Dem pollster predicts GOP Medicare proposal will 'sink' Republicans

[cal04]

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/medicare/156409-liberal-pollster-predicts-ryan-medicare-proposal-will-qsinkq-the-gop

The Republican budget the House passed on Friday holds great promise for Democrats because of voters' strong opposition to its Medicare reforms, according to a new poll for liberal organizations.

The poll, conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner for the Campaign for America's Future (CAF) and Democracy Corps, found that the GOP budget only garnered 48 percent support when it was described simply as a 10-year plan to cut spending $6.2 trillion "below the president's budget." When its effects on Medicare are more critically explained, however, support falls to 36 percent.

"The budget opens up a fundamental debate about values that could end up defining Republicans in the public mind and allowing Democrats to draw sharp differences and regain their standing on the economy and spending priorities and advocacy for the middle class," Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg and Robert Borosage of CAF said in a memo to supporters.

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After pollsters tell respondents they'll have to pay for healthcare coverage under the GOP plan — as the Congressional Budget Office has confirmed — 66 percent say they have "serious doubts" about the proposal.

[opihimoimoi]

1. Their zealousness will be their downfall...emotional thinking is so passe

Reason will soon prevail...

[Pryderi]

9. You're wrong. People act on their emotion not their reason. Dems need to aim for the heart with

messaging, not the head.

[opihimoimoi]

14. Emotional Leaders often have poor records in governing...Pragmatic ones fare better

[Scuba]

18. Yes, but emotional pols get so many more chances in office than pragmatic ones....

...to get elected, we need simple, emotional messages. Like...

Medicare for All

[Pryderi]

21. Right! Campaign from the heart, govern from the head.

[Cal33]

17. I agree with you, the majority of people are more prone to act on

their emotions. And a second important thing to do is to repeat, repeat and repeat
the message ad infinitum. The Pubs. are past-masters at this, and they have been
exceedingly successful. Anything repeated often enough becomes accepted by an
unexpectedly large percentage of the population -- even the most blatant and
transparent lies.

[opihimoimoi]

19. This is why we are in twoubles nationally....emotion allows for fantasy

and Hate

[eridani]

2. Only if Dems play effective defense, which we must constatnly remind them to do n/t

[bobbolink]

6. I disgree. Its OFFENSE time!

[eridani]

23. It is a fact of human psychology that people react far more strongly to the prospect of losing--

--something than to the prospect of gaining something. Look at Wisconsin--people poured into the streets over the prospect of losing collective bargaining. Tryint to get them to do the same to get the Employee Free Choice Act passed just didn't work.

[Wounded Bear]

7. I think that would qualify as "offense" and I'm all for it....nt

:)

[bluestate10]

3. Democratic pollsters need to stop predicting and get their asses out

there and make it happen.

[mrcheerful]

4. It won't mak tea baggers happy remember they demanded

that government keep their hands off their medicare. I wonder how many are regretting voting for Ryan, stupid nit wits.

[RKP5637]

12. I'm convinced most teabaggers aren't bright enough to understand what is happening.

[Wounded Bear]

5. We can hope...but we still have work to do.....

We need to keep reminding people that this is what Con-servs do.

[kentuck]

8. End Medicare and another taxcut for the wealthy....

..adding to our deficit.

They say they are going to close loopholes but....they can't close the loopholes unless Medicare is ended and the top taxrate is changed to 25%.

That's a real winner assholes!

Now, we can only hope the Republicans in the Senate agree with you...

[RKP5637]

13. Sadly many teabaggers think this will contribute to money in their pocket. These

people are so F'en dumb it's difficult to imagine they are capable of anything except trying to sink the country with them.

[sasha031]

10. This is from Charlie Cook

The Cook Report: Death Wish?
Republicans pushing to revamp Medicare could find themselves voted out of office in the next election.

One of the biggest and most frequent mistakes in politics is for a party to misread its mandate. When it happens, independent and swing voters get angry and punish a candidate or a party on Election Day. Because American politics is a zero-sum game, punishing one party means rewarding the other party—even when the latter is not necessarily deserving of support. Frequently, the party that benefits from the spanking mistakenly interprets it to mean that the public is embracing every aspect of its agenda. Republicans shouldn’t forget that their party had dismal favorable/unfavorable poll ratings last fall. They won because they weren’t Democrats.
There is no question that the Republican base, conservatives, and supporters of the tea party want to take a meat ax to government spending. When Republican congressional members return home and meet with their constituents, they are encouraged to vote against continuing resolutions and for deep spending cuts. These supporters have intensity, and they adamantly oppose any compromise with Democrats.
It would be a blunder, however, to think that such views drove the election. Republicans, conservatives, and tea partiers did not throw Republicans out of their House and Senate majorities in 2006, and they did not vote to increase the size of the Democratic majorities and elect Barack Obama president in 2008.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/cook-report/the-cook-report-gop-may-be-misreading-its-mandate-on-medicare-20110407

[cal04]

15. thank you sasha031

for the link
:hi:

[sasha031]

16. your welcome my friend

:pals:

[City Lights]

11. May it sink them forever.

:fingerscrossed:

[Zephie]

20. You'd really think so, but...

The ability of people to vote against their own interests and then laud themselves for it has truly thrown me for a loop lately. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually get a BOOST from this nightmare, as the American people happily skip down the road to ruin. It's mind boggling. :(

[Bozita]

22. The candle burns brightest just before it goes out.

Think of the GOP as just such a candle, but one that sheds no light.

Ever!