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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:32 AM Original message |
Only 8,000 enroll in health plan for preexisting conditions |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. probably the number of people who could afford it |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. I looked into it. At my age it would be $1000.00 per month |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Better gear up for the fight to defend Medicare, then n/t |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Are you sure? The highest premium is $704 per month from what I could find. |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Yes, I probably looked at the wrong table. Still can't afford $704.00 |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I understand, it's not a big difference. Just wanted to make sure you had the right information, |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'd totally apply if I could afford it. |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Maybe I'm not following you. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. The Oregon program has maximums, just not for everything, and not everything counts towards |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. The pools got exempted from the preventative care requirement? |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Read the details for yourself: |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Well, so the $0 you pay for the checkup and immunizations won't count... |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
5. That six month waiting period is so cruel - |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. It's the same rationale as the once-a-year open season |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. It sucks because it is embedded in a for-profit system |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Nope. The Federal PCIP is government-run |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. as long as insurers are involved in any of our medical care |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. You're stating that because other countries have a universal social insurance system |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. The connections between for-profit health "insurance" and the cost of care is supported by |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 06:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
59. I don't think the entire industry is as "clean" as you do. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
44. Keep the insurance company investors afloat, you mean. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Even Medicare has an open season policy, for the same reason |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
6. How many of the "eligible" are now unemployed? or cut back to minimum hours? |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. I pay over $600 per month for my health insurance, which is PA state supported, and there is no way |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
8. Again, the biggest flaw with this "reform" |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
9. My wife and I would have to pay 3,600 a month for it. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. My husband and I would be looking at $3,000 a month. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. But insurance is a large part of the problem. |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. +1 |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
28. The premiums in Oregon range from $221 to $714 per month |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. The $221 figure is for 18-19 year olds at the highest deductible. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. That's cheaper than my good non-profit group plan |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Uh huh. And that is comparable because? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Right, but the money still has to come from somewhere (nt) |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Right, I was replying to boppers #9 who said it would cost $3600/month for the two of them. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Well, it was a slightly different point. |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 07:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. OK, thanks. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
10. Thisis the very antitheis of what a liberal would put in place. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. I don't believe there is a difference. |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #46 |
61. A lot of self identified liberals... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. Insurance companies aren't making money on Federal PCIP |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. This is NOT the cost of care. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. So, it is the cost of care |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Right on brother |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. And that level of debt is increasingly difficult for a GP to work out from under |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
12. What a fucking nightmare. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
13. I wanted to enroll in it, but our state opted to use the existing state program |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
14. If it wasn't for my VA coverage |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
35. Medicare for All! |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
36. We're eligible. We can't afford it. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Thanks. It boggles my mind that these articles failed to mention |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. The parties that wrote and were interviewed for the article |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
37. What do these plans cost? Not one news article has explained if pple can even afford them. |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. I saw a piece on TV last night, $600.00 a month was mentioned |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
48. I remember |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. A lot of us think a public option wouldn't be any cheaper (nt) |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It seems to work well |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. They have healthier, richer populations to start with and their doctors make less |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I'm quite cognizant |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. their job is to keep DUers off the streets and within the "reform within the party" frame |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
56. 100% unaffordable for me in NC. The low numbers don't surprise me at all. |
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