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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:40 PM Original message |
Why a strong Far Left is needed. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ah, yes.. but you see, they don't want to be "pushed". |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. No, they want us in the party as long as we keep quiet and |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Just our votes. Other than that, we are not wanted nor needed. |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Having the opportunity |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. And, sadly, that is pretty much what it is coming to. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
45. + 10000000000000000000 |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
59. Damned right, Harmony Blue!...n/t |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
111. That is exactly why we elected Obama. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. You mean the guy who made dozens of speeches that made him sound like FDR 2.0? |
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TMED (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #111 |
129. What far sadder is, realizing that Obama betrayed them... |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. +1 |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. +1 also |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. Everything good about this country came from the left. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
155. Agree -- |
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heppcatt (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
9. Some one pointed this out to me a few days ago... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. Why is the |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Carter lost because the far left didn't vote for him? |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Why yes, that's a fact. Didn't you know that amazing bit of history? |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
72. Indeed |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
98. quit trying to reach the Blue Dogs on this board. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
157. Rightwing Koch Bros. Funded the DLC -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
156. Carter lost because of "October Surprise" and being under constant attack from CIA and MIC -- |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Why should a president be guaranteed another nomination? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. " We should have to EARN his support." I see your point |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. If the president won't fight for polices that people support |
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Search4Justice (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. I agree 1000% . |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
109. No D gets my vote automatically anymore. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
118. You must be talking about unimportant things |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
99. You got the quotation wrong. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. That was my fault, I typed it wrong last night and edited when it was pointed out to me. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
100. Did not Obama campaign on closing Gitmo, |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #100 |
131. ending the two wars |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. Well he hasn't ended that one, has he? |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. I'm not disputing that he campaigned on getting out of Iraq |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Per FDR on public unions, I could be wrong but didn't |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. That's my understanding as well |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
159. If there is any "moving of the goal posts" it is by Obama -- not liberals -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
158. Exactly -- and so should the VP ... Biden has been calling for Israel to attack Iran!! |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Well why did people abandon those candidates? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Because |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
61. You put Reagan and Gore on the same page, so to speak? |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
73. No. |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
74. LOL! |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
81. You ought to be ashamed |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
38. The president isn't giving the left any reasons to support him. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
48. The tiny fraction of people that went to Nader did NOT cost Gore the election. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. +1 |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. It wasn't all Obama's fault |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
120. Obama never even wanted to attempt a Public Option, let alone to go further left on HCR |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #120 |
154. Maybe |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
115. Al Gore was not a garbage candidate |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. It was more a general statement... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
160. +1000% -- and any differences between the parties are FADING FAST ... !! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. And thanks to those like you, what you consider "reasonable" is literally killing people. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
104. "What Lunacy" indeed! |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
113. strawmen |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
191. Stop hiding behind a strawman |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
14. +100000 |
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BklynThirtyThree (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
15. Proud Socialist Democract here |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
16. People talk about the gains made by European Social-Democracies, but they forget one thing |
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heppcatt (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I think that is the point that some people miss. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
78. Agreed +100000 |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
116. The opposition only compromises |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
85. Which brings up the question... how do you get people to support a *minority* need/goal |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. If you mean the Far Left as in Socialists/Communists. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. If you actually want to reach people and have them involved, yes, that reaching out is |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #85 |
161. Can only trust that poverty and homelessness is in our hearts -- Dem Party dropped these issues--!! |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
140. Social Security and Civil Rights Legislation passed for the same reasons |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. To me, what's needed is and "out and proud" far left. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It has been hiding itself for years now. |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Tell me about it. I just saw the documentary on Truman today, and I have to rant. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
112. You're not boring at all. That is an excellent post. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
163. Truman was a liberal by standards today -- but he was moving things to the right .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
164. Absolutely true -- and insanely so !!! |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Left Out - eom |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
46. When the "Left" comes out strongly for poor people, THEN you will see it OUT and PROUD! |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
21. Well as a 50 something, who way back when was considered |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Doesn't that prove my point though? |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Take it as you will, but i don't view the teabaggers as any |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
82. That's the whole ball of wax right there. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
190. Yes, years ago I was considered by today's standards a |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. If they would consistently vote for (D)s instead of always bailing for 3rd |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. A lot of the Left does support Democrats. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Ahh, the old if you guys will just tolerate whatever and dutifully donate, canvas, phone bank, and |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. To be honest there isn't enough difference |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
67. Man! That 3rd paragraph is ON THE MONEY......... |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. 81% say 'Raise taxes on Millionaires' - WSJ/NBC News poll |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. a 50% hike |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. All the Bush tax cuts need to go. Any working class relief would have to come from increases up the |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. K&R |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
27. I'd even settle for a strong center left .... |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
35. since the far left |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Well you cleaned us out good in the 1920's and 1950's - |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
126. Radicals can't organize |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #126 |
133. Wait, radicals can't organize? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #133 |
144. Not to mention the French Revolution ... |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #133 |
168. We need 51% |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #126 |
142. Radicals can't organize |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:28 AM Response to Reply #126 |
182. Mingia, that's dumb |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
39. The "Center Right" seems to be sliding farther right at a stunningly rapid pace. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
41. Reagan made being "liberal" a really dirty word. I remember in the 80's |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
167. Right ... while behind the scenes his campaign was commiting TREASON .... |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
44. Cold war liberals helped the right eliminate the left wing |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
147. Yes they did. I actually remember this happening........ |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #147 |
152. I've been reading about it. It's very eye-opening. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #152 |
162. Hey starry, I've got a take on EVERYTHING....... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #162 |
170. Thank you -- and I think you've explained here the Q I was asking above .... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #162 |
173. "New Left." I've heard the term, but honestly I havent't studied it very much |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #173 |
178. The New Left in 60s terminology was us kids.......... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #147 |
169. I consider myself a liberal -- and interested in what you are saying -- |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. I tried to explain it a little further in #162.......... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #172 |
181. Well, I've found your thoughts helpful -- thank you -- |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #181 |
188. You're welcome. That's one thing I REALLY like about DU......... |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
47. if there were a strong left |
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ConservativeDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
49. I agree, however.... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. On being "realistic" - |
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ConservativeDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Again, this is a matter of perception... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. No - it's a matter of fact and being able to read |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. And may I add Bank of America made $4+ BILLION dollars |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
87. Republicans say corps are buried by taxation |
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ConservativeDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Again, people, I'm not necessarily disagreeing on the direction... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
145. LOL @ your incrementalism - |
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ConservativeDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #145 |
179. Actually, I don't have to "come up with something" at all |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #179 |
186. How dare you - |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #179 |
187. I'm sure a lot of the most frustated people are those who fought harders for Obama. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
127. Nearly universal health care is not a crumb |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
171. +1000% -- Hartmann talked about "government by gangsters" today ... !!! Agree!! |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
70. "tax cutting has been very popular over the past...... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Yup, and I see Silly Sarah leading the charge on that - |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. That's a scary thought, but.......... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I'm not sure they could do it. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #83 |
102. The capitalists are going to vote for whichever party promises the least taxes - |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Also true. I'm just not sure how they could pull this off.......... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #105 |
123. Maybe so - |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #123 |
149. Yeah I know. That's why I go back to that part of ...... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. Well, how did Debbs and Norman Thomas do it? |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #153 |
166. They did it by getting involved in the unions mostly.......... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
175. Agree -- but .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
174. And sometimes being realistic leads to being weak and cowardly .... |
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goodnews (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. K&R. nt |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. Oh there aren't enough of us to matter anyway. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
55. It's the fault of wacko "New Leftism" and postmodernism, not "regular Democrats." |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
56. I have been a Socialist since 1988 |
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goobergoober01 (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
57. i love the FAR LEFT.... but at election time, how about JUMP ABOARD and----- |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. A lot of the left did jump aboard last election and elected Obama. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. How do you think Obama was elected? |
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BulletproofLandshark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. "How about JUMP ABOARD" |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
60. Hear, hear! |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
62. Great post white_wolf, K&R |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
63. i`m a socialist and proud of it... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
86. You are right. Obama is actually to the right of Nixon. |
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miscsoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #86 |
185. wayyyyy to the right |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #185 |
189. And I remember celebrating when Nixon left. O, how far we have sunk! |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
69. I agree but that was during a depression |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
71. there's a big difference between pushing the party left, and sayin "obama's a gop mole and the dems |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #71 |
110. Thank you! |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
77. Checks and balances |
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M_A (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
89. I used to call myself a democratic socialist |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. What country are you in? |
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M_A (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. probably in the same one as you. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. You know I guess I had to re-read your post a couple hours later for the penny to drop. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
137. I'm with you. The Dems lost my 2012 vote months ago. n/t |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
90. Great but there's no way to get them elected without money and money comes from rich ppl and corps. |
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fredamae (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
92. Does anybody else remember |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
95. The "far" left isn't far. It is the true left. The right has |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
97. If being an FDR democrat means that I'm a socialist... |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. I'm o.k. with that. |
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mcollins (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
101. K&R! |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
106. We need a Far Left to remind people that basic social needs aren't "A radical leftwing agenda." |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
117. K&R |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
121. Agreed |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
122. couldn't agree more |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
124. Fucking a! n/t |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
125. k & r n/t |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
128. I am sick of this "left in form, right in essence" crappola we see daily. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
130. Plenty came out of Democrats that wasn't "corporatist." |
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Weird Liberal Head (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
134. Very true. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
136. I'm not sure that thesis would stand |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
138. It may be the only way to make them listen. It's how the Tea Party got it's power, by breaking up |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
141. I agree |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. Hasn't Labour gone the way of the Democratic Party here? |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:48 AM Response to Reply #146 |
184. sort of |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
148. I agree with you desire, but wonder how the left can "push" Pres Obama? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. Honestly, I'm not totally sure. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #148 |
176. You need leverage over elected officials -- only corporations have that ... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. Thom always speaks truth to power. |
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bongo_x (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
150. I keep moving left…. |
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Pryderi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
165. have you read Chris Hedges, "Death of the Liberal Class"? |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
180. The fascism I saw at DU earlier today really freaked me out. |
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vroomvroom (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
183. K&R |
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