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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:35 AM
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FUCK the "art of the possible" -- It's time to DEMAND the IMPOSSIBLE
It's exactly the "sensible-ness" of this administration that is fucking this country beyond repair. When the other side consists of nothing but raving lunatics, bringing your most magically sensible game is suicide.

RIGHT NOW folks, European countries that instituted AUSTERITY are expecting contracting economies. CONTRACTING economies. Not slower growth. Contraction. We needed a solid Keynesian strategy out of this economic quagmire back during the anemic "stimulus" debates. Instead we got this 'ART OF THE POSSIBLE" bullshit that was kneecapped by pragmatic capitulations to delicate GOP sensibilities.

So, we're fucked. They are drowning our country in the bathtub, and the "sensible" response we're getting from our "leadership" is "can we please make the water a little warmer."

Since when did we start buying into this "art of the possible" nonsense, anyway?

Did Martin Luther King Jr tailor his actions as to "what was possible"? Did Jack or Robert Kennedy? Did ANYONE who ever did anything worth fucking talking about? Fuck no. You set out to do what's impossible. You set your sights on that or else nothing ever changes.


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/demanding_the_impossible_20110411/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Truthdig+Truthdig%3A+Drilling+Beneath+the+Headlines


Demanding the Impossible
By Eugene Robinson

Far-right Republicans are winning the budget wars because they understand something that nobody else in Washington seems to grasp: The old truism about politics being the art of the possible is no longer true. There’s no question who won last week’s showdown. The outcome—nearly $40 billion in painful cuts—goes well beyond the GOP’s initial demands. That Democrats were able to save a few pet programs is something, but not much. You really don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.

(snip)

The far-right ideologues in the House seek to starve the federal government to the point where it can no longer fulfill its constitutional duty to promote the general welfare. I don’t mean to sound apocalyptic, but that’s what this struggle comes down to. Their inspired tactic—which has worked so well that they would be crazy to abandon it—has been to take a wildly extreme position and stick to it with the obstinacy of a mule. When Democrats offer to negotiate, Republicans increase their demands. The result is that they shift the battlefield and end up fighting on terrain so friendly that they literally can’t lose.

So an initial GOP call for $32 billion in cuts was raised to $61 billion—a ridiculously impossible number. Of course they didn’t get it—but they got almost two-thirds of the way there. Democrats, including President Obama, continue to play by the old art-of-the-possible rules. Bless their hearts. They caucus, they cogitate, they ruminate, they make reasonable concessions and ultimately come up with a result that everyone, surely, should be able to live with. Then they get hit with the next sucker punch.

(snip)

Politically, Obama gets to be seen as sensible, pragmatic, and more interested in solutions than political gamesmanship. But step back and look at the bigger picture. Why are we even talking about spending cuts, rather than increases, when the economy is still struggling to climb out of one of history’s worst recessions? If rising medical costs are the real long-term problem, Obama’s reform law took the first steps toward a solution. Why aren’t Democrats saying the obvious: We need to go farther down that road—at least to a government health plan—rather than reverse direction.

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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:37 AM
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1. K & R
Good post... and me without my popcorn.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:39 AM
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2. too early for p-corn. cigs and coffee!
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:45 AM
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3. So sorry that I can only rec this once.
Outstanding essay.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:45 AM
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4. Time to stop pretending that because one uses lube
and the other may not- that we aren't still getting assraped.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... it's a damn duck!

Time for change, at least in our awareness of the elephant in the livingroom.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:53 AM
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6. and, we'll see how much lube to expect at Obama's speech tomorrow.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:53 AM
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5. Here's to you, Mr. Robinson!
:toast:

So here we have ten apples...

Republicans: "We want all ten apples."

Democrats: "We want five, let's negotiate."

Right?

WRONG!!! That's how the Republicans always end up with nine!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:04 AM
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8. Exactly.
If they demand it all, and we demand our fair share and use that as our starting point in negotiation we ALWAYS WILL LOSE. It's really simple math.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:45 PM
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21. this is a moral fight -- we're either on the side of justice, or not
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:23 AM
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11. and don't forget that Dems are supposed to negotiation on behalf of the hungry
while the R's argue for CEOs -- so, we have the force of high moral ground. and still...no fight for us.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:02 AM
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7. One reason Obama did so well in the election is, we know, his message
of 'hope and change'. It appealed the the young, of course, but also to us boomers who harkened back to JFK and Camelot and the Great Society.

The difference?

At that time "Camelot" and "Man of LaMancha" were part of the common dialogue. The theme for my graduating class was "The Impossible Dream". Drama students used King's "I have a dream" speech for dramatic readings. Despite everything that was horribly wrong with that era, there was nonetheless an air of optimism.

This time around, we were given a hope for the return of optimism, which was subsequently squandered. THAT is why the turnout in 2010 was low - hope and change was seen as a slogan, not as a goal, because of the abdication of principles involved in the compromises that were made.

That essential optimism is no longer endemic in our society. We hoped for hope, and were not surprised to be disappointed.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:07 AM
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9. Obama 2012 - "It Is What It Is"
The problem with appealing to "hope" is that when you don't deliver, you've got a steaming pile of cynicism to overcome. People aren't going to be fooled again.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:44 PM
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31. That Was Inevitable. All The Republicans Have to Do is Say "NO" to Everything and they Win
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:40 PM
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36. completely agree -- having no skin in the game cuts both ways
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:19 AM
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10. K&R
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:26 AM
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12. Big fan of Eugene, and he totally nails it again. Kick and Rec!!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:27 AM
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13. i think he's really bringing his game lately -- :)
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:39 AM
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14. Things will NEVER improve while Dem leadership agrees with Republican LIES.
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 11:39 AM by DirkGently
Where are the words, "Our economic crisis was not caused by, and cannot be alleviated by the reduction of, government spending? In fact, we must spend MORE for the time being to avoid further collapse" "And while we're at it, the decried deficits are the result of insane military expansionism pushed by Republicans?"

Great piece from Eugene. Great post.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:45 AM
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16. Our economic crisis was not caused by, and cannot be alleviated by the reduction of, govt spending
eggsactly.

and, wouldn't it be nice if they actually went after that which caused the crisis -- and reinstated Glass-Stegall.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:39 AM
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15. recommend
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:47 AM
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17. You can do that when you have the leverage to make it happen.
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 11:48 AM by LoZoccolo
Unfortunately, we lost a lot of "blue dog" Democrats who still had substantial partisan voting records (if one of them did not, feel free to name a name and we can go to the voting record and check) who could have provided some of this leverage. The argument from progressives is that this was an intentional purge by progressives, and we should I guess see a progressive onslaught come 2012 if we can wait it out until then, when we'll be able to regain a majority and pass progressive legislation. I don't believe that, but if someone does, then that should reassure them.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:05 PM
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19. like, one house of congress?
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:37 PM
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35. Yeah, it's weird how that works, isn't it?
Why should anyone ever be afraid of Republicans taking the the White House? Apparently all you need is one house of Congress and you can dominate the agenda.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:45 PM
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37. it's dishonest in the extreme to say that we can't do anything
if we had this little thing called "leadership" we'd be dominating the agenda. as it is, the GOP are running the table and Obama ought to be ashamed.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:51 PM
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49. Seemed to work pretty well during the Healthcare debate. Oh, wait, then WE had BOTH houses ...
The times the Obama WH is able to fight for the Democratic agenda seems to coincide with Blue Moons and the time Republicans think are good to raise taxes.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:07 PM
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55. it's time to call them on this bullshit.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:52 PM
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23. Dude, those blue dogs you are mourning are the ones who kept
Obama from doing anything for the first two years.

There is nothing unfortunate about losing the quislings.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:47 PM
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38. There were bills passed along party lines where they sided with the Democrats.
Now the representatives in those seats vote along Republican Party lines. A net loss from an objective standard.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:51 AM
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18. Obama is to negotiating what Pee Wee Herman is to heavy weight boxing.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:11 PM
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20. is he weak/unable to do better...or...is he strong/unwilling to do better?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:48 PM
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22. Niether. Just another SOP professional politician looking towards the next election.
He's convinced that his re-election is to be found in the "center" so he pursues policies that gives the illusion of "splitting the difference" but, in reality, are rightist. He believes that the left is impotent because they are frightened of the right and will accept him as the only alternative. So, it just makes (politically unscrupulous) sense to pursue the votes of the right and ignore the left.

"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians.  Now, to go and stick one at the very head of government couldn’t be wise." Mark Twain
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:08 PM
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44. SOP = POS
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:54 PM
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24. Imo, the only reason for a strategy that is 'sensible'
in the face of the huge problems this country is facing, is that both sides want the same things. Make the people pay for Wall St's gambling debts, and speed up the decades long attempt to privatize everything.

The Health Ins. bill helped move more public funds into private hands. So that is done.

The Education policies of this administration is helping get more public funds into private hands.

The biggest prize was always the SS fund.

If this administration does anything to move any part of SS, now or in the future, towards privatization of even a fraction of that fund, something Bush was unable to do, then we know that the so-called 'budget-battle' is nothing more than political theater with the outcome already decided.

Demand the impossible is the only way to get what we want. That is why the Republicans are going all the way and allowing the demand to end Medicare to be put out there, knowing that people will think they've won something if they only end part of it.

I do not believe our representatives are so stupid they are not aware of this simple and well-known tactic or that if they wanted to, they could not use it themselves.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:24 PM
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32. likely, there's plenty of Dems who're eager to privatize SS/Medicare
and Obama may well be one of them.

WE have to demand the impossible of THEM. that they protect OUR interests for once.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:18 PM
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40. Feels like the public is being "handled" a bit doesn't it? The "two sides" thing feels like a sham.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:24 PM
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45. nothing like being "handled" -- except perhaps being treated like a imbecile
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:44 PM
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46. Lucy & the $38 billion-dollar football?
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:55 PM
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25. Can we email this to Obama, Pouffe, Reid, Geitner, etc., etc.
Maybe one of them will read it. Better yet, let's see if we can convince Eugene Robinson to deliver a copy or two to the white house!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:30 PM
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28. maybe we can get a Million Senior Citizens to deliver it in person, as they protest Medicare cuts!
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:22 PM
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26. This is pretty strong language for Mr. Robinson
"President Obama, continue to play by the old art-of-the-possible rules. Bless their hearts."

I couldn't agree more, it has become the insane cop/bad cop gambit... ughh
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:25 PM
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27. Eugene doesn't rant easily. The more reason to listen when he does.
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:39 PM
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30. Exactly.. when the somewhat quiet Libs start perking up - we
got ourselves a situation.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:16 PM
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39. Wonder we'll hear that Eugene Robinson is a "fringe lefty?"
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:35 PM
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41. an "ultra far leftist"
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:46 PM
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47. A Maoist Pulitzer Prize-winning looon-itic!!!!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 08:18 PM
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54. with great glasses.
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:34 AM
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61. LoL..
:rofl:
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:32 PM
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29. Doing My HIghest KICK
and Recommend.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:33 PM
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33. Well I always told my kids...................
to reach for the stars. You might not make it, but you'll come closer than if you DON'T reach for them.

Kick for Gene Robinson's great piece. One of my fav pundits.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:37 PM
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34. 5 stars KnR :o)
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:35 PM
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42. K & R
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:17 PM
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43. K & R !!!
:kick:

:hi:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:19 PM
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51. hey Willy T!
:hi:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:19 PM
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52. hey Willy T!
:hi:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:48 PM
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48. Posted to my 2500 FB friends!
:applause:
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:09 PM
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50. That's an excellent start.
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Agony Donating Member (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:56 PM
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53. Democratic politicians need to learn how to "Wage Peace".
Or get the hell out of the way.
It has been clear for a long time that the Repukes want to just run the "government" into the fucking ditch. Then privatize it.

Go for the impossible! Go for it now!


Cheers! :hi:
Agony
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:26 PM
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56. You know what would really cause a CONTRACTING economy? A multi-month government shutdown
caused by Obama demanding more stimulus as opposed to cuts.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:55 PM
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57. right...b/c Obama would have been the cause of a shutdown.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:17 PM
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58. If Obama refused to sign clean continuing resolution (that left spending as is), because it didn't
contain stimulus, Obama would absolutely be the cause of the shutdown.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 06:40 AM
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59. that's only one scenario - another would have been for the Dems/Obama to fight for us all along
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:15 AM
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60. ayup. Be audacious Barry.
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