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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:47 AM Original message |
Groundwater radiation level at nuke plant rises: TEPCO + Japan may move capital from Tokyo |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Note to TEPCO: |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. I'm waiting for Level 8 to be declared |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Cue the apologists |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. +1 |
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northoftheborder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Moving the government from Tokyo is drastic. Much being hidden from the world. |
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mysterysoup (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. They've been talking about moving the capital since 1990 |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. They were talking about moving the capital before that |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. They are talking about moving the capital BECAUSE OF the radiation threat |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Is it an established fact that they are talking abt moving capital due to radiation threat? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 01:06 AM Response to Reply #61 |
75. The source is the article!! "Earthquakes continue and RADIATION levels near Tokyo are rising" -- |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Um, radiation levels in Tokyo are back to normal |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Radioactivity rises in sea off Japan nuclear plant |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #75 |
88. OK....so now any "media source" will do, even if the actual facts don't support article. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. You mean they didn't increase evacuation to 50 miles? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. As a matter of fact, Japan didn't increase evac zone to 50 mi. & you're the one not getting it: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Global Warming causing more earthquakes is not "speculation" -- |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Do you have any idea of the logistics involved |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. You mean the logistics involved in saving human lives? |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. You do understand that no Fukushima resident has been killed |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. "A committee of the National Land Agency worked to select three final regions for the capital" |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
54. It's the same as putting a luminous watch on a banana. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
55. I am not an apologist, but I am in Japan |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
86. Do you understand that earthquakes will be increasing in number and severity? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Actually, unsurprisingly, that's not the case. Over time aftershocks from a major quake |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. No -- Global Warming is bringing increased earthquakes and increasing severity of them ... |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. Of course the culmulative total of aftershock earthquakes increases over time! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. As they say, "You can't wake up a man pretending to be asleep" -- |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 03:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
80. "Anyone with a brain". LOL |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:45 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. No, you don't understand |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. The stupid is strong in this OP. nt |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. When I saw the credulity in this thread I wanted to use that quote from "Aliens".... |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
87. They're headed this way you can bet on it |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. a population over 50 000 ? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. They want to move the gov't peeps, the commoners on their own. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. move the official seat of government, not the entire metro area, which is 36 million, not 10 million |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Yah. Because they'd stay after the gov't evacuates. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. think back to WWI, the French government evacuated from Paris to Bordeaux, but most of Paris stayed |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Really? What did their geiger counters say? |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 05:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. More likely physical damage to their children. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
56. The geiger counters in Tokyo say NEARLY NORMAL LEVELS |
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ChibaResident (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
102. I have seen the same, Art. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 06:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
53. As a matter of fact, the people in Tokyo will stay. |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. After the last earthquake a few days ago, TEPCO very quickly said that the quake did not further |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. When their lips are moving n/t |
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subterranean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. They aren't going to move the capital. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Well, yes there is. |
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subterranean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I am aware of that. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. They Need To Make Those Plans Now of Course |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. I think it will go nowhere because it would trigger the mass evacuation of Tokyo. |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. No, I think they are considering this BECAUSE people will evacuate Tokyo on their own. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Just like moving the capital to Brasilia |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. They Didn't Have a Nuclear Reactor (or 6) Melting Down Before |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:29 PM Original message |
Dupe. nt |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
25. where is it duped? I posted it >3 hours ago,within 45 minutes of Kyodo's(notice the April 15th date) |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. I accidently double posted - nothing you did. See my post above. nt |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. ahhhh, so sorry too, I should have follow the convo, cheers! |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm confused. Just exactly is TEPCO's definition of groundwater? |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Wikipedia is your friend |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. After mulling over thoughts, I did just that. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. If ground water is contaminated to the pioint they need to move Tokyi |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I was shamed for hyperbole in an earlier thread when dared to mention the word 'uninhabitable'. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. LOL |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Seriously, |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. It may be that the foreign diplomats are already leaving or gone.... |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
52. Radiation in Tokyo returns to pre-disaster level - Mainichi Daily News, April 14 |
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Nitram (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
13. doubtful accuracy |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. THANK YOU. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. ITAR-TASS, the chief news agency of Russia, is the sourcing origin for the Sofia news bureau |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Which means.......? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
63. Can't find this alleged story on TASS' English website. One would think this is big news. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ABANDONING TOKYO. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. They're not talking about abandoning Tokyo, just moving the seat of the government. nt. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Right. Because no one would be likely to follow their example. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. I don't disagree. But it's hyperbole to say "they're abandoning Tokyo". nt. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 04:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
49. Allegedly per TASS & Bulgarian media, but strangely, this is not in Japan's media or |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Hello Garbo |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Howdy! I'd imagine the constant quakes are nerve wracking. Plus natural fears abt what's going on & |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Reading some of these wild discussions |
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Chris_Texas (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
20. No. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
31. Wonder if all the bulldozed radioactive material might be contributing to |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. yes what is the deal with these fires |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I don't know what to make of that fire |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 04:48 AM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Battery fire that happened earlier this week. Another pic from area afterwards here: |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Thanks. That helps to explain it |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. I dunno. Were they connected to something? Shorted? Chemicals? Seems just one big |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. True that |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 02:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
76. Nothing odd about it |
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Arrowhead2k1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
40. The second story is BS. Makes no sense. nt |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. More lies from anti-nuke hippie communist environmentalist wackos. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
100. Sanity is a threat to the nuclear power industry -- !!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. k |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
46. Excuse me... I have to use the Vomitorium again. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Vomitoriums are a myth, based on faulty Latin translation(they're exits in theatres,not vomit areas) |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. Speaking of that |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
66. I see a lot of confusion over the second story. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Maybe the second story is a completely bogus fabrication, without foundation. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 03:16 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. It could be that too. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 03:49 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. This is clearly what SOME people WANT to believe. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Looks like some folks will actually be disappointed if Japan doesn't become some vast |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
68. Now this REALLY seems like science fiction |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
74. k |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
78. ALIENS LAND IN OKLAHOMA would be equally believable. |
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redwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Hey The Bulgarians have never lied to me before! |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
94. Why not move Japan's Capital to Detroit? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
96. This is a really bad post...first, only one article should be posted in the title |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 02:56 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. +100 |
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