Prosser Campaign: Kloppenburg Should 'Avoid The Unnecessary Drama Of A Recount'

[kpete]

Source: Talking Points Memo

Prosser Campaign: Kloppenburg Should 'Avoid The Unnecessary Drama Of A Recount'
Eric Kleefeld | April 12, 2011, 5:19PM


The campaign of Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser is now saying that challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg should consider the heavy odds in a recount -- and that the margin shifts that occur in them are quite small.

As WisPolitics reports, Prosser's campaign released a statement pointing out that that the largest ever vote swing in a Wisconsin statewide recount has only been 489 votes. Prosser's current lead is over 7,000 votes. "History does not provide a rosy picture of recounts of a half a percent or less," said Prosser campaign spokesman Brian J. Nemoir. "While there may be a legal right to a recount, after a review of past‐results and consideration for the heavy burden upon the state, it is in the best interests of the state to have the common sense decision be made to avoid the unnecessary drama of a recount."

The Kloppenburg campaign did not immediately return TPM's request for comment.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/prosser-campaign-kloppenburg-should-avoid-the-unnecessary-drama-of-a-recount.php

[iwishiwas]

1. Late last week the Prosser folks they would do a recount for Waukesha

County. Now they are getting hardnosed and ugly about this.

[Tarheel_Dem]

2. So the thousands of votes that magically appeared for Prosser go unquestioned?

Considering the history of the election official who magically found these votes, I sure hope Kloppenberg will take this to it's natural conclusion.

[tanyev]

3. Methinks he would sing a very different song if it were the other way around.

[DCKit]

4. They always do this.

They know it won't stand up to any degree of scrutiny, and they're terrified.

[robinlynne]

18. Actually. It has worked . 2000 presidential eleciton, 2004 presidential election....

[DCKit]

48. You're not supposed to remember Robinyinne.... sleep... forget.. sleep, watch some American Idol. nt

[BlancheSplanchnik]

7. yep, same old script. They are total thugs.

Hate em.

[pacalo]

5. "Okay."

:rofl:

[think]

6. Prosser should avoid the unnecessary drama and just admit

that they stole the election.....

[DCKit]

49. They just did. Welcome to DU. nt

[Pharaoh]

8. Fuck You Prosser!

:nopity:

[nebenaube]

9. Eau Claire agrees! n/t

[LisaL]

10. And I am sure if he was behind, he' be only concerned

about "best interest of a state," right?

[sulphurdunn]

11. Recounts?

This isn't about recounts. It's about voter fraud. If Kloppenburg plays the recount card she's as dead as Al Gore in 2000. The answer is for Wisconsinites to deny the legitimacy of this electoral outcome and beat that drum 24/7 until a federal criminal investigation proves otherwise.

[aggiesal]

28. Actually, it's about ...

Election Fraud.

But I agree with your assessment.

[sulphurdunn]

40. Yes, election fraud.

I often get them confused.

[bluestateguy]

12. Kloppenberg won, so only Prosser can ask for a recount

nt

[valerief]

13. Uh, that's a drama we WANT. nt

[eowyn_of_rohan]

20. YOU SAID IT, Sister!

Bucky's Pissed

[Dont call me Shirley]

14. Hand recount the votes!

I knew that was going to happen. The criminals always repeat
their MO. Like I'm so sure the Koch/Prosser criminals
"found" 14,000 votes. Kathy Nicholaus must have
pulled them out of her constipated @ss. 
Hand recount the votes.

[Democracydiva]

16. Hand count the votes

all the precincts in her county...In fact the whole state should be recounted BY HAND.

[L. Coyote]

15. If there is a recount, recount Milwaukee County

That is where the outlier, anomalous red shift happened:

[daa]

17. That fuck should resign he has ZERO credibiltiy nt

[LaPera]

19. A recount is going to find all kinds of republican manipulations, cheating & usual bullshit all over

the state of Wisconsin, that's why the republicans don't want a recount.

So much republican purging & flipping will be exposed and the republicans want to be able to steal WI (and other states) in the 2012 presidential election.

Republicans know that all their dirty tricks will be available for all to see and what to look for in every state the slimy republicans are involved in.

Contribute now to WI Supreme Court Recount Fund - ActBlue

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/wiscourtrecount?refcode=twitter_Josephine_Balinghasay&skip_express=1

[Pharaoh]

22. We have to see the paper ballots

electronic votes don't mean shit, we have a paper trail (paper ballots)

If there are no paper ballots the votes don't count. I have not seen anyone produce them, let alone count them. WTF is going on!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

21. Nice 1-2 Punch today... They planned that nicely

First diminish the significance of what Nicklepuss did by having her reject the call for her resignation

Then this...

[spooky3]

23. If I'm confident I've won, I would welcome a recount. Wouldn't you?

It would take away any doubt that I'd won, show how fair-minded I am, etc. Win-win.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

24. "The Hands That Recount the Votes"...that's a drama I will pay to see over and over again and again.

[GreenTea]

25. If you can.....Contribute to Kloppenburg's WI Supreme Court Recount Fund. Via ActBlue

ActBlue

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/wiscourtrecount?refcode=twitter_Josephine_Balinghasay&skip_express=1#

[Scottybeamer70]

26. A drama queen.......

suggesting no drama??? :rofl:

[eowyn_of_rohan]

27. Prosser and Nickolaus - Zero Degrees Of Separation In Tawdry Wisconsin Politics

Why Prosser's home-town newspaper, the Appleton Post-Crescent, endorsed JoAnne Kloppenburg for Supreme Court, and not Prosser.
(worth a re-post today)
http://solidaritywisconsin.com/content/prosser-jensen-nickolaus-and-zero-degrees-separation-tawdry-wisconsin-politics

Said the Post-Crescent:

In 2006, Prosser said that while he was a legislative leader, staffers who worked under his direction did campaign work. (*one of his staffers was Kathy Nickolaus, who was granted immunity from prosecution for testifying in this case)

Here's a member of the highest court in Wisconsin, whose judges are expected to possess unimpeachable integrity, admitting he condoned illegal activity as an elected official.

In a brief filed by the attorney of former state Rep. Scott Jensen, a Prosser protege who was charged with three felony counts of misconduct in office (in a December 2010 plea deal, Jensen pleaded no-contest to a misdemeanor charge), Prosser said he basically did the same thing that caused Jensen to be charged.

In the brief, after outlining how his leadership role involved getting more Republicans elected to the Assembly, Prosser said:

"During my term as a legislator and as a speaker, there were caucus members and caucus directors who participated in activities including but not limited to the following: Campaign and political meetings in the Capitol office; assisting the speaker and the elected leadership by recruiting candidates; gathering voting lists and target lists; setting up, attending and staffing fundraisers; and assisting legislators in creating and implementing office plans."

Prosser's statement was presented in Jensen's defense. He's saying, as others said, that's the way business is done in Madison. That's what Jensen's job was about, too.

It's illegal. It was illegal when Prosser was in charge and it was illegal when Jensen was in charge.

In his statement, Prosser saw it differently. He said, "Every activity that could be characterized as a campaign activity can be conceivably construed to be an act that furthers the legislative process."

So, campaigns and legislative work are so intertwined that it's all part of the same process.
As a taxpayer, what do you think? Should your tax dollars, which were used to fund the caucuses until they were disbanded in the wake of a scandal, have gone toward campaigning?

Only someone who works — or worked — in the Capitol would think taxpayers would go for that.

Again, it was against the law. You'd think Prosser would acknowledge that, even if he didn't agree. But he told The P-C that "it was a different era and public expectations were quite different."

Prosser said that the law "had never been interpreted that way."
So, what do we do? Let bygones be bygones?

We can't. The Post-Crescent endorses JoAnne Kloppenburg.

(If I can't post this many paragraphs please let me know)

[Odin2005]

29. That's fucking rich, I remember how they bitched here in MN over Franken.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

32. Thank you for your voice of experience

This is weary-ing - if that is a word. UP down UP down

[Blacksheep214]

30. Eat shit and die!

I am so tired of Rethugs.

Is it time for a Civil War Redux? Not joking!

[peace frog]

31. Methinks Prosser is not confident of the outcome

of a full recount, so I say count every last g/d vote.

[Imagevision]

33. If there's a recount the scam will be revealed...

[Botany]

34. "Prosser's current lead is over 7,000 votes."

Which came as the result of Kathy Nickolaus who has a history of vote total manipulation who just happened to find those extra votes
in her own P.C.. Not only a recount but a through forensic analysis of the vote in Wisconsin is needed ASAP.

Not one fucking vote from Waukesha County should be counted unless it can be verified by a poll log or request for an absentee ballot.

[The Backlash Cometh]

35. Fuck you Prosser Campaign!

[Devil_Fish]

36. How do you re-count an E-Vote??? NT

[golfguru]

41. I think they have paper trails in WI n/t

[Devil_Fish]

37. Fix This Shit Now or welcome President Palin in 2012. NT

[Matariki]

38. ....

:grr: liar. cheater. thief.

[TxVietVet]

39. The conservanazis are being quiet 'cause it's might just blow up in their faces.

The Wisconsin AG, JB Van Hollen, won't put it hands on it. Of course, the first time Van Hollen on the platform of putting the whole Jim Doyle administration in the penitentary for being corrupt. I think he got one and it got thrown out because of his underhanded tactics. He also wailed about "massive vote fraud". The conservanazis are bound and determined to stop minority voting in Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha counties. Out of all the "massive vote fraud", I think he got one conviction of a woman voting when she shouldn't have.

So much for the Wisconsin AG doing anything against Gov. Wanker.

I'm praying this whole deal gets back to all the conservanazi operatives in the Wanker administration. :kick:

[proud patriot]

42. What a ass

[Zorra]

43. Translation from Fascistese: I'm afraid you'll figure out the fraud, so get it

over with before you figure out how I stole the election.

[bullwinkle428]

44. Hey, Prosser...save the DRAMA for your MAMA!!!

[plumbob]

45. Count every vote in the entire state.

And then send Prosser down here to Texas when he loses. We have the death penalty here, and we are not afraid to use it.

Election fraud/death penalty? Yep. It ruins the lives of millions, where an ordinary murderer just kills a few, affecting a few dozen. Proportionality, please.


I can't tell if I'm being sarcastic, myself.

[Kablooie]

46. Whoohoo! If they want to kill the recount that means they know they will lose it.

[fishwax]

47. yeah, that's convenient

:eyes:

[onethatcares]

50. sounds eerily like Floriduh 2000

but what do I know?