81% of Americans say tax the rich

[malaise]

Go Rachel!!
Obama tax the rich or face the poor in the street!!

[El Supremo]

1. Make them pay for the wars!

Then we'll finally see peace.

[FourScore]

16. Make them pay for what they are primarily profitting on -- the wars! n/t

[JackRiddler]

25. You mean, end the wars and make them pay for the resulting debt.

[maxsolomon]

2. Are they rich?

Then what they think matters naught.

[JackRiddler]

26. Until it does. Inevitably, it will, as it always has before.

[highplainsdem]

3. K&R. I can hardly believe the Dems haven't said more about that poll:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x544604

[proud patriot]

4. Yee Haww !

:bounce:

[msongs]

5. unfortunately the other 19% include Obama and congress lol nt

[bullwinkle428]

7. SAD. BUT. TRUE.

[baldguy]

6. The GOP doesn't want Reaganomics - they want Hoovernomics!

What does the GOP call tens of millions unemployed, entire industries moved offshore, millions of people swindled by banks & pushed out of their homes, endemic corporate corruption & massive unabashed political hypocrisy in their own party?

A good start.

[JackRiddler]

27. Actually, Hoover engaged in a variety of schemes like the bailouts and quantitative easing.

It failed. The economy started recovering with a level of direct government investment into the economy far above the ARRA stimulus, in relative terms. Not schemes to save the banks and avoid direct investment and let the market continue failing.

This prompted Harper's more than a year ago to run a cover story titled, "Barack Hoover Obama."

It's kind of a joke when the best thing you can say is, "better than the Republicans." Let's keep in mind that the economic policies of deregulation, corporate globalization and capitulation to market doctrine at all times have been bipartisan.

[upi402]

8. +1,000! recommended! Here's a link to her saying that before:

This is a good one if you haven't seen it yet...
http://www.leftunderground.com/threads/136-How-Can-We-Move-America-Left?p=406#post406
scroll down to post #4

[malaise]

11. Thanks

81% is a vast majority

[upi402]

14. 81%... "Are you going to just let this one hang over the plate?" -Rachel

I say give that woman the damn bat! Dems ain't usin' it.

[malaise]

17. Indeed

I mean when are Dems going to use the gift staring them in the face

[Amonester]

30. When they won't be waiting for the rich to send them big money...

which might be never.

[greymattermom]

9. a million

Raise taxes 5% on incomes over a million a year. That's a number everyone would agree is rich, and hard to argue against. Forget the 250K for now and go for the really big guys.

[MannyGoldstein]

10. That's not a Responsible Adult thing to do

I think it's time to have a Serious Conversation with the 81% of Unrealistic Americans who don't want to Win The Future.

[Booster]

12. And the rest are in Wash DC with all the power. They really don't

care what Americans want.

[Kablooie]

13. Yes, but 1% says don't do it. And they are rich so they win. So there!

[malaise]

15. Yah think

:rofl:

[Beaverhausen]

18. They're so worried about their "grandchildren inheriting our debt"

well, then pay your fair share now!!!

[phiddle]

19. 90% of the politicians say don't

[spanone]

20. and still the 'elected ones' give and give and give to the rich and corporations

what will it take?

[pinkkillersheep]

21. What is "rich"?

It's very subjective. To me, "rich" would be home income of above $125,000. To others, it could be $250,000. Some 90% of the country call themselves "middle class", so how many of the people who answered "Tax the rich" would change their tune if they found out it included them?

For what it's worth, I believe my tax rate should be higher.

[JackRiddler]

28. The incomes you're describing as rich are peanuts.

There is a level that's simply incomprehensible to the 90 percent.

Top 1 percent own most of the assets, if you subtract housing. They've been the beneficiaries of the last 30 years' policy. They are the ones who should be hit hard -- with a wealth charge, for starters.

To get a grasp on what the income inequality is like, see the l-curve.



http://www.lcurve.org/

[ladjf]

22. What percent of Americans would it take to overwhelm the stealing

,greedy rich bastards?

[PufPuf23]

23. Duh, F'king obvious to any sane mind kr nt

[Duer 157099]

24. One dollar, one vote

Isn't that how it works nowadays?

[Cresent City Kid]

29. We need to dispense with this "Job Creator" bullshit

The Forbes 400 creates maybe 1200, 400 pool boys, 400 nannies, and 400 chaufeurs? The rest would be created without them, the work would get done, and the benefits would be more evenly distributed. When they don't show up to work, the work gets done, when we don't show up, they don't get dick.

No human is 473 times as worthy as an average worker in his company. That's the latest CEO to average worker stat I have, it may be higher now. How did we let them diffuse the outrage after the crash of '08? Two years later we're defunding a law that squeaked by designed to prevent it from happening again. What the fuck?

[Peter_x]

31. Yes

The phrase, "job creation," can now be flushed along with others like, "a thousand points of light," "just say no," "newly appointed Drug Czar," "mission accomplished," ad nauseum.

[malaise]

32. And it is bullshit

http://freakoutnation.com/2011/04/10/in-2001-bush-tax-cuts-promised-to-decrease-our-debt-by-1-7-trillion/
<snip>
The Heritage Foundation pushed hard for affording tax cuts for the wealthy this year.

Among other claims, jobs creation was supposedly going to increase by 1.6 million by the end of 2011.

The unemployment rate would average just 4.7 percent instead of 4.9 percent from FY 2002 to FY 2011.

This is a gem. Heritage Foundation in 2001:

No matter how they determined this claim, they pushed it and it was a colossal failure. Worth noting, the GOP and the Heritage Foundation walk hand in hand in calculating solutions to our budget.

change size of graph

[vroomvroom]

33. $100 says Obama will Cave on this. nt

[joeunderdog]

34. Yes, the top 1% decide policy.

SOrry about that guys.

[SpiralHawk]

35. "Who cares what you Americans think? Sneer." - Republicon SuckerPuppetMasters

[piratefish08]

36. 2% of America says NO TAXES!

Obama agrees.

[KharmaTrain]

37. The Only Numbers That Matter...

...are on the checks now being collected by every candidate for next year. They're going after the big bundlers...those who not only can write the $2500 check, but can do it several times and have friends and family that can do the same. With next year's elections sure to be the most expensive ever, the beltway politicos are sucking up big time to the rich and that's why it'll be next to impossible to raise any taxes...even if 99% of the public approved it. There's NO politician brave enough to ignore the money train...

[Donald Ian Rankin]

38. Declared preference doesn't count for nearly as much as revealed preference - i.e. voting patterns.

A poll that claims that a vast majority of Americans support something which a majority of them actually vote against does not mean very much.

The OP doesn't have a link to the poll, incidentally, which makes me wonder about the methodology and the question asked.

[raccoon]

39. Only thing is, neither party cares what average Americans think. nt

[WillyT]

40. HUGE K & R !!!

:kick:

[inna]

41. seriously.

[Rex]

42. But but but...he is doing a great job! We need cuts to social programs

to fund a uber rich persons tax shelter! Think about their kids...they want a pony too! Why do you hate the rich so!?!!?! I got my pony and a rainbow...so everyone else must just be jealous. Yeah that is it, envy. :crazy: