Two Questions: Do You Plan To Watch The President's Debt Speech Wednesday Night, And...

[WillyT]

will you find it hard to believe the words coming out of his mouth?

:shrug:

Me: Yes and Yes.

[BklynThirtyThree]

1. No and Yes

Gotta watch my blood pressure...

[Safetykitten]

2. For the comedy gold alone.

[Donnachaidh]

16. someone has to come up with a drinking game -- keywords likely used?

bipartisan - sacrifice - ???

[Exilednight]

19. I played that game once. My liver couldn't take it anymore. n/t

[Exilednight]

20. You forgot his often used "what I also said, was". n/t

[Safetykitten]

22. Those with "Difficult, pressing, new ideas", and for a gallon of whiskey...

"helpmates"

[IDemo]

33. "Make no mistake" n/t

[woo me with science]

45. 'Some on the Right say......Some on the Left say....."

and an attempt to paint both sides as equally childish and unreasonable, and in need of his adult help to find a compromise.

[CelticThunder]

49. "Folks"

[Brickbat]

3. No and yes.

[Shiver]

4. What time is it on?

'cause I have D&D at six...

[Windy]

5. Will you please read the budget!!!!! My god. Don't believe the media hype

Its very very very easy to read! Its online at http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2012/assets/trs.pdf
in searchable PDF form!!!!!!

Don't be as lazy as the right wingers!!!

[WillyT]

7. Is That The Budget That's Gonna Pass ???

Because the President promised he'd rescind/let expire the Bush Tax Cuts.

That didn't HAPPEN.

:shrug:

[Windy]

10. Wow... read it. I'm not thrilled about the bush tax cuts not expiring either

however, he is going to call for tax increases, etc. Doubtful they'll get through the house/senate. They didn't get through when the dems were in the "so called" majority.

[WillyT]

13. I Hear He's Calling For Cuts In Medicare/Medicaid...

Not true???

:shrug:

[Windy]

32. No, not true. He is calling for changes to address fraud and accounting errors

the targets are health care providers, providers who participate in medicare advantage, etc.
The info is there and easily found and read.

[WillyT]

35. Great !!! - Is He Going After Waste, Fraud, And Abuse In The Military/CIA/NSA Budgets ???

Because I'd go after those first, as a sign of good faith.

You know... to truly prove that EVERYTHING is on the table.

Maybe he could even end one or two of our three wars.

:shrug:

[fredamae]

38. Yup, true...Totally worth at least a review.

I haven't reviwed much, but ...yeah..I gotta say, it ain't looking too bad.
I have a lot to look up yet, but it looks fairly reasonable, so far.

[fredamae]

30. Thanks for the link!

215 pages. Not too bad so far, but I am barely started.

[Shiver]

50. Since I read legislation for fun...

Random page from the budget! :patriot:

TERMINATION: OIL AND GAS COMPANY TAX PREFERENCES (8 TERMINATIONS)
Department of Energy
To foster the clean energy economy of the future and reduce the Nation's reliance on fossil fuels that contribute to climate change, the Administration proposes to repeal tax provisions that preferentially benefit fossil fuel production. Oil and gas subsidies are costly to the American taxpayer and do little to incentivize production or reduce energy prices. Removing these subsidies would reduce greenhouse gas emissions and generate $43.6 billion of additional revenue over the next 10 years, an amount that represents only a small percentage of domestic oil and gas revenues -- about one percent over the coming decade. These terminations free up resources to invest in clean energy development and production, which is critical to the Nation's long-term economic growth and competitiveness.

Funding Summary
(In millions of dollars)
_________________________________________________________________________________________2012.....2013.....2014.....2015.....2016.....2012-2016.....2012-2021
Total, Proposed Changes from Current Law............................................................................................... -3,472...-5,360...-4,858...-4,601...-4,576.....-22,867..........-43,612
Repeal Enhanced Oil Recovery Credit....................................................................................................... ...0........... 0......... 0.......... 0......... 0............ 0................. 0
Repeal Credit for Oil and Gas Produced from Marginal Wells........................................................................ ...0........... 0......... 0.......... 0......... 0............ 0................. 0
Repeal Expensing of Intangible Drilling Costs............................................................................................ -1,875....-2,512..-1,762....-1,403...-1,331.....-8,883...........-12,447
Repeal Deduction for Tertiary Injectants................................................................................................... -6..........-10.......-10........-10........-10............-46.............-92
Repeal Exception to Passive Loss Limitations for Working Interests in Oil and Natural Gas Properties................ -23........-27.......-24........-22........-21............-117............-203
Repeal Percentage Depletion for Oil and Natural Gas Wells.......................................................................... -607......-1,038...-1,079...-1,111....-1,142.......-4,977.........-11,202
Repeal Domestic Manufacturing Tax Deduction for Oil and Natural Gas Companies......................................... -902..... -1,558...-1,653...-1,749....-1,842.......-7,704.........-18260
Increase Geological and Geophysical Amortization Period for Independent Producers to Seven Years................ -59....... -215......-330.....-306.......-230..........-1,140.........-1,408


Justification
Repealing fossil fuel tax preferences helps eliminate market distortions, strengthening incentives for investments in clean, renewable, and more energy efficient technologies. This proposal would take effect beginning January 1, 2012.
In 2009, member states at the G-20 summit committed to phase-out fossil fuel subsidies in the medium term.1 A recent Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development analysis indicates that commitment from all G-20 member states to phase-out fossil fuel subsidies could reduce global greenhouse gas emissions by 10 percent.2 In addition, removal of market distortions created by fossil fuel subsidies will lead to a more efficient allocation within the energy sector as well as across sectors, likely with positive impacts on national output and gross domestic product.

[sasha031]

6. to be honest, I'm having a difficult time watching him

probably get flamed for saying that...

[WillyT]

8. Welcome To The Club...

I'm starting to say, "Blah, blah, blah..." every time I hear him speak these days.

:shrug:

:hi:

[sasha031]

17. shall we have a drinking game

:hi:

[WillyT]

21. Oh Hell... I'm Gonna Have A Shot Every Time He Says He's Gonna Cut...

funding for any program that Liberals/Progresives/Democrats have fought and died for.

Example: The word "Cut" associated with the word "Medicare".

:beer:

:shrug:

:hi:

[Safetykitten]

You better be near a couch or recliner.

[Safetykitten]

15. Not alone there.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. No

Thanks.

[somone]

11. Watch his actions

Pretty as they might sound, his speeches are not worth a bucket

[slipslidingaway]

47. BINGO !!!!!! Watch what is done!!!! n/t

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. Nope. nt

[davidthegnome]

14. Yes

and yes.

[spanone]

18. it's in the afternoon.

[WillyT]

25. Eastern Afternoon, Or Pacific Afternoon ???

:evilgrin:

[fredamae]

39. I can't find it,--but I Think it's 1pm EDT?

[Dappleganger]

23. No.

[golddigger]

24. Ask not what your corporation can do for you, but

what you can do for your corporation!

[somone]

26. Indeed

[WillyT]

27. Wow !!! + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!

Brilliant!!!

:applause::applause::applause:

Perfect!

:hi:

[OhioChick]

28. Sad But True n/t

[October]

34. Unfortunately -- spot on excellence!

[Horse with no Name]

29. I can't watch him anymore. n/t

[The Gunslinger]

31. No and Yes

Just more yammering about how the little guy must sacrifice more for the rich, and the professional left need to get over it.

[mmonk]

36. I will read it and study the words so I can assess and comment.

[aquart]

37. I always stop my ears to the siren song.

What they say doesn't mean a damn thing.

[LWolf]

40. No. Yes.

I'd rather read a transcript afterward than watch it. I can get the gist quickly without the drama.

[JVS]

41. No.

[eleny]

42. It'll be like the Clockwork Orange treatment - but I'll watch

[femmocrat]

43. Is he pre-empting American Idol?

That is the important question!

[Moondog]

44. No. And yes.

He says all kinds of shit. And then does something else altogether. I no longer believe him.

[TransitJohn]

46. We need a good drinking game to play while watching.

Every time 'compromise' or 'bipartisan' is mentioned, chug!

[slipslidingaway]

48. Maybe and yes n/t