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Lochloosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:01 AM Original message |
This picture is just wrong on so many levels. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. Liberte for me, not for thee. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Veiling women is not liberty, it's the opposite |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. You know, at some point, that is her choice and not yours. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. It's not merely a choice |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. In some countries it is not. However, in France it was until |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
51. I would say it's more likely it's her father or husband's choice for her. nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
139. And I would say that you don't know that. One of my friends |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. BRAVO |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
61. Thank you. |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. She gets to choose if she wants to wear it or not |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Nope. Women do not have the freedom to wear whatever they want, or not. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. No one insists that men wear a burka. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
103. Not just the right of women, the right for anyone to wear whatever they please. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
102. I think people should be allowed to walk around naked. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Now THAT is a statement I can agree with 110%. LOL! nt |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
134. Exactly. nt |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
45. France is a free country, as are those who live there. |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Yeah, she looks really free... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I know, right? Really doing that, "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite" thingie justice, eh? |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Good thing you used French there. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
84. But left out the circunflex. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
101. Don't most of us demand others to subjugate our freedom? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
135. Many women want to wear these veils |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #135 |
143. Do you have a link that says that most of those women want to wear the burqa? |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. What bothers me about these people who |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I think women should be able to wear whatever they want no matter where they live. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
94. So can I wear a burqua? How about taking the license plates off my car |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #94 |
104. Has Dab ever been wrong? I think you should do what Dab tells you to do. nt |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
111. And so western women in Saudi Arabia |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. What do you have to say to Amish, Mennonite, or Mormon women here who |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Amish, Mormon, Mennonite, and Islamic women covering their hair |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
107. "And we already have laws that tell women what they can and cannot wear in public." |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. You at least are consistent. nt |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
114. There is a large difference between |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Most secular laws only forbid covering ones face. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Excellent points. That's always been my complaint of visitors to another culture. |
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whattheidonot (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
62. correct |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
128. You took the words out of my mouth. nt |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. so will grown men in afghanistan pillage and murder innocents in protest? nt |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Yep, and france will be to blame (like a scantily dressed woman is responsible for her rape) |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. Bet halloween in france is no fun...no masks/etc now |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. No one under 18 yrs old is allowed to wear masks on Halloween |
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Lochloosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
9. I see the Unrecs are hard at it |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
10. Wonder if she'd see where she was going better without that veil on...? |
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Lochloosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. That is assuming that she is not in her county of birth. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Thank you; I was about to post the same thing. nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
92. That is irrelevant actually |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
16. Here's a deal |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
38. you do realize that the French law bans a multitude of face coverings |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
86. so you can't cover your face from the cold in the winter in france now? interesting. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
18. There are laws in every western country dictating what women may or may not wear in public |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. How can you possibly say that wearing a ski mask in a bank or going topless in court is the same as |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. It's regulating what can and cannot be worn in public. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
47. Now it's not, it's regulating what you can/nt be worn in private. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Neither the courtroom nor (presumably) the school are private property |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #49 |
69. It doesn't matter. If you don't want to abide by the dresscode, you don't have to go inside. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
125. Of course it matters |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #47 |
67. Schools and courts are public property and thus are the definition of public |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Being in a publicly owned building isn't the same as being "out in public" |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. I believe the courts would disagree with you. Public buildings are designated |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #75 |
95. If the courts can decide that then they can also decide what people wear. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #95 |
108. The courts don't really have authority. All they really have is the real threat of violence. nt |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
63. Can the woman wear a burka in the bank? n/t |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. It's up to the bank. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
88. Does the bank get to decide on the ski mask? n/t |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I think you're comparing apples to oranges |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Nope, it's not. We as a society create the norms upon which we allow some things |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
50. "we can't walk around topless in public" Men can |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Not me |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
126. Breasts are associated with reproduction? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #126 |
145. Typically the little critters like to eat |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
73. Well now you're on to something with that. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
85. In New York state, they can. Don't know about other states. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
127. Really? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #127 |
147. Can't do it right now - Court of Appeals ruling in 1995..? |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #127 |
150. Yes they can, in limited circumstances. But public lewdness laws still exist in NY |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
56. Um, those same laws apply to men as well |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Sorry I didn't stipulate exact regs. Women can't stand and watch a parade topless |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
24. It's a good thing. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
65. +1 |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
74. Oh. So they're allowed to practice their faith but not practice their customs. I see. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Yes. some customs are illegal that have religious overtones like FGM. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
96. Lots of anti muslim sentiment in that country. Got nothing to do with protecting the secular culture |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. No France does not want to ban minarets. WTF?? nt |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Sorry. Switzerland. But Sarcozy supports the ban |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Wrong--Switzerland DID ban minarets, not France. nt |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. My point is there is a lot of anti-muslim sentiment in that region. Sarcozy seems to be playing into |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
80. wow. Sorry, so if one wants to cover their face from the cold with a scarf and a pulled down hat.. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #80 |
159. This debate isn't over a scarf protecting cheeks. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
112. Don't visit Montana in the winter. You will have a heart attack from fear of all the masked people. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:13 AM Response to Reply #112 |
158. I live in a cold place as well. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. I don't remove my face covering in stores, unless I am going to be spending more than 10 minutes in |
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Chris_Texas (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
28. Religion, by definition, is the oposite of freedom |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
64. ???? |
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MatthewStLouis (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
29. This kind of law surprises me for France. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. France's history with religious costuming is far different than ours. |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
68. Amen |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
78. Meh, I have spent time there, and I still think it is rooted in racism in this case. |
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MatthewStLouis (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
151. Thanks. Very interesting. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. They have banned all religious gear in schools, from headscarves to |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
31. What a paradox for 1st Amendment absolutists who support both the burning of the Qur'an & this law |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. It is not religion - it's culture. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I know that. It's culturally how they like to exercise their religion. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Cultural expression can be controlled by laws. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Whatever. Is the wearing of the Burqa protected under the 1st Amendment or not? |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. It's not religious. And yes, it is worn in public in the US legally |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. In many states it is not. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Last time I looked state laws cannot supersede the American constitution. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
156. LOL. |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #42 |
70. No |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
87. That's not what I asked. |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Ask Rock Bama |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #87 |
116. I like to think so. nt |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
162. Yes. But things can be denied to you. For example, a driver's license. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
90. The constitution covers EVERYONE in the United States--including visitors. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
115. "It is inherently disturbing to westerners to not see the face of the person they are dealing with." |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:37 AM Response to Reply #115 |
157. OFFS |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. I have never worked retail, so I won't speak for retail workers, but I do talk to people with their |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. That's the US. The OP is about France. Very different. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. lol. except the 1st amendment isn't French law. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
36. "Two bits, folks! Step right up! SEE the savage unmasked! RELISH in her naked shame!" |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
40. France should be ashamed. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
41. Very unsettling...fors those who approve of this, shame... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
117. Exactly. Education is the best way to handle this. nt |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
43. It's Sarkozy trolling for far-right votes using the "scary" Muslim immigrants as his foil. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
76. ^ Somebody who sees the bigger picture ^ n/t |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #43 |
79. Yep. absolutely. sarko sickens me. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
91. Arizona politics writ larger--you are spot-on. nt |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
46. The irony is that if she'd been half naked with prostitute high heels, everyone here would approve. |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
129. Unless burquas and nun costumes are worn commando |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
55. While I do detest what the veil stands for |
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howard112211 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
59. But it's for her own good, right? Seems similar to making it a crime to be beaten up by the husband |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
93. +1. nt |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
119. I once made an OP which said pretty much the same thing. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
81. Sarko is an idiot..pandering to the frightened far right and racists. disgusting. |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
82. this is the only life these women know |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
105. Sure enough. Now tell us how a ban improves her situation. Or that this is even the law's intent. |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. the ban does not in any way improve her situation |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. I don't believe anyone knows how it will impact their lives. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. That's pretty much how I see it, having lived in Europe and seen the racism first-hand. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
123. Some religions, like Wicca and Thelema, are very pro-women. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
83. Incidentally, there are several U.S. states and cities that have laws against masks/hoods in public |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
120. I object to most all clothing laws. |
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LadyHawkAZ (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
118. Would you let a man in a ski mask into your workplace? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Of course I would allow a man in a ski mask into my workplace. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #121 |
132. Would you let people in Klan hoods into your workplace? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
138. The KKK would not be welcome regardless of how they were dressed. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. But their KKK costume is their outward expression of their philosophy |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #140 |
154. I consider their actions to be their outward expression of their philosophy. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. Yes, because I don't live in fear. nt |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #130 |
136. How about KKK hoods? I'll tell you this AA woman would be intimidated if I had to work w/ that. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
124. She looks so free! She must be so happy with her saviors. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
131. She'd probably not stumbled if she could see better. Good thing those guys caught her so she didn't |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
133. unsettling picture |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
137. protesters like to be provocative..it fuels their cause..no matter the cause. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
141. No country is perfect. Certainly not the US, or France. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
144. You will be free or we'll FORCE you to be free, dammit |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #144 |
152. Which of course, western societies have done. Like with FGM and suttee and other |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
146. It looks like they're dragging her out of the 16th century. nt |
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Zax2me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Kinda, right?! |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
148. I like it. |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
155. Religious and Government oppression both suck, HARD. |
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