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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:34 PM
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Bolivia enshrines natural world's rights with equal status for Mother Earth
Source: guardian.co.uk

Bolivia is set to pass the world's first laws granting all nature equal rights to humans. The Law of Mother Earth, now agreed by politicians and grassroots social groups, redefines the country's rich mineral deposits as "blessings" and is expected to lead to radical new conservation and social measures to reduce pollution and control industry.

The country, which has been pilloried by the US and Britain in the UN climate talks for demanding steep carbon emission cuts, will establish 11 new rights for nature. They include: the right to life and to exist; the right to continue vital cycles and processes free from human alteration; the right to pure water and clean air; the right to balance; the right not to be polluted; and the right to not have cellular structure modified or genetically altered.

Controversially, it will also enshrine the right of nature "to not be affected by mega-infrastructure and development projects that affect the balance of ecosystems and the local inhabitant communities".

"It makes world history. Earth is the mother of all", said Vice-President Alvaro García Linera. "It establishes a new relationship between man and nature, the harmony of which must be preserved as a guarantee of its regeneration."

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/10/bolivia-enshrines-natural-worlds-rights



The law, which is part of a complete restructuring of the Bolivian legal system following a change of constitution in 2009, has been heavily influenced by a resurgent indigenous Andean spiritual world view which places the environment and the earth deity known as the Pachamama at the centre of all life. Humans are considered equal to all other entities.

But the abstract new laws are not expected to stop industry in its tracks. While it is not clear yet what actual protection the new rights will give in court to bugs, insects and ecosystems, the government is expected to establish a ministry of mother earth and to appoint an ombudsman. It is also committed to giving communities new legal powers to monitor and control polluting industries.

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:37 PM
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1. Guess our "Democratic" administration will be forced by its sponsors to back a coup there now, eh?
n/t
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:38 PM
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2. Nice to see human rights to nature aren't LBNworthy
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:40 PM
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13. That is the first thing that crossed my mind too. I was very surprised. nt
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:47 PM
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16. actually they are...but this was from Sunday night so it was older than the 12 hr limit in LBN
:hi:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:41 PM
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3. K&R
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:06 PM
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4. Another Guardian first. Hooray. A soveirgn country first. Hooray. This would have never
happened if their was an Economic Hit Man success in Bolivia. The takeover and take back of their water helped put them on the path? What great news!
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:10 PM
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5. One of the more asinine concepts I've seen in quite some time
Is Mother Nature going to take some responsibility for her actions? Can we sue for damages when there's an earthquake or a hurricane?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:36 PM
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9. LOL! After the battering Mother Nature has taken from her most "intelligent," smartass children...
...She would be within Her rights to expel us from earth!

The World Wildlife Fund gives us 50 years--at current levels of pollution, consumption, deforestation and extirpations of species--50 years to the DEATH of Planet Earth.

The DEATH. Not altered conditions. Some "survival of the fittest" (or the most clever). The DEATH of it ALL. ALL life. ALL potential for life. ALL food sources. ALL drinkable water and breathable air. The end. Fini.

So you can go crying about earthquakes and hurricanes--which, by the way, didn't bother people who were smart enough to live in thatched huts, teepees and light wood/rice paper structures in high earthquake zones, and didn't build vast vertical cities and nuclear power plants in earthquake zones, and didn't fuck up the climate causing bigger and 'better' hurricanes, melted polar ice caps and coastal flooding. WE are the authors of our own problems, not Mother Nature. WE, who think we are above it all. WE, who defy and disregard and make war on nature, for profit. Especially WE, in the U.S.A., who are the worst country on earth for polluting the atmosphere and causing climate change, because of our out-of-control transglobal corporations and war profiteers.

Bolivia's got the right idea. DEMOCRACY. Let the people decide. We don't have that here any more, with the corporate-run 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines and the other disastrous assaults on our democracy. I hope that we recover our democracy but I fear that we won't, and that the least that will happen as a result is U.S.A. decline and fall, like the Roman Empire--rightwing/corporate-induced social mayhem and suffering, here, like that suffered by most of Latin America, at the hands of our government and corporation and their local rightwing lackeys, over the previous decades and centuries.

Latin Americans are raising themselves out of that nightmare, and we need to study them for how they are doing it. Transparent elections is one key. Grass roots organization is another. And a third is thinking BIG--thinking, for instance, of a green, sustainable earth and a fair and earth-friendly marketplace, in which monopolistic and polluting practices are forbidden. That is the goal of this law in Bolivia. It empowers grass roots groups and individuals, as well as government environmental activists, to file suit and to advocate on behalf of Mother Earth and all of the processes that that phrase encompasses--clean water, clean air, healthy forests, healthy oceans, abundant wild life, a protected and life-enhancing food chain and elimination of pollution.

Most environmental laws are based on COMPETING HUMAN NEEDS. These laws have FAILED to protect the earth, our only home. For one thing, poor Indigenous communities and poor communities and individuals of every kind, DON'T HAVE THE MONEY to COMPETE AGAINST Monsanto or Exxon Mobil or Chevron or Chiquita, in a legal framework that requires injury to humans in order to stop environmental degradation. This law puts government on Mother Nature's side in these disputes. It puts the weight of the law on the side of the environment, not just as to impacts on humans, but as to impacts on the WHOLE SYSTEM OF LIFE.

This is a very significant new perspective--and one of those things we need to study, pay careful attention to and adapt to our situation, coming out of the new leftist democracy movement in Latin America. I applaud and welcome it. It may be only a law, at this point--a provision of the Bolivian constitution--but so was the First Amendment, when it was first added to our constitution. Too bad it's ended up meaning Corporate Speech and Corporate news monopolies, but it worked pretty well for a long while, as interpreted by honest judges, and left us with a legacy, as citizens, of remembering what democracy was like before the corporations became the rulers. Interpretation and implementation will determine if this Bolivian constitutional provision has the power, over time, to make a difference--in Bolivia and around the earth. It's a good beginning.

:applause: :grouphug: Bolivia! :grouphug: :applause:

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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:59 PM
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10. Have you ever been to Bolivia?
I've done business there and it's not a place I take seriously when it come to legal, political or environmental issues. I'm sure there's a business angle to this that is designed to benefit the government, most likely at the expense of some company that has invested there.

Sorry, I struggle to put altruism and the Bolivian government in the same context.
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Llewlladdwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:32 PM
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18. THE DEATH of Planet Earth? Really?
That just simply isn't possible. Sure, you could kill off most humans fairly easily, but killing every living thing? How would you accomplish that? And how do you get rid of all the atmosphere and water? The only mechanisms I can see would be a strike by an astronomical object large enough to shatter the planet, or the Sun going supernova. Neither of which is something we or the Earth have any control over.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:17 PM
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20. There have been mass extinctions in the past
The dinosaurs became extinct because of a meteor striking the planet and the Permian extinction, which killed nearly all forms of life on the planet, was due to volcanic activity.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 08:35 PM
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21. Here's one of the articles on the 50 year death warrant for Planet Earth
Earth's population will be forced to colonise two planets within 50 years if natural resources continue to be exploited at the current rate, according to a report out this week.
A study by the World Wildlife Fund (WWF), to be released on Tuesday, warns that the human race is plundering the planet at a pace that outstrips its capacity to support life.

In a damning condemnation of Western society's high consumption levels, it adds that the extra planets (the equivalent size of Earth) will be required by the year 2050 as existing resources are exhausted.

The report, based on scientific data from across the world, reveals that more than a third of the natural world has been destroyed by humans over the past three decades.

Using the image of the need for mankind to colonise space as a stark illustration of the problems facing Earth, the report warns that either consumption rates are dramatically and rapidly lowered or the planet will no longer be able to sustain its growing population.

Experts say that seas will become emptied of fish while forests - which absorb carbon dioxide emissions - are completely destroyed and freshwater supplies become scarce and polluted.

The report offers a vivid warning that either people curb their extravagant lifestyles or risk leaving the onus on scientists to locate another planet that can sustain human life. Since this is unlikely to happen, the only option is to cut consumption now.

Systematic overexploitation of the planet's oceans has meant the North Atlantic's cod stocks have collapsed from an estimated spawning stock of 264,000 tonnes in 1970 to under 60,000 in 1995.

The study will also reveal a sharp fall in the planet's ecosystems between 1970 and 2002 with the Earth's forest cover shrinking by about 12 per cent, the ocean's biodiversity by a third and freshwater ecosystems in the region of 55 per cent.

The Living Planet report uses an index to illustrate the shocking level of deterioration in the world's forests as well as marine and freshwater ecosystems. Using 1970 as a baseline year and giving it a value of 100, the index has dropped to a new low of around 65 in the space of a single generation.

It is not just humans who are at risk. Scientists, who examined data for 350 kinds of mammals, birds, reptiles and fish, also found the numbers of many species have more than halved.


(MORE)
(my emphasis)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/jul/07/research.waste

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At this rate of human pollution, consumption, deforestation and extirpation of species, the earth will be UNLIVABLE actually in LESS than 50 years, according to this WWF report. (I said 50 years. They say 2050 AD. That's 39 years from now.) Our biosphere and atmosphere will be gone. Not by nuclear war (although nuclear power disasters may contribute). Not by an asteroid hitting the earth. But by corporate-driven over-consumption.

I pity us. I do. I can understand how we got here. The better we become at producing goods, the more children do we have. And everybody wants a washing machine, a dryer, a refrigerator, a microwave oven, a coffee maker, a shiny new car, a computer, a TV, a phone that plays games, sends emails and accesses the internet--and takes photographs--air conditioning in hot climates, heating in cold ones, plastic goods--bottles of every description for carrying numerous different products, new plastic bags at every trip to the supermarket --the latest sports gear or camping gear or whatever--new clothes in the latest fashions, DVDs, and numerous other luxury items--air travel, cruises, rock concerts, the latest sound systems--as well as an abundance and variety of foods, the latest medical miracles when we need them, and so forth--and specific entities, like the Pentagon, want new "war toys" of every description and lots of oil to grease the war machine, and transglobal corporations want resources, resources and more resources--oil, gas, minerals, gold, lithium, coal, timber, land for growing biofuels and genetically modified foods, and on and on.

Mother Earth cannot keep up. That is the tragic truth. Our SUCCESS as a species is killing us, and everything around us, and everything that made us. Well, I should say, predatory capitalism is what is killing us, for predatory capitalism--with only the rich getting richer--is driving this insane consumption. It IS possible to be happy--content with love, friendship and the good life--without a lot of this "stuff." It IS possible to create a green, sustainable world, with lots of variety and a healthy marketplace and people who get most of their joy from something other than material possessions. This "driven" culture that we are a part of is not healthy for humans either. And it is absolutely destructive of democracy, at this point--for the transglobal corporations and war profiteers who are "driving" it have targeted democracy--good government, wise environmental policy, fairness, social justice--and have ended it, actually in this country, with, among other vicious assaults, the spread of corporate-run 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines all over the U.S. And their power is so pervasive that most of us can't even see what they've done.

Since the U.S. is responsible for 25% of the pollution that is killing Mother Earth, restoration of democracy here--throwing off the corporate rulers--would be a big step toward such a green, sustainable world. The Latin Americans are doing it. So can we.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 03:09 PM
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27. LOL! Notice how Llewlladdwr, badtoworse and others who are criticizing Bolivia DON'T ANSWER
the above post which lays out the World Wildlife Fund's dire prediction of less than 50 years to the DEATH of Planet Earth.

Llewlladdwr thinks it's impossible that the planet will die--the typically stupid response of people who only consult corporate 'news' sources and have made no effort to understand the environmental issues that the World Wildlife Fund has researched and analyzed. Badtoworse thinks you have to have the money to travel to Bolivia, and business interests there, to understand constitutional law and its function as a statement of principles and goals (not as perfection of those principles and goals).

Neither one can handle the truth: that the planet is dying, and, indeed, that the planet is BEING KILLED by our out-of-control transnational corporations which have accelerated the processes of the Industrial Revolution a thousand-fold. Pollution, deforestation, loss of clean water and the extirpation of species (loss of biodiversity) are OUT OF CONTROL.

It takes democracy to bring them back under control. They have that in Bolivia, where the great majority has now stated a PRINCIPLE with regard to Mother Earth, in their CONSTITUTION--that Mother Earth has a RIGHT to exist and prosper. As with the inclusion of the First Amendment in our Constitution's "Bill of Rights," it is a beginning. The right is now asserted and must be implemented and defended. It must now move from the Constitution into reality--into the counsels of government, into the pertinent laws that government creates and that courts and others interpret, and into the behaviors of all citizens and other entities that impact the environment. It has been made a PRINCIPLE of the society that enacted it, and must now be put in practice.

Again, I praise and applaud Bolivia for enacting this constitutional provision. I also applaud them for their democracy, for only in a true democracy--with honest elections and leaders who attend to the common good--could this have occurred. Sadly, tragically, the U.S. is fast losing what environmental protections we have had, and we are fast losing our democracy--to corporate-run 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines, among other things--and thus our ability to insist that the common good be attended to. The goal of protecting Mother Earth, in her own right, cannot be established here, in present circumstances. But I am glad that is has been, in Bolivia (also in Ecuador)--and I hope and pray that this constitutional provision becomes the norm, worldwide. It's time. It really is.

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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:12 PM
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11. agreed
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 03:20 PM by BOG PERSON
if, as jeremy bentham said, the idea of rights is nonsense, and the idea of natural rights is nonsense on stilts, than the idea of rights of nature is... nonsense on stilts that's been stood on its head.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:11 PM
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6. Bravo! Nt
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:26 PM
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7. Beautiful...this will make history.
It will set a precedent for every other country on Earth, as each one comes to see the necessity of it. Fukushima is providing the negative example of what can happen when humanity sets itself above nature.

"Dominion," my ass...it's stewardship or NOTHING!!!
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:48 PM
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8. K&R!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:39 PM
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12. Finally! How exciting! National sanity in a modern state. Best. Government. Ever.
I believe I may move to Bolivia. Hope the weather is decent there.
:bounce::loveya:
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:45 PM
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14. I would recommend Santa Cruz for the climate
Bolivia is, however, one of the poorest countries in the western hemisphere. I've been there a number of times and would not want to live there.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:45 PM
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19. I'm not a city person, Santa Cruz is way crowded, but I love Pacific
Ave. for a long weekend. I lived and traveled in Mexico for about 7 years all told.

Often in some extremely "rustic" rural areas of Chiapas and Oaxaca, and not as a tourist.

I love it, I love the people, and still have a little place down there.

Poor is a relative condition, I'd rather not have much and be happy than be rich and grumpy.

I'll check it out with your experience in mind.

thanks!
:hi:

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:47 PM
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15. Color me skeptical, but I find this a meaningless gesture
Don't get me wrong, I love Evo and he's the real Socialist that Castro and Chavez wish they could be

But granting "mother earth" rights makes as much sense as granting corporations rights


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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 08:42 PM
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22. But if corporations are giving themselves "rights," we'd better give some to Mama Earth.
Balance being the goal. Hm?

And, believe me, Evo and his numerous supporters MEAN it. They are not kidding around. They are not engaged in empty gestures. They are seeking fundamental reform of the predatory capitalist system that is killing us all.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:23 PM
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24. OK - who would speak for Earth?
Would it be the government?

Would it be the landowners?

Would it be some elected official? If so whom?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 02:26 PM
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26. Who advocates for free speech? The ACLU. And other groups and individuals. It is a PRINCIPLE.
That's what constitutions are FOR. Constitutions don't say if "free speech" is granted to a person crying "Fire!" in a crowded theater or to D.H. Lawrence and his publishers. They say "free speech" is a RIGHT. Courts, judges, plantiffs, petitioners, prosecutors, advocacy groups and the general public work out the details over decades and centuries, whenever the constitutional right of free speech is encroached upon.

It is VERY IMPORTANT that "free speech" is a fundamental right specified in the Constitution. Otherwise, city, state and federal governments and business corporations could EASILY and arbitrarily destroy that right--with restrictions that effectively eliminate "free speech" or with punitive measures based on the morays of a particular era or place, or the propaganda desires of big business.

The Bush Junta and collusive Democrats have succeeded in various egregious restrictions of "free speech"--for instance, Patriot Act laws that permit searches of library records and gag laws against librarians with regard to those searches, or by subjecting foreign journalists to special visa laws, or by police practices of "caging" political protestors away from political conventions. And corporations have succeeded in monopolizing news and opinion outlets, and in equating money with "free speech," and are so wealthy that they can afford to have numerous paid operatives on the Internet, the last bastion of "free speech" in broadcast media.

These show us that even a Constitutional right enshrined as the FIRST RIGHT of this land, and that has stood the test of time as a near absolute right, can be eroded and destroyed in a particular country. But the right of "free speech" has nevertheless "gone viral" (as they say) over the two centuries since the American Revolution. The PRINCIPLE of "free speech" is now worldwide and considered a fundamental, basic HUMAN right. It has become the first criterion used to evaluate democracy itself. And this makes it very restorable here, in a general restoration of American democracy--if the American people should ever be so inclined--and more easily establishable elsewhere, in struggles for democracy.

There were many struggles leading up to the establishment of the right of "free speech" in the U.S. Constitution as the first right of the "Bill of Rights"--struggles across Europe and England, and elsewhere, with kings, popes and oppressive governments ever trying to punish critics and "free thinkers." It did not get established overnight or on a whim.

The same is true for the rights of Mother Nature. Many struggles have ensued, and many environmental laws have been written, that aim to protect the integrity of particular natural ecological systems--say forests, or ocean fisheries--or to establish natural principles as law, such as protecting biodiversity or clean water. But these laws have failed. We are losing the Earth anyway. And, among the reasons they have failed, is that the laws are often tied (by statue or by practice) to human injury (say, polluted water or air that harms humans). So--as with the American Revolution and its formal establishment of "certain unalienable rights"--a more fundamental principle needs to be established that Mother Nature has a right to exist and prosper REGARDLESS of the needs or desires of human beings.

There may be no local community, tribe or workforce that is directly injured by, say, the clearcutting of a remote forest. But, with this Bolivian Constitutional provision, the birds, fish and other animals, the waters and soils, and the ecological integrity of that forest is protected by a HIGHER RIGHT--a fundamental principle of the law.

This makes it more difficult for corporate and other scofflaws and profiteers to proceed with environmental destruction. It makes it more difficult for "bought and paid for" politicians to permit them to.

When a corporation running a shopping mall tries to ban political petitioners at a mall, those petitioners have a FUNDAMENTAL principle of the Constitution to call upon in asserting their civil right to petition in a public space. And corporations, bad politicians, bad judges and so on, have to go to considerable trouble and expense, and have to devise twisted arguments, to ban them (and, thus far, in our constitutional history, have not succeeded on this particular restriction of "free speech").

The Equal Rights Amendment (women's rights) is a good example of why failure to establish a fundamental Constitutional right can make protecting certain rights extremely difficult. The fascists and misogynists in this country are now on a rampage of repealing a woman's right to control her own body, as it has been established during our progressive era in lower level laws. Next may be a woman's right to equal wages and so on. There is no fundamental "Bill of Rights" protection of women from unequal treatment. The ERA would not have guaranteed women's rights--just as the First Amendment does not guarantee "free speech"--but it would help enormously, if women could point to specific Constitutional provision stating women's equality in unequivocal terms.

Lower level laws are not doing the job on women's rights. Lower level laws can be easily repealed, at the whim of a particular era or heinous power establishment, or easily eroded and undermined by scofflaws who don't want women to be equal or who are cynically using that issue for rightwing/corporate political purposes.

So, too, protection of Planet Earth, our only home, which our Industrial Revolution has placed in such peril. A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE needs to be ESTABLISHED to significantly HELP--it can never ensure--the survival and integrity of Planet Earth.

WHO will advocate for this PRINCIPLE is not the issue, and cannot be addressed in a Constitutional framework. The U.S. Constitution did not establish the A.C.L.U. as the advocate of "free speech." And it is not the ONLY advocate of "free speech." There are other groups. And the Department of Justice, the courts and other government entities, and individuals, as well as the "Fifth Estate" (journalists) all have responsibilities with regard to this right.

The government will take a more or less active role, or no role at all, depending on politics and the tenor of the times. If a George Bush-type is in office, the government will do everything it can to let transglobal corporations destroy the environment for profit, by defying and violating the Constitution on this matter (if it contained a provision establishing Mother Earth's rights). But those seeking to ensure the survival and health of the environment will have a strong weapon to fight back with--as the librarians had, with the First Amendment--and the PRINCIPLE will remain, for further efforts. A Constitutional right for Mother Earth presents a serious obstacle to scofflaws and predators--whereas, say, federal funding of the EPA is no obstacle to environmental predators if they have a Diebold-ES&S (s)elected Congress.

Not that a Diebold-ES&S (s)elected Congress would give a crap for anything in the Constitution (including their own right to declare war), but they would feel obliged to pretend that they did. People would have to fight through that crapola to get at the truth, and struggle to get their democracy and their country back, but such fights for fundamental rights and the rule of law have gone on forever. We are not the first to have a scofflaw government and transglobal/war profiteer rulers. Bolivia may have such a government in the future (especially if CIA plans for overthrowing Bolivia's democracy succeed). The establishment of Mother Nature's rights in the Bolivian Constitution will present them with an obstacle to giving away, say, Bolivians' water rights to Bechtel Corp. And even if such a junta rescinded Pachamama's law, it would live in the peoples' memory, as the First Amendment would here, if some junta ever removed it from the U.S. Constitution.

But they probably won't do that BECAUSE it is such a ikon of freedom in most people's minds. There are many ways to erode "free speech"--including the Supreme Court equating money with speech. But look at the lengths to which they've had to go, and the money it has cost them, to do that. The First Amendment doesn't guarantee "free speech." It just makes it a long hard and expensive battle for the bad guys to destroy it in other ways--and the PRINCIPLE lives on, some day to be recovered. So, too, with Constitutional protection of Mother Earth's rights. It begins the process of restoring a viable planet and protecting it in the future. The PRINCIPLE needs to be stated and established as fundamental law.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 04:17 PM
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28. Good defense, but in the case of free speech, people speak for people
If a person feels their speech is threatened, they speak to the ACLU, who then speaks for the citizens

"Mother Nature" is a concept. It cannot speak for itself, and as a result anyone can claim to speak for it. Just like Fundies who speak for "God" and politicians who speak for "families" there is a slight of hand at work. They are actually speaking for themselves, and claiming it came from god, families or nature.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 06:43 PM
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29. I spent 10+ years as a basically 24/7 environmental activist and that experience taught me
several things about the law and the environment. One of them is this: The agents of corporations who intend rapacious or polluting activities, try, if challenged in regulatory or court processes, to narrow the perspective down as far as possible--down to the level, say, of a individual dead fish, if they can get away with it. They try whatever their expensive lawyers can get away with, to PREVENT the issue of the drastic loss of that fish SPECIES in that creek or in the region, from being considered by the regulators or the courts. They will fight like the devil to exclude evidence that brings the bigger picture to bear upon their permit. Should corporate clearcutting of trees needed to cool streams (with the fish species requiring cold streams) be permitted if only ten such fish have been found in that creek, in the last five years, when there used to be thousands? Or should a hundred such fish, where there used to be thousands, in another nearby creek, justify clearcutting in a creek where no fish have been found (where there used to be thousands)--a hundred fish found in a nearby creek being evidence of fish, yes, but NOT of recovery of the SPECIES?

They try to make the question "how does this logging operation impact this fish or that fish?" the regulatory or legal issue. And, ironically, if the fish are entirely gone from a creek they want to clearcut--because of the rapacious logging practices of the past--they want that creek designated for such logging NOW, because...um...no fish are at risk.

They try to narrow the issue in time as well as in space. They want current degraded conditions to be considered normal. They also attack the legal "standing" of groups and individuals to challenge them in regulatory or legal proceedings and attack environmental groups for obtaining evidence from "private property," even though the resources at risk--clean water, the fishery, birds, wildlife--belong to everyone. And finally they attack environmental activists with what are called S.L.A.P.P. suits ("strategic lawsuits against public participation") for publicly exposing the corporation's environmental crimes.

These are quite effective corporate counter-attacks on environmental laws. With the simultaneous corporate attack on democracy--with 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines (the privatization of vote tabulation), with bought and paid for political campaigns and public office holders, and so on--environmental laws are simply NOT enforced, even in a state like California (where I was active on environmental issues) and which brags, quite falsely, of having the toughest environmental regs in the country.

What I see in the Bolivians' establishment of CONSTITUTIONAL rights for Mother Nature is a turning-upside-down of the issue, so that the broadest perspective on the environment is REQUIRED, by constitutional mandate, to be the FIRST consideration, in a regulatory or court proceeding. What happens now is that (generally) corporate "private property" rights are the first consideration, and, after that, NARROWLY, the immediate place where their activity will occur (one limited piece of the creek and its forest), and nothing else. Federal and state laws protecting threatened and endangered species or clean water are simply excluded from consideration (when they should be the first consideration) because, in practice, the "benefit of the doubt" is given to the property owner.

This is so wrong as to be criminal--gravely criminal, in my opinion, with the Earth itself now at grave risk on every front (vast pollution of air, water and soils, vast deforestation, vast loss of biodiversity and critical loss of climate stability). THIS needs to be the perspective in all environmental decisions. And it never is.

Of course, HUMANS will do the advocating for Mother Earth. The Bolivian notion of Mother Earth having rights gives such advocates a new way to turn things around, to the proper perspective for SAVING Planet Earth from being dead in less than 50 years. One logging clearcut may not be melting the polar ice caps--but many such clearcuts ARE contributing to it. The one clearcut needs to be seen--needs to be REQUIRED to be seen--among the MANY clearcuts, in a particular creek and region, and in OTHER regions.

Similarly, one clearcut may not be the last blow to the last ten fish in a creek, but, my God, how MANY blows are we going to allow? And when the fish are gone, is that carte blanche to clearcut bird habitat and to pollute the water with mud and pesticides?

A BIGGER perspective is needed--a global perspective. And, really and truly, "property rights" have to be put LAST on our list of considerations. Saving Planet Earth has to be first.

In California, we've lost NINETY-FIVE PERCENT of the ancient redwood forest over the last hundred years. Half of that time, we have had strong laws protecting forests, water and biodiversity. There are a lot of reasons why these laws have failed, but the ability of rapacious corporations to narrow the issues is prime among them. We need a much broader principle to save this planet, and it needs to be fundamental constitutional law. It needs to turn heads around--the heads of regulators and judges, the heads of politicians, the heads of corporate executives, the heads of environmental advocates and of ordinary citizens. We need to put Mother Earth FIRST. This doesn't mean that business has to stop or that resources can't be used. But it may mean that corporations should be forbidden to own vital resource lands and that no one can contribute to the death of the planet in the name of "private property." I'm all for a healthy marketplace. I think it's a basic human need, actually. We humans love a variety of products and the "melting pot" nature of markets. But we do NOT have a healthy marketplace today. We have a marketplace that favors monopolies and other rancid practices, that is impoverishing billions of people, and that is quite literally destroying Planet Earth. Our notion of "freedom" needs to amended so that it does NOT include the "freedom" to destroy the Earth. And if we don't do this, well, that will be the end of OUR species.

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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:18 PM
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30. Great post, Peace Patriot! It should be an OP in itself.
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 07:19 PM by Raksha
Re "The agents of corporations who intend rapacious or polluting activities, try, if challenged in regulatory or court processes, to narrow the perspective down as far as possible--down to the level, say, of a individual dead fish, if they can get away with it. They try whatever their expensive lawyers can get away with, to PREVENT the issue of the drastic loss of that fish SPECIES in that creek or in the region, from being considered by the regulators or the courts."

I especially appreciate your point about the narrowing of perspective by corporate lawyers in environmental cases. I guess I should have known this, but but since I never actually witnessed it firsthand the way you have I never gave it any thought before.

If I'm reading you correctly, an earth-centered approach written into law as they are doing in Bolivia would force the courts to consider the rights of the ENTIRE ecosystem first, and the rights of private property owners who pollute "their" section of the ecosystem would become a secondary consideration. The corporatists and Randroid libertarians would scream bloody murder...but then if they continue getting their way they'd end up killing the whole biosphere, and eventually themselves along with it.



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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:48 PM
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32. Yes, you got it exactly. The Bolivian constitutional mandate turns the perspective around
to the right perspective for saving Planet Earth. It REQUIRES looking at the WHOLE biosphere as the FIRST consideration, starting with the Planet as a whole and then its interacting parts--individual ecosystems--and LASTLY, who "owns" part of an ecosystem and what they should be permitted to do, that impacts the WHOLE--the rights of everyone else to a viable ecosystem and a viable planet.

When corporate lawyers narrow the perspective--to one piece of one ecosystem, or to this fish or that bird--what is really happening is that they are being permitted to narrow down the perspective, even way below current regulatory/legal standards (f.i., those set by the Endangered Species Act and the Clean Water Act), because, IN PRACTICE, their "property rights" are preferred.

A constitutional mandate stating Mother Earth's right to exist and prosper, apart from human needs and desires, would make this much more difficult. It would alter the very basis of the permitting process.

The predatory capitalism of the last 100 years--and most especially of the last 50 years, as transglobal corporations have vastly accelerated industrial processes, and, ironically, as environmental laws have been passed--has created the wrong perspective, that private property rights are more important than continued life on earth. Thus, the permitting process becomes a contest between competing human groups in which the rich and the powerful almost always win, on narrowed issues--this property, this segment of flowing water, this bird, this fish. Environmental laws, with no constitutional mandate to consider the whole, lend themselves to this kind of sophistry, at which corporate lawyers are very good.

I am not against private property rights but I AM very much against mega-corporations and the super-rich "owning," and being able to destroy, life systems. Birds, fish, water, air, soils--none of the vital parts of ecosystems on which ALL life--including our lives--depend has any respect for private property lines. All are mobile. All are intricate parts of adjoining ecosystems, and all are part of the intricate network of life on earth.

Our laws often say that property owners can't degrade these vital resources--for instance, a property owner can't pollute downstream water for others--but, in practice, they are given the "benefit of the doubt," and, the bigger and more powerful they are, the more "benefit of the doubt" are they given. This is true of ALL environmental values--water quality, air quality, biodiversity, forest cover, climate stability, et al. ALL have been put in the last place instead of the first place, where they belong--in the eyes of the law and in the eyes of regulators and, of course, in the eyes of politicians.

One of the things that is unique about Evo Morales and other leftist leaders in Latin America who share his views is that he and they were REALLY elected--in honest, transparent elections--and owe nothing to the Corporate Rulers and the super-rich. This has been a major accomplishment of the people of Latin America over the last decade. Morales and others can therefore put things in their proper perspective for the common good. Our leaders cannot. They are utterly beholden to the Corporate Rulers and the super-rich, and, lately, to the corporate-run 'TRADE SCRET' voting machines (now largely--80%--owned and controlled by one, private, far rightwing connected corporation--ES&S, which just bought out Diebold).

IF they were NOT beholden to these entities, we would have the proper perspective on Mother Earth here as well--in our laws, in our regulatory processes, in our leaders, in our businesses and in our private lives. The Earth MUST come first. It is the only planet we have. There is no other. All humans know this, deep down in their souls. But we here in the U.S. really don't have a democracy any more. Our deepest desire--to live in a beautiful, healthy, green world--has been thwarted, as have our other desires--desire for social justice, for fairness, for good government, for peace. Everything has this wrong, upside down perspective--that profit is all, that property is all--and we are bribed, bullied and propagandized to believe this, against our own interests, those of our children and those of humanity as a whole.

Bolivia turned things upside down--and will now begin the process of putting them right. A law--even a constitutional mandate--cannot change anything by itself. It to some extent reflects changes that have already occurred within people and leaders, in a democratic system. But it can't fully realize the change except by implementation over time. What this constitutional law does is set the goal. It establishes the principle that Mother Earth is equally important. I would go further and say that, at this point, with the planet so imperiled, the health and continued viability of life on Earth--our own and that which supports us--must come first in our considerations.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:19 PM
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17. K & R !!!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 08:49 PM
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23. Viva Morales!!!
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goodnews Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:16 AM
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25. Capitalist compromise...
Mother Earth Inc.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:52 PM
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31. Too late to Rec, but I can Kick.
I approve!
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