white_wolf
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Sun Apr-17-11 10:33 PM
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So which is worse Mein Kampf or Atlas Shrugged? In terms of philosophy, ideas, and writing?
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Sun Apr-17-11 10:35 PM
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1. Or maybe Scott Brown's book..My Strugg...er...Against all Odds. sry. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 10:36 PM by Magron
Honestly, I'd have to say it's a wash. They've both spawned evil.
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Sun Apr-17-11 10:40 PM
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2. Tough one. In sheer numbers of dead and dying, I'd put my money on Atlas Shrugged. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 10:41 PM by readmoreoften
But there is a special kind of monstrosity of fascism that makes it difficult to surpass.
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Sun Apr-17-11 10:40 PM
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Mein Kampf was a political document that required brute force to be implemented (thankfully the Nazi's failed).
Atlas Shrugged was a work of fiction that has had a 50+ year corrosive effect on our entire political system.
The Nazi's only threatened us for 10 years or so, Rand's work continues to threaten us to this day.
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Magron
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Sun Apr-17-11 10:42 PM
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4. Seriously? I have to go with Atlas |
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Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 10:43 PM by Magron
Germany was predestroyed by the Treaty of Versailles and was a tragedy that had to happen. Atlas is one of the tools being used to destroy a country that didn't have to go down.
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Sun Apr-17-11 10:44 PM
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5. "Atlas Shrugged" is the kind of book that LEADS to books like "Mein Kampf" |
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When you put forth ideas like, "Self-interest is the highest morality", and "One class of people are productive innovators and that those innovators are held back/dirtied/tainted by a stealthy, bureaucratic, parasitic lower class", you lead people to start LOOKING for those "parasites"...and to try and eliminate them.
Hitler would have done what he did whether he'd written "Mein Kampf" or not. He was racist and xenophobic to the core, and the act of writing down his insane internal dialogue was just a recording of something that was already there. "Mein Kampf" didn't lead to anyone's death; Hitler, the man, did. But "Atlas Shrugged"? I honestly shudder to think about how many people have died because Ayn Rand decided to write a book that held up sociopathy as moral--and not just moral, but the ONLY true morality. It influenced thousands and thousands of wealthy people and wannabe-wealthy people who then took those ideas and tried to destroy our institutions of human compassion. In many cases they succeeded.
How many wars have been waged because people who followed Rand's philosophy came into power? How many millions and millions of people have starved, suffered, or died as a result of the simple idea that altruism is a moral evil? The stirs and echoes of Rand's toxic miasma of a philosophy stretch out down the decades...and they haven't stopped yet.
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Sun Apr-17-11 10:47 PM
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6. Both authors hated communism, both had an idea of a superman/uberman, |
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both had fanatical missionary zeal, bothwere crappy writers and both appeal to an adolescent male mentality.
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Sun Apr-17-11 11:10 PM
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7. Some of the above posters summed up my feelings very well. |
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Mein Kampf is a hateful vile book, but it had little real impact outside Nazi German and Hitler would have gained power had he wrote it or not. Atlas Shrugged is an acid eating away at the moral and legal foundations of Republic. It has became the Bible for a radical and dangerous sect whose ideal is greed and God is money. We defeated the Nazis and despite the 13,000 neo-nazi groups in America today, they are at this time, no longer, a true threat to the Republic. However, we have not defeated the Objectivists and if we do not defeat them, they will defeat us.
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Mon Apr-18-11 04:22 AM
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8. From within-and probably not have to fire one bullet. |
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the government is infested with them
Too many naive people who feel the need to 'belong' to something are manipulated into
thinking the ones who are in control-will give them 'preferential treatment'somehow;
They continue to vote these assclowns in and support them.Our only hope is to try and make
them see were all in the same boat.Those folks dont give a shit about ANY of us.The sooner
the better.BUT HOW !?! I have had more than a few:wtf: moments.
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