"With his father’s passing, young Paul Ryan collected Social Security benefits until age 18"

[kpete]

Ryan was raised as a fifth-generation Janesville resident. His father practiced law in the same building as future U.S. Senator Russ Feingold’s father. To differentiate Young Paul from Paul Sr., Ryan was nicknamed “P.D.” People often mistook this moniker for “Petey,” which caused Paul to recoil.

One day as a 16 year old, Ryan came upon the lifeless body of his father. Paul Ryan, Sr. had died of a heart attack at age 55, leaving the Janesville Craig High School 10th grader, his three older brothers and sisters and his mother alone. It was Paul who told the family of his father’s death.

With his father’s passing, young Paul collected Social Security benefits until age 18, which he put away for college. To make ends meet, Paul’s mother returned to school to study interior design. His siblings were off at college. Ryan remembers this difficult time bringing him and his mother closer.

Within months, Paul’s maternal grandmother moved into the house. She suffered from Alzheimer’s, and it often fell on young Paul to care for her, including brushing and braiding her hair. Ryan credits his father’s death and the care of his grandmother as giving him first-hand experience as to how social service programs work.

the rest:
http://www.wpri.org/WIInterest/Vol19No2/Schneider19.2.html

[rufus dog]

1. I would think he got the SS benefit through college

I believe until he was 23.

[notadmblnd]

3. Back then he might have...

It's different now though. They cut the kids off at 18 or graduate high school.

[rufus dog]

5. He is a bit younger than me

But I collected SS benefits in College when I became eligible due to my fathers age.

[William769]

18. I did too.

But check this out.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/282/session/L3RpbWUvMTMwMzI3NDQ2MC9zaWQvQ2MyVUFXcms%3D

[joshcryer]

8. 16 now I thought, if not in school.

[Mnemosyne]

24. No, 18, recent experience. n/t

[onehandle]

11. Reagan cut those benefits back. nt

[Snoutport]

16. In 1982

If you weren't enrolled in college by the end of the school year (may or june of 1982) you did not get benefits. If you were enrolled in college it meant the next year you would get 75%, then 50% and then 25%. I think. That was my senior year of high school and dad was disabled. I ended up taking night classes my senior year of high school so I could keep some of the benefits through college.

Let me tell you, it REALLY sucked to be working 30 hours a week and going to both high school and college full time. But without the benefits college was going to be tough to afford.

[onehandle]

20. Yep.

I was right there with you.

[Control-Z]

23. They took my benefits away

when I added a third night of work while attending college. Even though it was barely enough to get by when added to my benefits, they said I made too much.

[Patiod]

29. My SO lost his dad, and had to drop out just short of graduation

Like you, he then had to work 3-4 jobs, and finally had to leave school, because even 75% of college tuition isn't really feasible on bellhop/pizza delivery guy/orderly/theater-light-hanger salaries.

Thank you, St. Ronnie.

[Riley18]

68. Another Reagan cut for middle class. I never even knew

until my kids got the checks until they were 18 unless they were still in high school.

[demosincebirth]

21. Until 18 years old...thats it.

[mysuzuki2]

31. how old is Ryan?

SS benefits for college students were phased out in the mid 1980s.

[undeterred]

37. He is 42.

My roommate's father died while she was in college, around 1978, and she collected, graduated in 1980.

[toppertwot]

39. SS through college

President Reagan changed the Social Security law so the money was cut off at age 18. This was part of the Reagan program to get the government off of your back. You know, another Republican deal!

[CottonBear]

46. See post #44. Ironically, my dad campaigned for Reagan & then died, leaving behind 3 children. n/t

[CottonBear]

44. My dad died in 1981 when I was 17 and my benefits got cut off at age 18. n/t

[LynneSin]

53. Nope - Reagan fucked us on that back in 1982

I was also like Paul Ryan and collected Social Security. My brother lucked out and was grandfathered in under the cuts but since I was still in High School, I was cut off after age 18. So my brother got $300 a month which he put towards his college bill, I had to find other sources.

Alot of kids who were the class of 1982 dropped out of High School to enroll in their local community college. My mother considered doing it since I was a gifted student but I was only in 10th grade and still a bit of an emotional wreck.

[CoffeeCat]

2. There are no words...

...to express what schmucks these selfish bastards are, so it's great that
we have their ACTIONS which speak for themselves!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[RKP5637]

10. These individuals have psychotic minds bordering on being sociopaths, they just

do not think like the rest of us and some evidence shows they often think/filter from a fear based primitive portion of their brains. In short, they just do not relate to the world as many of us do.

Taking to them and screwing others is just not seen as lacking empathy. And often their programmed preconditioned rationale of the world is unshakable, it is in fact like talking to a brick wall.

[liberation]

60. People who have a psychotic mind, are well past the sociopathic stage...

[RKP5637]

63. Thanks for the correction! n/t

[jaysunb]

4. What's that saying ? I got mine...

screw you ? or something like that.
That seems real popular in some circles today. :evilfrown:

[cascadiance]

27. Terry Brandstadt and he should compare notes. He's also saying "I got mine" about his pension!

... that he's collecting for "being a retired governor" from Iowa taxpayers while going back to being a governor, and wanting to cut back on pensions for everyone else there.

[brewens]

6. I never got a dime of mine until I was 19 and moved out of the

house when my mom sold it. She scored a sorority house mothers job which saved her and made her retirement.
I fully understood all the time my mom kept my s.s. checks to pay the bills. I had money though. I worked part time all through school. Not sweeping up at my dads bar either. I wish we'd had a bar. I worked for minimum wage for someone else.
No putting that s.s. money away for school for me.

[Vinnie From Indy]

7. I know other people just like this and it infuriates me

[femrap]

36. If one can 'save'

Social Security payments, they are NOT needed.

And he has the audacity to tell poor, elderly people to 'fuck off.'

May those 200 push-ups/day give him a Karmatic kick in the heart.

[flamingdem]

9. What a dick nt

[Raschel]

42. Paul Ryan : GOVERNMENT TEAT SUCKER

[buddysmellgood]

12. Give it back.

[midnight]

13. No mention of working for his grandfather's Construction co.

This man has had lot's of help from the Ryan family construction co. and the govt. and now it will be kept from others based on his strange idea of entitlements....

[spooky3]

14. Yeah, the story changed for me when I read that his mom went back to school rather than find work.

She had to have had financial help to be able to do that.

[calimary]

15. Wow -

"Ryan credits his father’s death and the care of his grandmother as giving him first-hand experience as to how social service programs work." That's odd. Why's he so anxious to screw people who need those social programs now? He's seen how some of them have to live day-to-day. I feel like that every time I hear laura ingraham's name. She's a cancer survivor. Surprising that it didn't make her a better or more compassionate person.

[Raschel]

43. Yeah, I don't get that either. But it's like that saying about crabby old people:

they were crabby when they were young too.

[Generic Other]

17. They should put his story in WISCONSIN DEATHTRIP

right next to the schoolteacher who broke windows in every town she passed through or the prairie mother who ate cigarettes until she died. He belongs in Mendota Hospital for the Insane.

[Zorra]

19. The privileged, wealthy Delta Tau Fratboy collects Social Security money to spend on beer

in college?

Ya just can't get much more republican than that.

[Raine]

22. He got his so fuck everyone else

that's the way some people think. :-(

[Vinca]

25. That's the entire Republican party. Me, me, me, me, me,

[Raschel]

40. and hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite.

[socialist_n_TN]

69. Yeah that was my first thought..........

I credit SS death benefits with keeping my family together when my Dad died in the 60s. I was the oldest at 14 and my Mom worked as a secretary. Without the SS benefits, I'm convinced we'd have been split up.

And that's one reason I'm such a STRONG supporter of Social Security as it's instituted now. DON'T CHANGE WHAT HAS WORKED! But then I'm not a hypocrite.

[checks-n-balances]

71. Yes, he and the idol he worships, Ayn Rand, who got Medicare

Later in life after she became ill. Do you think she did an about-face and decided to become compassionate? Not on your life.

[riverwalker]

26. Pay it back, Paul

Every penny, every dime. All the widow benefits your mother received from SS and college assistance, every dime your grandmother received from Medicare and SS, the dependent benefits you and your siblings received.
Man up, walk the talk, Paul. Pay it back. Gutless phony hypocrite.

[Kurovski]

62. With interest.

Bummer to hear his dad died young, tho. What would his mom have had to do? Maybe dump him in a foster program.

He's an idiot of the cruel bastard type.

[daa]

28. The brave bold Paul Ryan piece of shit nt

[Dappleganger]

30. That boy had some pretty long bootstraps.

[Jkid]

32. You mean ""resources"

Bootstraps=resources

[Orsino]

33. And see what an asshole all that freeloading turned him into?

I guess we're lucky that he's brought us the chance to end that gravy train. x(

[upi402]

34. RWers are lazy, shiftless phonies

They collect more safety net benefits than ethical liberals - from my lifelong experience and observation.

[SpiralHawk]

35. ...and they gleefully suck up government 'socialism'

while condemning everyone else....such freaking hypocrisy

[Hoyt]

38. Yep, these hypocrites forget that SS covers these situations, disability and more.

Life occurrences that most don't, or can't, plan for without SS. Ryan should be tarred-and-feathered.

[Raschel]

41. You are so right. These people don't believe they'll ever get cancer or any other illness that would

disable them.

Oh that's right, they have the Cadillac health plan so they don't have to worry.

[iwishiwas]

65. He and his family obviously did not NEED it for household expenses

food, rent etc. as he got to save it.

[Obamanaut]

45. SS benefits that his father would never get, even though he paid into

the system, because he was dead.

There is nothing to see here.

[riderinthestorm]

48. He gladly took the bennies, used them, and now wants to cut them off for others.

That's the rub. He's a complete hypocrite who wants to cut off the very same benefit he received, and personally used to help better his life.

Can you see that?

Nobody begrudges that Paul Ryan got the benefits. I'm glad they exist for kids who land in those kinds of situations. The crappy part is that now that Ryan's gotten his, he wants to cut them off for those coming up behind him.

[Yavin4]

47. Ryan == Parasite

So says his Goddess, Ayn Rand.

[efilon]

49. Social Security

If the grandma was living with them and they were caring for her they would get not only her benefit but also S.S. would pay them for taking care of her. People whom I know personally have done this. As has been said, I don't begrudge him having gotten the benefit but then to think no one else should receive it is so hypocritical.

[Blue Owl]

50. Dumb shit hypocrite

...Jeebus -- talk about "out of touch with reality"...

[Jakes Progress]

51. ryan is a smarmy, hypocritical little ass.

People who vote for him are idiots. As Ron White says: "You can't fix stupid."

[OhioDoink]

52. Well then,Paul and his hero Ayn both collected SS.

But they deserved it.:sarcasm:
This should be spread far and wide.

[Stumbler]

59. That's what I was thinking of...

Apparently you can't spell 'America' w/o 'me' or 'I.' That's why it's become a 'me-society;' there's no room for 'you' or 'we' in 'America...'

[Politicalboi]

54. Surprise Surprise

SS should be able to be willed to anyone you choose. Gay couples don't get SS benefits from their "spouses". So the Government gets to keep that money. And I guess single people too. We should be able to share that with anyone we choose. If not all that is owed, maybe half.

[SharonAnn]

75. Married people don't either, unless they didn't qualify on their own.

These days, with both parents typically working, they each qualify for Social SEcurity in their own right. When one dies, the other doesn't get their Social Security if they have their own.

The exception is that one they reach full retirement age, they can take their spouse's INSTEAD of their own and should do that if it's higher.

[CRK7376]

55. My Dad died when

my sister was 17...anyway, she moved in with me and wife, less than 18 months since we were married to allow her to finish out high school where she was. It was a hellish year. She got a SS check until she graduated from high school in 1988. Then she went to college on the trust fund our parents set up for her to go to school on. Our mother died when my sister was 12.

As a 17 year old with a 5 year old sister, we too had family move in with us. My mom's mother had Alzheimer and my Aunt in CA could not care for her, so we took in grandmother. My mom gave up being a teacher/librarian for our middle school to care for the family and her mother. Dad was a college professor. It was a tough year and a half with our grandmother living with us. She died 6 months after I had enlisted in the Army....Lots of families go through tough times, many are much more difficult that what my family went through. Still I have empathy for those who lose their parents, especially when they are young, and for those who have to deal with prolonged family illness. That's why we need good medicare/medicaid, care plans for our seniors,a reformed SS sytem, a safety net for the less fortunate Americans. Repubs just don't think that way. To me they are bitter, spiteful and out for themselves, damn the less fortunate.

[Myrina]

56. ... and apparently he resented old people so much ...

... for having to 'take care of them' that he chose a career in politics so he could completely fuck them over as soon as possible.

What a toad.

[Bluebear]

57. Welfare queen

:sarcasm:

[RedCloud]

58. Boo! You fraud!

[SoulSearcher]

61. So what.

Every single member of congress gets Health, pensions galore.
But we don't.
Political parties aside, the whole system is just a ride for the rich.
Newt Gingrich = John Edwards (wife, Cancer)
Obama = Bush2 (Blood for OIL)

Talk is talk - people just vote for the one that sounds best at the moment.
And they know it - whole org's are setup to pound truth into
another story - then retell it to benefit only one side.

[spicegal]

64. Gee, how fortunate for him that he was able to live off

the government dole. I don't think Ayn Rand, his hero would be very proud.

[gateley]

66. That was then, this is now. He got his, fuck the rest of you. nt

[Horse with no Name]

67. Another republican who climbs the ladder of success

then pulls it up after they are done with it.

He was raised in an affluent household...yet needed OUR money to succeed. Isn't that what republicans would say?

The other prominent one that comes readily to mind is Condoleeza Rice...used Affirmative Action for her own benefit then wanted to dismantle it for the future generations.

[MNBrewer]

70. No wonder he's an Any Rand acolyte

[LaPera]

72. Well, well, well-Okay for hypocritical republicans but not workers who pay into the fund for 40 year...

[Corruption Winz]

73. Hypocritical piece of shit....

And that.... is your "State The Obvious" moment of the day. I hope you enjoyed.

[newspeak]

74. just saw Maddow

This Ryan "screw America" bill absolutely sucks!!! He wants more tax breaks for the wealthy most who haven't done shite for this country or the economy, wants to give the oil industry about 30 billion dollars of our money while they are screwing us and wants vouchers for seniors so that the health insurance industry can pick at their damn bones. How much do you think (if they even allow them to sign up) it will cost a senior who has health problems to join-how much deductible, how much coverage? So, what Ryan wants are the health insurance death panels.

My FIL just died and was in the hospital for approximately three weeks, the bill was about $200,000-they have medicare and a secondary insurance. If Ryan's plan was in place (FIL had breathing problems, heart condition) my MIL would be selling the house about now, and if not for family would be out in the street. These sociopaths don't want any regulation for any industry, yet want us to pay these vultures so they can make even more of a profit!!!

The other thing Rachel mentioned was the repuke Hastings, who had close ties with Abramoff(sp). Remember the sweatshops in the Marianas? The terrible working conditions and forcing female workers to have abortions and keeping them virtually prisoners? Clothes made in the Marianas with labels stating "made in the USA." Well Hastings didn't go to prison, he's now on a committee. A committee that decides off shore drilling-and apparently he's decided that if a permit is not approved within a certain time, that it automatically approves. Nothing about safety, nothing about polluting. Oh, and guess who contributed to his campaign?

I've never seen such immorally bankrupt, sleazy characters.

[unkachuck]

76. that's right....

....give the money back, motherfucker; practice what you preach....

[MadMaddie]

77. One would think that he would have developed Empathy

for his fellow American because of his life experience. Apparantly not!

[AlbertCat]

78. One would think that he would have developed Empathy

You assume the story is true. Of course his father DID die but like others have mentioned, his mother went back to school and he "saved" his government money. And his grandmother DID live with them. But combing her hair is not taking care of her. Did he see to her meds? Did he clean her up after "accidents"? Did he deal with her when she got confused, scared, or belligerent? You don't really know. The braiding sick grannie's hair is a nice PR story to warm the cockles of sentimental, emotional people.

[MadMaddie]

79. All true points!

My point is he didn't have it easy so why would he make it harder for others?