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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:06 AM
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"My mother died of ovarian cancer at the age of 53, and in those last painful months

she was more worried about paying medical bills than getting well.."

President Obama, those are your words. I can't believe you will cut medicare, medicaid or Social Security. I still believe you are a man of character.

I am going through breast cancer treatment and I depend on these programs for my life.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:07 AM
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1. Blessings.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:14 AM
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4. Thank you!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:52 AM
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29. I hug you too. I can't believe it too. THis is not the country I was
born into and I am ashamed of this stuff. You should have that so far down the list of worries right now that it sickens me. Take care, honey.
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apples and oranges Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:10 AM
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2. Best wishes to you, but when did Obama say he was cutting
SS/Medicare/medicaid?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:14 AM
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3. You're right. He has never done anything he said he wouldn't do.
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 12:18 AM by Hissyspit
So we have nothing to worry about. :sarcasm:

Somehow if we reword the OP to "I can't believe you will might possibly cut medicare, medicaid or Social Security..." I just don't feel any much better. Time (and tomorrow) will tell.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:15 AM
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5. So basically, it's okay to make shit up...
Because he's gone back on a few of his promises?

Well shit. I bet Obama sells us off to Mexico - he never said he wouldn't! ;-)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:16 AM
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I was just rewording my post when you posted.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:37 AM
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18.  House Democrats sent him a letter warning him not to touch SS.,
so it looks like they have concerns as well. I think the way that this idea of program cuts is being bandied about has a lot of people concerned.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:04 AM
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48. Don't forget the "Catfood Commission"
set up by Obama and headed by two people who will never, ever have to worry about receiving Social Security.
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apples and oranges Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:16 AM
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6. So this is only based on negative assumptions?
OK.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:16 AM
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7. I just reworded my post.
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apples and oranges Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:18 AM
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9. So you're making yourself feel depressed over something
that has not, and most likely will never happen? That makes sense.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:23 AM
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12. Oh, it's more than that.
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 12:24 AM by Hissyspit
I meant more sick to my stomach than depressed, too.
Anyway, the OP was clearly a personal appeal to make sure that it does NOT happen, whether it's going to happen or not, which is yet to be determined.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:27 AM
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14. Yes, that's it - a personal appeal. I wish I could express things better, but thank you for
doing it for me!
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:19 AM
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10. I don't know that he did, but I just came online and have been reading posts about
proposed cuts and many DUers seem to be worried about programs that they will be or are depending on.

I remembered Pres. Obama speaking of his mother, and her worry about medical bills as she lay dying (I was going through treatment then and still am) and it touched me deeply.

Just thought I'd post the President's words as an appeal to remember them.

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apples and oranges Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:24 AM
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13. It's sad that you had to see that. DU has become a hub of misinformation and paranoia
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:36 AM
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16. Yes, when people here said Obama would drop the public option and would extend the Bush tax cuts
they didn't know what they were talking about.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:40 AM
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20. "DU has become a hub of misinformation and paranoia" - nice comment.
not.

disgusting slur, actually.

wtf are you doing here, if you're so unhappy about the state of this board, anyway?
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 02:03 AM
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30. Are we pretending the Obama Cat Food Commision didn't happen?
you must remember, not all DUers get our news from corporate media.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:36 AM
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17. That's too bad you rely on DU for accuracy, as it is just as biased as any opinion forum....but
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 12:38 AM by FrenchieCat
Remember when Obama was going to propose Cuts to Social Security in the SCOTUS too?
If you do remember, you would have read that here....problem is it didn't happen.


Obama will likely unveil Social Security cuts in the State of the Union Address according to sources
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x572164


I'm sorry about your case......but

there are some who....

"tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed....”--George Orwell in 1984
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:43 AM
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22. He has got himself a very helpful Republican House.
All he has to do is compromise away Social Security and Medicare. That is his plan. He wants that money to go to Wall Street.

The Wall Street crowd, will of course steal it all. And then we will be worse off than ever.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:35 AM
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27. He didn't get that Republican house for himself......
Those of us who didn't vote gifted him with it.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 02:07 AM
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31. God forbid a human share their family story.
Shame on you.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 06:35 AM
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32. He may not have said that in the SCOTUS
but look at what has happened with SS under his watch:

No COLA
2% cut in funding from payroll checks.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:41 AM
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21. Obama is hopelessly captured by Wall Street and D.C. lobbyists.
Yes we can is now no, we can't.

We need a candidate who has enough experience not to care about Wall Street and D.C. We thought Obama's freshness would mean he could be independent, that he would not bind himself to the usual D.C. habit of giving it all away to the rich and taking it all from the poor and the middle class.

But, no. He has failed us.

We have to find someone who cares about Americans. Obama is not that person.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:40 AM
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47. What he will or might do isn't the issue, IMO.
To me, the issue is that there are millions of people in this country ALREADY in a similar position to Obama's mother. There are millions of people who have died in the last few years knowing that the treatment for their painful deaths were bankrupting their families.

Very little REAL progress has been made in helping working-class/working-poor/lower-middle-class people who are too young for the senior programs and make a little too much for the federal poverty level-based programs (which are based on an income level that equalled poverty in about 1975 as far as I can tell). Like Obama's mother would have been! No wonder the very idea of another step backward for the truly desperate is so horrifying -- those of us just one or two ladder rungs above "truly desperate" already know that if we get anything serious, we'd be much better off dying quickly before the bills get to high.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:17 AM
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8. Best wishes for you with hopes of a good recovery.
I am surprised that you would still believe that Obama is a man of character after what we have witnessed, yet I will grant you your optimism on the matter.

A man of character, in my opinion, (and even by some historical illustrations) would fight tooth and claw to fulfill his campaign promises, even if the system were against him and his family might be threatened by the powers that be. He would be a champion of the people and unrelenting in his firm resolve to stand by the issues that his character deemed noble, honorable and worthy for the many over the few. Even serving for a second term would be of no importance when it came to fighting the good fight for his people, every step of the way.

On the other hand, you have your titular head who does good public relations and fits in well with the system that groomed him. He takes the limelight and provides a smiling face for the machine. He gets the personality-related kudos and jeers, the love and the hatred, but it has little relation to what is actually accomplished. The titular head is assured comfort and has a future, the maverick who actually does bring change and the results of hope does not stand much of a chance of living through the term. That's the nature of the game.

Best of health to you! Above all, peace.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:22 AM
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11. Thank you.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:35 AM
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15. recommending for the good thought, and my very best wishes for you.

very little faith in our leaders on my end, though, sadly.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:39 AM
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19. Thank you for your good wishes. I will take all!!!
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:53 AM
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23. Sending best wishes & prayers your way
for a succesful recovery!
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:01 AM
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25. Thank you! I'm going to drink in all of these nice words and think about them as I fall asleep.

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:58 AM
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24. I'm so sorry
it is so wrong that someone who is fighting for their life should have to worry about medical bills. If anyone understands that Obama should, unfortunately he seems to have forgotten what his own mother went thru. :-(
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:10 AM
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26. As Hissyspit put it so well, it's just a personal appeal, with all of the talk out there
about program cuts.

I think it's good to revisit those impassioned words at this time.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:52 AM
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28. Ironic thing is none of those things helped his Mom.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:24 AM
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33. Hugs - a dear friend went through that too.
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 07:25 AM by ehrnst
Her father had died a lingering death fighting cancer years ago, and afterwards said that she would end it all herself rather than go through all that.

When she got ovarian cancer, she gave Chemo one round, and when the cancer returned, she decided to die at home in hospice. Her sister, a nurse, did most of the daily care.

She was still in agony, even with the morphine, and hated being fuzzy and not able to read. During a visit, I just asked her if she would like me to see if I could leave the all the morphine I could find within reach, so she could end it now.

She said that she was depending on life insurance to cover her medical bills, and that it wouldn't pay out if they even thought that she committed suicide.

So she endured that lingering painful death, because she didn't want to saddle her family with the bills. What a horrible choice.


My thoughts are with you.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:26 AM
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34. Good luck with your treatment
and your LIFE.

Both of my parents battled cancer....you can do it! Don't know if you believe, but my prayers are with you.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:21 AM
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35. Thank you. Yes, I'm a believer .
I really appreciate your prayers! It's been hard but I'm still here and plan to be here for a long time. :hug:

Going through this treatment has given me a big taste of what it feels like to be elderly. It's a shame that our government is willing to sacrifice the old and infirm.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 05:31 PM
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36. ...
:hug:
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:13 PM
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44. :)
:hug: thank you
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:18 AM
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49. I will be thinking of you and praying for best for you.
:hug:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 05:33 PM
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37. You must develop a bit more skepticism
Rather than believing things people say so easily.

You will be fine. Shame on the people trying to scare you.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 06:16 PM
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38. Sending positive thoughts your way, Raschel.
My oldest daughter is also going through breast cancer treatment, so I know how hard it is. My thoughts are with you.

:hug:

I also believe that President Obama is a man of character.

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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:01 PM
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41. Thank you. I can't imagine watching your daughter go through this.
From your post to me it seems that you are a compassionate, caring person and she is blessed to have you!

:hug:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:57 PM
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39. Many positive thoughts your way ...
worrying about the disease and then HC expenses on top sure does bring unneeded stress to our lives.

We recently spent 100 days at Hope Lodge in NYC after my husband's stem cell transplant for MDS/AML, having insurance does offer some options, but the out of pocket annual premiums do hurt.

Chin up, One foot in front of the other!

:hug:




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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:05 PM
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42. Sometimes it's both feet on the sofa! :)
It is one day at a time though, and I have learned to let a lot of things go and not to worry.

Best wishes to you and your husband.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:29 PM
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46. That is OK in moderation ...
but then sometimes you have to get moving, exercise can be good for the immune system and one's mental attitude.

Best of luck to you and thanks for the well wishes :)



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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:02 PM
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40. I'm on your side, want you well and not worrying about losing a single benefit
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:10 PM
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43. Wow. What sweet words those are.
Thank you, thank you, so much. I think I will print out all of these encouraging kind words and post them on my desk. :hug:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:13 PM
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45. This x 2,000,000 is why I'm hard on the Obama Dems
They say pretty words, grab power, and beat us like an Alanon wife. Unacceptable.

Not me, I'm done with 'em.
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