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franzia99 Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:28 AM
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You know companies have their PR people troll websites and support them right?
There are companies that pay people to troll websites like internet message boards and pretend to be regular folk supporting their cause. I saw this exposed on another website, so just wanted to bring it to everyone's attention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Astroturfing is a form of propaganda whose techniques usually consist of a few people attempting to give the impression that mass numbers of enthusiasts advocate some specific cause. In the UK this technique is better known as "rent-a-crowd" after the successful "rent-a-crate" business.

Lifestyle Lift was charged a $300,000 penalty by the State of New York for anonymous positive reviews about the company in Internet message boards and other Web sites<73>

In 2010 the organization "BalancedCopyright for Canada" made use of blogs, Facebook and Twitter in an Astroturfing effort to influence the adoption of Bill C-32, Canada's "Digital Economy Strategy" by making it appear the bill had widespread public appeal.<79>

In 2011 it was revealed that HBGary Federal was contracted by the U.S. government to develop astroturfing software to manipulate and sway public opinion on controversial issues. This software could also scan for people with points of view the powers-that-be didn't like and then have the "fake" profiles attempt to discredit those "real" people.<80>
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:31 AM
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1. Unfortunately even our own government does it.
I think that should be illegal.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:31 AM
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2. Politicians do too!
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:33 AM
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3. LOL. You don't say. nf
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:41 AM
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4. sadly, this sort of crap has been going on for ages by both sides
I remember a protest we had against the Vietnam War at Deloris Park in San Francisco. The protest promoters kept telling us that the Greatful Dead were comming. Well, the Greatful Dead probably never heard of us and were definatly NOT comming but there you were.

Sorry, you have to use your brain to filter out the bullshit.
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:25 PM
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18. Sounds like you don't understand the point of the OP
since I see nothing similar in your anecdote, and the false equivalence thing really irks.

The astro-turfing efforts of corporations and their minions is not balanced by an equal and similar army of phony anti-corporatist post-bots imposing their socialist agenda on everyone. So I don't get the "both sides do it" thing here at all.

Also, it's Grateful Dead, maybe you've heard of them, at least spell their name right, geez.
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:28 PM
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19. Too late to edit, but sarcasm?
edited to add:
Oh man, did I miss an implied sarcasm tag in your post (OffWithYourHead)? If so I apologize, still not sure though.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:51 PM
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22. Yeah, that's the problem with this type of communication.
A simple thought can be interpreted so many ways when you can't hear the voice inflections or see the facial expressions.
Peace
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:17 PM
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27. OK
I've seen posts more ridiculous than this that weren't sarcasm, so some way to distinguish the two would be nice. No worries though, I'll try to remember you handle to avoid the mistake, should be easy enough.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:28 PM
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29. That would be "your handle" not you handle. Just sayin
Typing on an i-pad is a bitch.

So,
We are at peace?
Bud
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:44 PM
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30. Absolutely! nt
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:48 PM
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21. My, aren't you the little scold.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:41 AM
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5. You mean all those folks weren't just real happy with their Toyotas?
;-)
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999998th word Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 02:54 AM
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7. And A.L.E.C. +AFP +++have a staff of PR hired specifically to scrub Wiki..
for what its worth.Clean up the Koch bros rep.,skew references re: left wing issues etc...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:43 AM
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:03 AM
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8. Ah yep
Sure seems that way to me too
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:23 AM
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9. Apple© would never do such a thing.
Apple© only wants you to be happy.

Now watch the angry birdie...
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:27 AM
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15. Microsoft too
just go to one of their forums
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:27 AM
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10. Drink a Pepsi. Relax. Its not as bad as you think.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:04 PM
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25. Drink a Coke.
Nazis and child molesters prefer Pepsi.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:16 PM
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26. Real Americans drink RC Cola
Nonoe of that commie stuff :P
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:35 PM
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28. Scientists have shown that RC Cola results in 30% more spelling errors by those who drink it.
That, and the testicle withering in male consumers.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:14 AM
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11. Imagine a world
where people were not so desperate for approval, belonging, identification, that they refused to sign up for any of this shit.

You'd pick the trolls because they would be the only ones spending their onlife life shilling....
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:41 AM
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12. Funny that Name Removed would post on this thread. n/t
:rofl:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:24 AM
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13. K&R. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:26 AM
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14. oh yeah.... you can usually tell who they are
the smart ones try to blend in.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:27 AM
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16. the nuclear industry had several people here on d.u. defending all thing nuclear
right after fukishima....then they all magically disappeared
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:36 AM
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17. Yes. Unfortunately, it's a suckers market and some people buy into their conservative crap. nt
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:37 PM
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20. The PR trolls don't last long here at DU from what I see.
They get called on it all the time. And good for us.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:53 PM
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23. And, importantly, it gives us someone to blame for an opinion we don't agree with! eom
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:53 PM
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24. I bet there are several here defending Obama's corporatist policies.
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