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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 11:42 PM
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Putting the Record Straight on the Lamo-Manning Chat Logs (Wired responds)
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 12:06 AM by Ellipsis
* By Evan Hansen and Kevin Poulsen
* December 28, 2010 |
* 9:18 pm


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We have already published substantial excerpts from the logs, but critics continue to challenge us to reveal all, ostensibly to fact-check some statements that Lamo has made in the press summarizing portions of the logs from memory (his computer hard drive was confiscated, and he no longer has has a copy).

Our position has been and remains that the logs include sensitive personal information with no bearing on Wikileaks, and it would serve no purpose to publish them at this time.

That doesn’t mean we’ll never publish them, but before taking an irrevocable action that could harm an individual’s privacy, we have to weigh that person’s privacy interest against news value and relevance.




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/greenwald/







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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 11:56 PM
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1. Carrying water for someone?
Journalists are supposed to publish, not hand feed us what they think we can handle.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 11:57 PM
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2. Wired idiots.They maybe have the logs to support Lamo's accusations and nobody asked them to release
everything. Only those logs that might expose Lamo has a liar or a truth teller.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 11:58 PM
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3. I am not buying..
at all.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 11:59 PM
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4. Putting the record straight = trust us.
Honest. Lamo has made some damning claims but we are unwilling to release any evidence to support those claims.

Snort.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 02:57 AM
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12. Why did the editor butt in?
Maybe he just had to go on the record defending John Burn's sleazy hit piece on Assange.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 12:09 AM
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5. delete
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 12:36 AM by Hissyspit
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 12:12 AM
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6. I edited that out before you posted.
...what do you mean though?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 12:36 AM
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7. I have deleted.
I think I misread it.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 12:42 AM
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8. I respect your opinion. So I was freakin' a bit
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 12:44 AM by Ellipsis
I should have just said that no logs were posted, so no new data, just some retorts to Greenwald.


There is some other good background info though.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 02:49 AM
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9. I, too, am struck by the lack of substantive counter-argument in the article.
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 03:02 AM by Hissyspit
It seems to consist mostly of ad hominem attack on Greenwald.

No problem, btw, my opinion can be wrong!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 02:50 AM
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10. That was my take, too. nt
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 02:54 AM
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11. DADT is still in effect.
"Outing" people via private chat disclosures is disrespectful.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 07:55 AM
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13. do the documents that support or refute lamos contain
personal information of a sensitive nature?

why not just release those?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 12:26 PM
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14. Glenn has responded and all kinds of people weighing in.
Interesting discussion. All the links are in one place that I know of, Greg Mitchell's blog:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/157348/blogging-wikeleaks-news-views-wednesday-day-32

Glenn's responses here:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/29/wired_response_1/index.html
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