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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:04 AM
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Catholic group: "Children raped by priests were ‘homosexual’ participants-not victims"
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 09:08 AM by kpete
Catholic group claims children raped by priests were ‘homosexual’ participants, not victims

By David Edwards
Tuesday, April 12th, 2011 -- 2:31 pm


The anti-gay Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights is going on the attack against "those who are distorting the truth about priestly sexual abuse."

The group bought an expensive full-page ad in The New York Times Monday that places the blames for the church's scandals on "homosexuality, not pedophilia."

And perhaps most shockingly, it also claimed that some children were active participants in the abuse.

"The refrain that child rape is a reality in the Church is twice wrong: let’s get it straight -- they weren’t children and they weren’t raped," self-appointed Catholic League president Bill Donohue wrote in the ad.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/12/catholic-group-says-children-raped-by-priests-were-participants-not-victims/
http://www.catholicleague.org/nytstraighttalk.php


and, why did the NYT print it?????
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:05 AM
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1. Beyond contempt.
They were . . . CHILDREN!!!!
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:06 AM
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2. I would laugh hysterically if this wasn't serious stuff.
What in the hell are these people drinking/smoking/sniffing? WTF
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 04:25 AM
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22. Little boys. nt
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:08 AM
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3. As a person with family involved......
I would not want to ever meet one of these jerks face to face. I'm not quite sure I could hold my temper.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:10 AM
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4. That is low, even for the Catholic League.
Bill Donohue can go to hell.

The ultimate in delusional, revisionist, and apologist thinking.
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:17 AM
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9. Here's what I just wrote to him:
Mr. Donohue needs to get onto something productive. News flash: adults who molest children are pedophiles. Priests who molest boys are pedophiles. How would you explain that it's 'homosexuality' if a priest molests a girl?

STOP TRYING to pass the blame. The Church needs to own up to what's happened. And YOU need to stop spreading lies. A pedophile is a pedophile.

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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:35 AM
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13. I just read the full text.
The first thing that came to mind was the old saying that when you point a finger at someone, there are three pointing back at you.

He's spewing all the old crap that I thought had been debunked long ago:

* Teenagers and young adults are still vulnerable people, not only in terms of their sexual identities, but especially when it comes to authority figures. A lot of kids who grow up in the Catholic Church come to believe priests are God's right hands who can do no wrong, and they must be obeyed and respected no matter what. That is fertile ground for those in authority who would take advantage of such trust and faith.

* Some studies suggest that there have been just as many (if not more) girls and women abused by priests than boys and men. So, no, Bill, it's not all about the homosexuality.

* Churches in most states are exempt from the mandatory reporting statutes that apply to doctors, nurses, teachers, and whoever else has contact with kids and suspects child abuse. So, yes, Bill, there is zero tolerance in most other professions that deal with kids.

* The media -- including Leno, Maher, and whoever else Bill hates -- have every right to call out the Church on the heinous way it has handled this scandal from Day One. The Church is in no position here to cry about being treated unfairly, after it has ruined the lives of millions of young people and their families around the world by its continued arrogance and pride.

I could go on but I hope you sense my complete and total disgust at Church defenders like Donohue.





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BillStein Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:27 AM
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26. s/h/b "will"
as in he WILL go to hell...
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:10 AM
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5. Now I'm starting to wonder if Donohue has a few skeletons in his own closet.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:51 AM
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31. I wonder that too because...
that's too close to the excuse molesters give when they're found out.

The ones who don't outright deny it or pretend that it was all a big misunderstanding, that is.





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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 04:47 PM
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33. Yes, it immediately reminded me of a local news story where the child abductor
was eventually arrested. He either talked to the media or some of his conversation with police was made public. He had first taken the little girl (6 yrs old or so?) to a roadside cafe to get something to eat and he was talking about how he could tell while they were eating that "she wanted it". Horrifying.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:10 AM
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6. Wow. Religious hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:11 AM
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7. k&r
I'm speechless.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:13 AM
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the catholic church is the oldest criminal organization in history
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:13 AM
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8. I knew it had to be Donohue
just from reading the subject line.

That man is 100 gallons of runny, parasite-ridden shit in a 10 gallon bag.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:21 AM
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10. that would be me. And I will guaran-goddamn-tee you
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 09:21 AM by rurallib
that I was no willing participant.
please come to my house, Mr. Donohue, so we can "discuss" it.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:21 AM
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11. To the extent these opinions are representative of Catholics generally,
and they do represent some portion, it just shows how some of the dogma of the church lead to psychopathology in adults, and dysfunctional coping behaviors. Just MO.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:33 AM
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12. Funny, by any definition I know, a 12 year old altar boy is a child.
I wonder if the reason Bill Donohue is so full of hate is because HE was raped by a priest as a boy, and was convinced it was HIS fault.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:45 AM
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14. somehow, I think he was the one doing it as an adult.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:46 AM
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15. why did the nyt print it?? that was my first question as well. time to yell at them again, I see
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:49 AM
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18. I am sure it was a purchased ad
like those from the insane fascist/reichwing "legal" group that show up on the opinion page every so often.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:51 AM
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19. yes, it was an ad. that doesn't mean the nyt had to accept it.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:43 AM
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24. They needed the money. Look at it this way, the next day the NYT ran an article
documenting the facts of pedophilia within the Catholic Church - so the money went to good use.

The NYT has been losing money for quite a while, so they will take any revenue that they can get.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:52 AM
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16. They were asking for it.
That defense still works?
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:56 AM
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17. Another great article from "The Onion."
No wait...
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:24 PM
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20. And the Catholic church authorities do nothing to dissociate from Donohue

Because they agree with him.

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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:41 PM
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21. just another reason i am happy to be raised a prot
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:57 AM
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32. I can see your point...
being raised Protestant won't expose you to child molester priests, but there are as many, or more, child molesters within the Protestant church.

Like my child molester brother-in-law, a Fundy Christian, who used his religion to molest little girls, my daughter being one of them.

So now we all know not to trust Catholic priests, but the others are still out there lurking...the "family man" types with wives and kids.

Good God-fearing Christian church-goers... :eyes:



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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:35 AM
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23. Typical
Any time children are raped, the Roman Catholics find a way to spin the issue, and blame it on the gays. Dishusting. May God forgive them, because I can't be bothered with forgiving them anymore. This is inexcusable.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:08 AM
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25. Donohue is an evil POS.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:29 AM
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27. I try to be nonviolent,
but some people desrve to be held down and tickled until they wet their trousers.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:35 AM
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28. So what does Donohue make of the nearly 20% of the cases where priests molested little girls?
Is it still a problem for the gay community, Bill?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:43 AM
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29. Meanwhile,
their once-powerful church is fast becoming a footnote in history as it shrinks smaller and smaller into nothingness. Could this ancient, incestuous, misogynistic organization be more irrelevant in the 21st century?
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:48 AM
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30. "Children" Considered Sexual "Participants" By Religious Men
.
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