For those of you that don’t understand chess, here’s Pres Obama’s strategy.

[rhett o rick]

His vitriol towards the left is part of the plan. It makes him more appealing to those on the right of center. As does his pro-Clinton (DLC) leanings (he even appointed a Clinton SoS). His assoc with Bush favorites is only a ploy to fool those on the right to think he is one of them. Treating Geitner, Bernanke, Summers, Immelt, etc. as friends is only subterfuge.

The more Pres Obama moves to the right the more he squeezes out the possibility of a moderate Republican (Jeb Fucking Bush) from entering the race. This leaves the hapless Republicans with the likes of Palin, Trump and the other wackadoddles assuring Pres Obama the win in 2012.

After Pres Obama wins reelection he will immediately turn progressive. End the Bush tax cuts, single payer health care, close Gitmo, end the stupid corporate wars, dump the Bush Patriot Act and MCA, end domestic spying, etc. I am sure of it. Really. And don’t tell me otherwise.

[Brickbat]

1. Heh.

[WinkyDink]

2. Yeah, he's a regulah Bobby Fischer.

[earthside]

13. Zing! n/t

[leftstreet]

3. LOL

[Wilms]

4. Are you saying he has to destroy the village in order to save it?

:shrug:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

5. at this point, he is running unopposed.

[rhett o rick]

10. Good one. nm

[rhett o rick]

11. Or if Sarah Palin had half a brain, he'd be running against a half-wit. nm

[undeterred]

6. I understand Footsie with the GOP.

That's his game.

[Poll_Blind]

7. Could be. I think it's more likely he continues fucking us then writes an over-priced memoir....

...claiming to deeply regret having done everything he did, cursing the fact that he couldn't get just one more (third) term to make everything right.

PB

[OmahaBlueDog]

8. I'll agree with this - only a President not facing re-election can end the Bush tax cuts

The real question becomes "what does he end up with for a Congress." Just as there was a voter backlash against the combined '06/'08 gains, political theory suggests that many of the first term baggers won't see a second term.

[Poboy]

62. I won't agree. Ending the Bush tax cut had over 60% support.

Not buying the excuse.

[hedgehog]

9. It works if the Republican wackadoodles dominate the down ticket races

and Progressive Democrats get elected.

[Blaukraut]

12. And then we woke up n/t

[markpkessinger]

14. Dream on n/t

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[rhett o rick]

18. I told you not to try to destroy my dream, but no your just had to go and do it. nm

[rhett o rick]

16. LOL, the op was up to one rec, but someone doesnt like it. nm

[polichick]

17. I wish this wasn't quite so funny. Well done.

[The Second Stone]

19. That's the kind of fantasy I can embrace with open arms!

Obama is a secret liberal. And then I wake up, and he's just a more palatable version of Bush who has managed to appoint two liberals to the Supreme Court. And then I get to fantasizing again that this was a secret plan and he intended to do it, and then the train stops and I wake up again. In any event, this is my stop.

[EOTE]

20. You had me up until your last paragraph.

Surely he'll be asked about his intentions regarding ending the Bush tax cuts during his campaign. Any answer he provides other than the stock "Raising taxes on ANY income group in a time of recession is off the table." will result in immediate thrashing by the right.

If, perchance, he does happen to have the guts to end the Bush tax cuts (as should have been done a long while ago), I truly don't see him making much more of a progressive turn. He's had the chance to appeal to his progressive base so many times before, even while costing him nothing politically, and he's turned up his nose every time. Obama ran as a center-left candidate, he's governed as a center-right President and he's been Wall St.'s best friend from the beginning. If he made a grand departure from all of that, I'd truly be shocked.

[rhett o rick]

25. It's a dream, help me out. It's all we have at the moment. nm

[Warren Stupidity]

21. 9th dimensional powder drying while dancing with tutus!

I am in awe of the brilliant strategy here.

[IDemo]

22. And each supporter will be emailed a UPS tracking number

for a pony.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

23. There's a big hole in your theory

"His assoc with Bush favorites is only a ploy to fool those on the right to think he is one of them. Treating Geitner, Bernanke, Summers, Immelt, etc. as friends is only subterfuge."

Even if he convinces the right that he is "one of them", they're still not going to vote for him. He's brown and Muslim and a non-native and probably the anti-christ.

So:
1. Obama doesn't get the right wing vote.
2. Many Progressives have jumped ship and are either abstaining or voting for someone else.
3. A lot moderates are flaky and will jump on whatever bandwagon is shiniest - Obama can't count on them.
4. Fiscal conservatives hate Obama because of all the bail out money.
5. Many blue collar workers are pissed at Obama because of his apparent lack of support for worker's rights.
6. Mainstream Dems are on board, but what percentage of the population is mainstream Dem, and how excited are they to support Obama in 2012?
7. A lot of the young voters who carried Obama in 2008 have lost interest in politics after getting fucked the last 3 years. That energy will be sorely missed.

It doesn't seem like a winning combination, but if the R's throw up some candidate like Palin then we have a good chance of having Obama for 4 more years. And that's 1000 X preferable to whichever conservative dickhead might get elected.

[rhett o rick]

24. LOL. So who can pick up more votes? Trump, Palin, Huckleberry? Who? nm

[EvolveOrConvolve]

27. I think if the pukes end up with someone like Romney as the nominee, we're in trouble

Even though the southern voting bloc hates Mormons, I think they hate African Americans more. Plus, Romney would pull in a lot of moderates, and we could be in trouble, especially if he picks a common sense moderate Republican as a running mate.

[rhett o rick]

28. Pres Obama is very strong with the moderates and I dont think Romney can steal them away.

I think that even Jeb Fuckin Bush couldnt take the moderates away from Pres Obama. Of course he wont get the wackadoddle vote but that is a small number.

[coalition_unwilling]

32. Tee hee hee. Forcing a white Southern Baptist to choose between

voting for a Mormon or voting against a black. Now there's a Hobson's Choice, if ever there were one :)

I think, if Romeny's Mormonism doesn't torpedo his chances, the story about him strapping his dog to the roof of his station wagon for the 12-hour car trip during the family vacation so many years ago should do it. Supposedly, the Romney's didn't have enough room in the car for kids and dog, so they strapped the pet carrier to the roof of the car for the 12-hour car trip. I always took this story as a sure sign that Romney is certifiably insane and cruel.

On edit: Whew, I'm having flashes of deja vu, as I remember Bill Frist and his dissection of cats taken from rescue facilities during his med school days. May be a theme emerging: Republican psychopaths in the making and how the signs were there all along in their treatment of pets :)

[demwing]

41. What I'm worried about is someone like Marco Rubio

The Republicans are likely to try to swing the Hispanic vote, but they really can't - they fail on the issues.

However, Rubio could help push Fla back in the Red, and maybe Nevada and New Mexico as well. We just cannot afford to lose those states.

[DCKit]

43. A whisper campaign of Rubio opening the borders to Hispanic immigration...

or of normalizing relations with Cuba (or having been born in Cuba) would bury his chances.

But let's not, just yet. Wait until he has the nomination. Then we can spend the rest of the cycle working for all our other candidates.

[GreenArrow]

33. How 'bout Jesse Ventura?

Or any other populist oriented candidate that could draw from left and right. A third party makes things potentially a lot more interesting.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

68. Jesse Ventura is a kook

That turns me off to him completely.

Unfortunately in the U.S., conspiracy mongers like Ventura draw well.

[Turbineguy]

26. I hope you are right.

Sounds like a fairly cunning plan. It does seem like he's still doing the Rope-a-dope trick with the repubs

[Canuckistanian]

29. Why, it's so simple, it JUST MIGHT WORK

And later on, let's put on a show to celebrate!

[Zanzoobar]

30. That's a nice sturdy rope ya got there.

Aughtta work just fine.

[Holly_Hobby]

31. As much as I would like to buy your theory...

Geitner's family goes way back with Obama's mother:

Geithner's paternal grandfather, Paul Herman Geithner (1902–1972), emigrated with his parents from the German town of Zeulenroda to Philadelphia in 1908.<9> His father, Peter F. Geithner, was the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York in the 1990s. During the early 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by Ann Dunham Soetoro, President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once.<10>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Geitner

[upi402]

34. lol -'Otherwise'

I'm tellin' ya!
:rofl: :fistbump: :pals:

[rhett o rick]

42. It's worth a shot. nm

[upi402]

44. Just messin'

cheers

[rhett o rick]

58. Cheers back. nm

[sendero]

35. Based on..

.. nothing but delusion. We've heard this BULLSHIT since 2009. Give it a rest. Your monarch does not give a SHIT about you.

[rhett o rick]

37. If you have something better than delusion, please pass the pipe. nm

[Hell Hath No Fury]

36. You so funny. :D

:applause: ;)

[rhett o rick]

39. LOL, yeah but cant get a rec to save my soul. I think I hold the record of most threads w/o a rec.

[alfredo]

38. Thing is, he's always been a centrist. We just wanted him

to be a progressive. What he does in a second term has quite a bit to do with the configuration of congress.

[KoKo]

40. LOL's.. It's an interesting post, though. Really, I'm not snarking you...

It truly is what many believe. I might have had hope of that, too...if I was younger and more innocent.

[rhett o rick]

49. The tactic of moving to the right and squeezing out any hope for a Republican moderate is a good one

Now whether he will become more progressive, I doubt it. We on the left have no choice. If a wackadoodle from the right wins, they could do some series damage to the SCOTUS.

[somone]

45. One can always re-re-re-re-hope

[Solomon]

46. "His vitriol towards the left"!!!?

I like satire, but lost me right there. Vitriol?

Okay. Right.

[mod mom]

47. Can you explain the part how vitriol towards the left helps GOTV?

Because not only am I missing something there but I'm also not volunteering for his campaign. I'll wait for a good progressive down ticket that needs my help.

[rhett o rick]

48. It appears to me that Pres Obama not only has decided he doesnt need you or GOTV, he has thrown you

under the bus to impress those on the right of center that he is not a "lefty". The schtuff about his only doing this as a tactic to win so he can, as a lame duck president, show his true progressive colors (no pun intended) is only my dream. And a far fetched dream at that. I personally am more apt to believe that our corporate overlords are pulling his strings for one reason or the other.

We on the left have to make a decision and soon whether we are going to plug our noses and support him, or risk damaging him with a primary challenge and letting a wackadoodle win the election. If we are going to challenge him, we need to get started. I would like to hear your take on this.

[Chris_Texas]

50. Yes.. the classic "concede defeat before the game" strategy

[rhett o rick]

52. Please elaborate on your point. I am not conceding defeat. nm

[inna]

51. K&R; like your dry sense of humor

[WillyT]

53. LOL !!! - BRAVO !!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

:yourock:

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[rhett o rick]

54. Thanks Willy. But still, not one single rec. lol not that i really care. I am not still

in high school.

[Zorra]

55. I see. A strategy where you sacrifice your Queen first,

then your Knights, then your rooks, but you keep one or two Pawns and one Bishop.

Then you sacrifice the remaining Bishop.

You bluff them into thinking you don't even really know how to play chess.

And then, blammo! Ya shock checkmate em' with the deadly Hoover Maneuver!

yeh...that'll work!

bloody ingenious it is.

[WillyT]

57. Oh I Recced It... It's Just, Well... You Know

PPT

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[Zorra]

64. PPT?!?

Te entiende este acronimo solamente en la idioma de la cultura de Venezuela...

Pero en Ingles, que es esto?
:hi:

[rhett o rick]

65. Yeah I know. Just like in high school. Please dont make me go back. nm

[Tesha]

56. > After Pres Obama wins reelection he will immediately turn progressive.

Yeah, and I'll bet he "has a secret plan to end
the war(s)" too.

Obama will *NEVER* turn Progressive and he will
*NEVER* be effective. He will *NEVER* have an
opportunity as good as the one *HE COMPLETELY
WASTED* in 2009-2010.

Tesha

[Warren DeMontague]

59. That's gonna be AWESOME!

:thumbsup:

[ddeclue]

60. OMG .. that's ridiculous.,like the SNL skit where Reagan was a superhuman mastermind

and not a doddering old fool...

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4174/saturday-night-live-president-reagan-mastermind

[Rex]

61. You had me going until you proclaimed Jeb Bush to be a moderate repuke.

nt.

[rhett o rick]

63. When compared to the other Republican wackadoodles, he certainly would come across

as a moderate. It's not what you think that matters. It's what the right of center of American voters think. Today I think they would choose Pres Obama over Jeb Bush.

[TBF]

66. Sure, just like last time. He's nothing if not consistent. nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

67. Blind faith was a good band. On the other hand, It's a stupid way to live. nt