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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 06:48 PM
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Fuck it. Just legalize suicide and be done with it.
This "death by a thousand cuts" is just bullshit, if they want us dead then FINE, just fucking legalize suicide.

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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 06:49 PM
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1. ?
What, you can be arrested and thrown in jail for suicide currently?
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 06:51 PM
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2. Don't give them any ideas. Soon they'll fine the survivors
"Oh we're so sorry for your loss, but you do know that there's a fine against suicide and so we'll have to deduct the fine from the estate or next of kin. So sorry."

Fucking blood sucking vampire leeches.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 06:53 PM
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3. They are sadistic. suicide does not server the purpose.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 06:53 PM
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4. Didn't realize it was illegal now.
Who do you charge when a suicide is committed?
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 06:54 PM
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5. Well, murder is illegal.
And suicide is a form of murder. Though, I don't see how it would be enforced? :shrug:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:22 PM
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10. In most states, you get the death penalty for attempted suicide. In others, you get life.
Those are both jokes.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 09:27 PM
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20. attempting it is a felony. nt.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:24 AM
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24. Where?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 06:57 PM
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6. A "successful" suicide , has no legal consequences for the suicide-ee
"Assisted" suicide carries legal consequences for the "assister", which is why people do do assist, usually keep very quiet about it.

I think a friend of mine helped his wife, because I was there visiting when the doctor stopped by & reminded him of the dosage for her morphine, and went into very elaborate detail for him...and then gave him an extended hug..a glance passed between them that was impossible to miss..

She died peacefully a few days later with all her family at her side..
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:03 PM
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7. If you suicide and it can be proven you've suicided, does that mean your survivors don't get
your life insurance?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:47 PM
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13. some policies have a no-pay clause, but most will pay
Edited on Sun Apr-10-11 07:47 PM by SoCalDem
if the policy has been in effect for a prescribed amount of time (some are two years)
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:51 PM
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15. It depends on the state and the insurance policy
In many cases, life insurance is not paid to survivors if it was suicide. In other cases, it is paid if the policy was held for at least a certain length of time. It is almost never paid if a very short period time has passed since the policy was taken out or if it can be proven that the suicidal person took out the policy with that intention.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 09:33 PM
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22. some policies won't pay for suicide until a few years later than when it was bought.
Which makes sense.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:05 PM
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8. I remember reading a news story
in the past couple months about a woman who set herself on fire in her home.

They were going to charge her with arson.

(Never saw a follow-up as to whether or not she survived.)

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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:21 PM
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9. Actually, I think of this as a serious policy discussion. We also need assisted suicide
with no legal penalties.

I'm 66. I took care of two elderly parents with dementia. They had 100 percent healthcare coverage and no money problems. That is not going to be true of me. If Alzheimer's should get me in its grip, I want my husband and children to be able to facilitate my death without suffering legal or moral repercussions.

This will save them and society a lot of grief and money. No joke.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:51 PM
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14. Yes, it is serious. They want us dead, but they also want us to suffer
and to transfer as much of our wealth to them as possible during that time.

I'd rather deny them the pleasure.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:31 PM
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11. legalized suicide is soon to come - or it better be. just mnsho.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:41 PM
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12. Unrecced for the undue optimism. n/t
Edited on Sun Apr-10-11 07:42 PM by Scurrilous
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:59 PM
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16. Screw that! Give the suiciders a tax-credit.
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franzia99 Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:33 AM
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25. The GOP would only go for that for minorities, gays, and poor people.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 08:04 PM
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17. they'll only do it if they can harvest the bodies for organ companies
They'll write a law legalizing suicide when the body can be legally taken by the state, to be given to an organ donor company given a no-bid contract to harvest the organs.

Profit and Corporate greed have the seats in front. All we are is the veal in the stockades to Washington politicians.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 08:23 PM
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18. Yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see extermination at 50! Under Ryan's plan all
seniors will be murdered by no affordable healtcare. It's a bunch of unmitigated bullshit!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 09:27 PM
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19. A very good idea - why be so fatalistic and passive-aggressive about it?
Why should recognizing that people own their own lives take so much pain and dismissal to accept?
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 09:29 PM
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21. Check out Huey P. Newton's Revolutionary Suicide
They're going to kill you one way or the other. May as well die fighting them as opposed to giving into them.
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Marie Marie Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 09:45 PM
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23. Soylent Green
Suicide will be legalized as soon as someone figures out a way to nake a profit from it.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:42 AM
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26. people who are suicidal are not worrying about jail. How about..
... if you could sue to take one other person with you, if you were to commit suicide?


So, back in 2000 someone could have sued to take W. with him/her to the grave if he/she were willing to give up her life to do so.

And then we would have needed someone else for Cheney.



Just letting the people who have lost hope do away with themselves is self defeating. We need a way to worry the people who consider themselves above the law.
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