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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:30 PM
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Milton Friedman: Wealthy people do NOT INFLUENCE POLITICIANS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uBOXVEmcD4&feature=related

This is from Jamie Johnson's 2006 documentary "The One Percent"

At 5:20 Johnson asks Friedman about the influences the wealthy have on politicians and the process of making laws.
Milton at 5:30 says that they do not.
:wtf:

Milton Friedman is either a liar, delusional, or both.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:32 PM
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1. I'd say BOTH n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:32 PM
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2. Maybe the PEOPLE don't but their MONEY sure as fuck does! nt
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:48 PM
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15. And the Supreme Court said their money talks! And has rights! And has freedom!
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 09:49 PM by calimary
And can keep secrets!

milton friedman obviously hates America. And he's a selfish, shortsighted, cheapskate UN-Christian, UN-American, treasonous, traitorous prick.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:33 PM
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3. milton friedman
was buried the same way he lived; with his head up his butt. The man is lionized by the greedy and the stupid, and his 'economics' left us with what we currently have.
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ironrooster Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:33 PM
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4. if the comment is not taken out of context - it is very clearly a lie /nt
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:34 PM
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5. No they don't influence - they just flat out give the orders. n/t
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:37 PM
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6. Oh. Well then they shouldn't mind if . . .
. . . we go to a system of public financing of all campaigns, and the abolition of private campaign contributions altogether!
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:37 PM
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7. No many of them actually write the laws.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:38 PM
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8. He believed in the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and
Santa Claus too, no doubt, or he is a liar or very delusional. He used to be considered a fringe wacko sort of like Pat Buchanan back when he first emerged on the scene. His theories have caused immeasurable damage to this country as well as others in the last three decades when the global industrial and billionaires' clubs started giving him credibility.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:40 PM
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9. He's a lying son of a b*tch ...I hope he rots in hell.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:44 PM
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10. Right. They just buy them instead.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:45 PM
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11. The economic advisor to General Pinochet
HE should have been tried as a war criminal for what he helped the Chilean Junta do
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:47 PM
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13. Oh but to Milton
That was just an unfortunate biproduct. He can't be blamed don't you know.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:47 PM
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12. Of course not
And I'm Marie of Roumania.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:48 PM
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14. Dear Mr. Friedman:
Are you fucking kidding me? That is all.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:53 PM
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16. He's dead! As are his theories; they don't work.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:55 PM
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17. He should see a doctor
About that rainbow streaming out of his butt.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:57 PM
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18. Free Markteer flicks "I-Don't-Give-A-Switch"
He lost the plot long ago. His wife -Adrea Mitchell on MSNBC- draw your own conclusions.
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Siouxmealso Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:18 PM
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21. You're thinking of Allen Greenspan
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:00 PM
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29. true - you're right
I do remember seeing Milton do his special on PBS and was wondering, at the time, if he might be right - he won a Nobel prize after all! And that was before the neocons started ruining PBS.

Then I read Galbraith's 'The Good Society' and knew better. Those two are cut from the same cloth IMHO.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:04 PM
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19. Really Milton, I belive you, but now I have to go feed the unicorn
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I Drink Water Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:13 PM
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20. Wow, talk about delusion.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:45 PM
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22. They buy them!!!!!!!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:47 PM
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23. He was a big fat liar.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:50 PM
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24. What a lying asshole
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 11:04 PM by somone
Typical U. of Chicago RW douchebag.

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:55 PM
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25. The application of his own neo-classical economic theories to politics show how it does, actually
Rational actor models for politicians are based on Friedman's rational consumer models, but in the case of politicians they are trying to make choices that will lead to them staying in office as long as possible rather than making choices about what good to purchase that will make them the happiest. The obvious conclusion one draws from these models is that politicians will trade votes for campaign cash if doing so will get them re-elected.

So unless Milton Friedman wants to argue that cash is not highly correlated with electoral success (and studies have shown that the two are in fact highly correlated), then his own logic kind of defeats him.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:58 PM
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26. Uh, both. ANYBODY can see that they buy influence..........
so denying it makes him a liar. And his belief in supply side, unregulated capitalism as a economic system makes him delusional.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:59 PM
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27. Breaking news : Bears don't shit in the woods, and the Pope is a Muslin!!1!
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 11:00 PM
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28. Stake through heart needed
as I have no confidence that bloodsucker Friedman still won't rise from the grave.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:47 AM
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30. Let's see, the father of our current political based economy
and conservative ideology to serve corporations says the rich do not influence politicians. Is he trying to say he isn't rich?
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:46 AM
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31. Delusional fits
The problem is that the delusion has only grown stronger in his absence.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:03 AM
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32. He was WRONG about just about everything so this statement should come as no surprise.
GOP doctrine based on this man's "theories" will be the end of our country is left to continue.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:23 AM
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37. The worst of it is that his theories are now labelled
"The Washington Concensus." This lunatic fringer has become the norm in Washington and elsewhere.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:08 AM
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33. Both. nt
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:11 AM
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34. 2 recessions in ONE presidency.
In addition to the others in three decades. Boom-BUBBLE-CRASH! Boom-BUBBLE-CRASH! Boom-BUBBLE-CRASH!

Over . . . and over . . . and over . . . again.

Speaks VOLUMES of the success of Friedman Laissez-Fail economics, doesn't it?

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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:15 AM
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35. Here is who they are fighting for
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:16 AM
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36. He was the enabler and tool of the uber rich.
He made up the "free" market crap to justify the existence and psychopathic behavior of the uber rich. So, when he said no he was just covering for them.
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