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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:14 PM
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Don't want to sound like a broken record, but Progressives are missing a golden opportunity
Look, nobody wants to see the country default on its debts by failing to raise the debt ceiling, but isn't it time to SHIFT THE DEBATE AWAY FROM SPENDING CUTS TO DISCRETIONARY SPENDING?. Discretionary spending, BTW, that overwhelmingly helps and benefits Middle Class and Working Poor Americans!!

If the Progressives were smart, they would tie any increase in the debt ceiling to a repeal of the Bush Tax Cuts for the top 5% of wealthy Americans!

It's a "win-win" bargaining position. Not only do you shift the debate away from "what programs do we cut", to "it's time that we paid our debt by increasing revenue"...BUT...it also puts the Repubs in a box by making them "threaten financial ruin for the country to preserve tax breaks for the wealthy that are bankrupting the country".

How about we put these ass-pickles on the defensive for once?

It's a perfect argument to have: "We have to increase the debt ceiling, but in order to do that, we are going to require more from the folks that have seen their percentage of wealth "quadrupple" over the past 30 years at the expense of everyone else".

Just think of the prospect of the Koch brothers begging Boehner for a 3-5% raise in their tax-rate to ensure their protfolio doesn't tank!

Oh, and just another side-benefit is that 81% OF AMERICANS FAVOR ENDING THE BUSH TAX-CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY OVER ANY CUTS IN SPENDING.

Sure, you would have a few Tea-bag idiots that would cheer not raising the debt limit, but this approach might be what it takes to FORCE THE MODERATE/SANE REPUBLICANS OUT OF THE CLOSET.

It may seem drastic, but if we aren't prepared to be bold, we'll never stop hearing about how "courageous" that punk-ass Ryan is for stealing grandma's crutches.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:19 PM
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1. Progressives aren't "missing a golden opportunity". Obama subverted it. n/t
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:32 PM
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2. Which progressives, the rich ones who control everything?
Yeah, I think they like the way this is headed.

Time to stop thinking left/right and start thinking top/bottom.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:36 PM
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3. 'Time to stop thinking left/right and start thinking top/bottom'
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 12:38 PM by Angry Dragon
To do that the sane left/right are going to have to work together
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:52 PM
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5. That's where we're at a disadvantage. The top left/right all know each other.
They know they've both got an important job to do in protecting their club.

The bottom/right thinks they're in the club. And the bottom/left thinks the top/left is fighting the club right with us. Until we can untangle this somehow, working against the top-controlled media, the top 1% will always have the advantage.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:50 PM
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4. You nail it however so many people don't want to imagine themselves as bottom.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 02:00 PM
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6. I don't know how many times
I've heard people say that taxes need to be kept low so that when they are rich, the government won't take so much of their money.

:wtf:
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