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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:58 AM
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Krugman- Why Not A Public Option for Medicare?
But if you want a really radical proposal — but one that, unlike privatization, actually has strong evidence on its side — why not add a true public option to Medicare?

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Look, I know this isn’t politically feasible, at least not now. But neither is Ryan’s system of inadequate vouchers. And this one has the virtue of being something that experience suggests would actually work if we could overcome the political hurdles.

I’m sure the trolls will be screaming as soon as this is posted. But notice that neither I nor Longman are suggesting that anyone be forced into such a system. It would have to win patients in a fair competition with both traditional Medicare and Medicare Advantage.

And what would terrify the right, of course, is the likelihood that genuine socialized medicine would actually win that competition.

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/12/why-not-a-public-option-for-medicare/
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:00 AM
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1. recommend
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:01 AM
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2. Would the cost be the same?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:04 AM
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4. In countries that actually have Public Options or Single Payer, the costs are far less.
We have precedent to look toward. Or we can continue to imitate the ostrich and keep our heads buried in the sand.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:13 AM
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7. Maybe single payer works because doctors are used to making less money.
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 11:15 AM by dkf
Or because end of life payments are sharply curtailed. A sensible health care system would not spend as we do, with half of expenses incurred near death.

I support single payer for all because I think we need to be more rational in how we spend healthcare dollars. But to me that means reviewing the situation for probability of success.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:54 PM
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12. Are those countries greedy capitalist pigs like us?
Or do they actually seem to care about the citizenry?
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:02 AM
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3. Not THAT is bold and serious!!!!
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:06 AM
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5. but how would this preserve the profits of the insurers?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:07 AM
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6. Medicare for all!
Let everyone buy into the most-efficient health coverage plan in the U.S.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:58 AM
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8. I thought Medicare WAS a public option!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:01 PM
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13. I wish it were for others than the elderly and disabled.
That was what could have been offered as the public option, the choice of buying Medicare as your insurance.
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:05 AM
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14. It is a public insurance plan. He's going a step further ...
and proposing a public option for the service providers -doctors, hospitals, and so on.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:23 PM
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9. I don't know what this means
Because VA bills private insurers for services provided.

It's not a true government medical care system. I am totally confused by what Krugman is saying here.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:24 PM
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10. Now that's what I'm talkin' about! n/t
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:52 PM
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11. kick n/t
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