Bill Maher: ‘This is bullshit and I want my money back’

[warrior1]

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/04/bill-maher-this-is-bullshit-and-i-want-my-money-back/

[Tunkamerica]

1. not always a bill maher fan, but that was pretty good.

[Motown_Johnny]

2. From the man who gave us "Vote Nader because Bush and Gore are the same"

and went on to call them Gush and Bore.


The guy is funny (at times) but using him as some type of political guru is far more laughable than any joke he has ever told, or ever will.

[TheKentuckian]

4. Hehe...I wish I had listened to him instead of sharing your reaction.

It is far closer to true than anyone will admit. Gore can tell you himself, rewatch the debates and see how many times he agreed with Chimp and look how the party ever increasingly attempts to adopt rightist rhetoric and policy positions.

Hell, there is a significant element that seems to think being less racist and bigoted but otherwise similar to the same as the opposition is the way to go despite decades of absolute wrongness on everything under the sun.

We have, in significant ways become a party of short term thinking calibrators that simply seek electoral victory. Winning is now the ends rather than a means to improve lives and lift those at the bottom and in the exchange have functionally lost our way and have, in large part, become what we opposed when many of us registered Democratic.

Crying the nuttiness of the TeaPubliKlans doesn't cover over that if I supported the current party's world view and policy orientation, I would have registered Republican.

No, the parties aren't "the same" but ours is in essence becoming what their's was a short time ago. Look at how Bush's positions on civil liberties has been adopted. Look at how poverty has been abandoned. Think about how environmentalist have become kooks. Consider the official line on education is an advancement of decades of Republican agenda. Check out our fucking cabinet and the positions and loyalties of almost everyone in such positions.

At this rate how long before "mainstream" Democrats resemble Paul Ryan on issues? We are already sitting at Poppy Bush and Bob Dole as we speak.

[vi5]

5. +1

I owe a lot of Nader voters who tried to get me to see how the two parties were increasingly becoming indistinguishable and how both were shifting the entire country rightward and in a more corporatist direction. I scoffed at them and yelled at them and told them they were fools. Many of them were much younger than I, and I used my age and my 20 years as a loyal, active Democrat to dismiss their complaints and to deny what it was they were trying to point out.

I was wrong. They were right. And here we stand in big shitpile where our country once stood.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. "We are already sitting at Poppy Bush and Bob Dole as we speak."

So, so true.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

8. Let's see. Gore wouldn't have gotten us into Iraq. How about some of those Bush

Supreme Court picks. The list is long and depressing. Gore made his global warming documentary. Not really something a Con would do. Saying Dems=Pukes is just ignorant. Yeah, there are some disappointing similarities, but there are still major differences. Giving your vote to a guaranteed loser in a close election is just irresponsible.

[TheKentuckian]

12. Notice I didn't say they were the same. Just the endgame. If I shared these broad objectives

and policies then I would have registered Republican. The TeaPubliKlans finding new lows does not change that.

Crack is not the same as meth but similar folk use em and the ends are pretty damn similar but they aren't the same. Neither is easily described as more responsible than the other.

Follow the policies to their logical conclusions and acknowledge the drift and it is no stretch of the imagination to see very similar destinations.

Sure, Gore probably would not have gone into Iraq but the same could be said of most any pre-Bush establishment Republican. Such a thing would have been a bridge too far for Reagan. Poppy would not have even considered such a thing without at least a broad coalition to whitewash it. Junior Bush went off the bipartisan foreign policy reservation and used 9/11 to spread a new wave of neocon fervor through the entire political spectrum. Now there are a fair number of Democrats that would at least consider such a misadventure and it has become a TeaPubliKlan Prime Directive because it works toward all of their aims-drowning the government, defunding the safety net, funneling resources to the wealthy, promotes the police state, foments religious like nationalism which makes the population more receptive to authoritarianism, feeds the military and increases its dominion, and encourages the police state at home. It is a natural fit that had been restrained by common sense but it is also a disease that spreads

The same isn't the point, substantially similar is enough.

[frylock]

10. if not for ralph nader, we'd never have a democratic president and senate enabling..

shit republican policy! damn you ralph nader!!1

[xchrom]

3. indeed. nt

[Shagbark Hickory]

7. K+R . Not really about charlie sheen, watch it.

[Poboy]

9. Recommend!

[Initech]

11. Bill Maher kicked ass last night.

He also had a really good interview with Sully Sullenberger where they talked extensively about union busting. Watch that part too.

[Lorien]

13. WAKE UP. Excellent!

:thumbsup: