America has crashed through insanity into a new realm of mental madness.

[Cyrano]

President Donald Trump? President Sarah Palin? President Haley Barbour? President Newt Gingrich? President (man-on-dog) Rick Santorum? President Mike Huckabee? President Michele Bachmann? President Chris Christie (the bully Governor of New Jersey)?

That any of these people really believe they could be elected to the presidency is beyond insanity. But here’s the scariest thing of all. There are enough Americans (aided by stolen votes) to actually put one of these knuckle-dragging cretins into the Oval Office.

Is there anyone who doesn’t live in terror that any one of those people could actually end up in the White House?

Well, if you think my fears are unfounded, think about this. Who would have thought that an amiable imbecile like Ronald Reagan could have been elected – twice? Who would have thought that a mindless being like George W. could have stolen it – twice?

Someone is going to have to convince me that we shouldn’t be very afraid. I’d really like to hear your thoughts on this issue.

[cliffordu]

1. Any of those slobs can be president.

This is a corporatocracy. Period.

[Cronus Protagonist]

41. ...if George W. Bush could.

werd.

[atreides1]

2. Sorry

I got nothing.:shrug:

[Bandit]

3. It isn't going to matter very much really if we allow them to abolish elections.

Once they claim ultimate Power and that voters wishes do not matter then what difference does a President make? They want to Rule rather than Govern....and everyone knows Governing is sooooo....yesterday..

[Newest Reality]

10. We might as well have

the Supreme Board of Directors as the overseers sans government as we know it, at this point. That's the whole trend, anyway.

America Incorporated. Got stock?

Wewin/Ulose 2012!

[Cyrano]

16. We could just skip it all and go straight to Orwell's Big Brother.

For anyone who hasn't read "1984", borrow it or buy it. Orwell's nightmare world is upon us and there's little to nothing we can do to change it.

[MedleyMisty]

35. We could walk like Egyptians

Rise like Tunisians. Like Syrians and Libyans and Yemenis and Bahrainis and Greeks and the people of a ton of other countries around the world at the moment.

Strike. Occupy state capitols. Occupy the capitol in DC. Don't produce profits for them. Don't work for them. Don't buy their stupid plastic shit.

We have the power. We just have to take it.

[Cyrano]

38. We could. But will we?

[Bragi]

4. My thoughts are this

When a political culture becomes so degraded that not a single issue or any matter of real importance can actually be discussed and debated in an informed and open way, then the conditions for democracy no longer exist in that political culture.

I think that's where America is now at. There is no longer anything resembling an informed electorate to sustain democracy. We can debate the reasons, but whatever they may be, I think we pretty well know what comes next.

[RZM]

5. Few of those folks could beat Obama and most couldn't get the Republican nomination

If there are two people on a ballot, 'Joe Blow' could probably get at least 15 percent of the vote. Some of those who will vote for the Republican nominee may not know anything at all about them, but are just casting ballots against Obama. Plenty of people who voted for John Kerry didn't care much about him or even know much about him, but they did so because they didn't like Bush. You'll see plenty of that type of thing 2012.

While I try to shy away from 'the two parties are the same' type of cynicism, I also have my doubts about how different from Obama some of those candidates would behave if they did win the presidency. Ideological purity and 'brave' stands can get you supporters when you're running, but once in office, the calculus is much different, especially in your first term when you're trying to be all things to all people. Perhaps Michelle Bachmann would try some kooky stuff, but she'll never get anywhere near the White House. The Supreme Court would be a major difference, but aside from that, I don't know.

We'll see with Obama's second term. I think he might move a bit more to the left, but you never know . . .

[femrap]

6. After the

american people elected Raygun, I realized how stupid they are. Today, they're even more stupid. Never say never....

If any of these 'Freaks' gets elected, I hope the Mayan/Hopi Calendar is correct and this Paradigm ENDS!

[Angry Dragon]

8. +1000

[RZM]

9. Isn't that a bit much?

I'd rather not sacrifice the world over 4 years of a Republican president.

[femrap]

19. Supposedly this

horrid Paradigm of Competition is to end and a new one of Cooperation is to begin.

Maybe Mother Earth does tilt on her axis...that's what my Prof of Physical Science told me in 1971: "Every 26,000 years, the Earth tilts on its axis." It was like someone hit me in the stomach....I knew I would witness it.

So I guess it really won't matter who is prez...we'll all be living locally and cooperatively so to survive.

And I hope all the Greedy ones fall off the planet as she tilts!

Since I'm old, I've witnessed the increased decadence, violence, destruction...sometimes, I feel I'm living a nightmare compared to how it was in the 1960s. Sure, there are still good and decent people out there, but TPTB have put Evil, Fear and Greed in charge.

I just try to stay out their way...and Reduce, Reuse, Recycle as much as possible.

[MilesColtrane]

34. "Every 26,000 years, the Earth tilts on its axis."

You are witnessing it because the orientation of the axis is always constantly changing very slowly.

Your professor would have been more accurate to say that the Earth's axis completes one cycle of movement every 26,000 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession

And no, fortunately no one is going to fall off.

[Brickbat]

7. Are you kidding? They're total embodiments of the American Dream!

They prove that anyone -- ANYONE -- can be president!

[Gabi Hayes]

40. except a candidate with any sort of progessive orientation.

[Shandris]

11. Well, I don't think we should be ~afraid~...

...but I think we'd better damn well make sure they don't end up in charge, either. These psychos -- and really, is there any other word? I'm not convinced they're crazy, I think they're sociopathic -- can only lengthen the divide that we can see starting to tear at the very fabric of the nation itself. If, somehow, they should get there, we'd better damn well make sure we have contingency plans for ~any~ eventuality.

But fear? No. Forget that. I didn't live in fear of 'terrorists', I don't live in fear of The Big One, I don't live in fear of dying. I lived in fear when I was a child to arch-conservatives (fear of Russia, of course, in the 70's and 80's) and when I became old enough to reason, I swore 'never again'.

[upi402]

12. Blame the media

BushCo couldn't even speak his mother tongue. Yet the media diverted out attention from the truth of 2 stolen "elections".

The root of it all is the MSM and its distractions, omissions, and lies.

[Cyrano]

13. Yes, the media played a large role in the destruction of the America we've known

But the immense ignorance of far too many of our citizens is what made the disaters of the past three decades possible. The media just helped push along the final demise of democracy. (Don't they ever wonder what will happen to them as individuals once a full-blown plutocracy is in charge?)

[upi402]

22. Good point

Schools and colleges now push pro-business the agenda and how we can be useful to business.
They smear unions and don't teach critical thinking as much.

No labor history or workplace rights are taught. The school of Economic's fundamental principal; that we act in our own best economic interests - is a false premise.

[Cyrano]

23. Yep. We are indeed living in a dark era.

Yet, I believe a new renaissance will eventually come about. So, while we are screwed, we can hold out hope for a new age of enlightenment that, unfortunately, most of us won't be here to see.

[Lorien]

31. Blame Reagan for repealing the Fairness doctrine. Blame Rush Limbaugh for

convincing Americans (even liberals) that they Fairness Doctrine curtailed free speech. Limbaugh would not be one tenth as powerful if we still had a Fairness Doctrine.

[upi402]

33. Even my sisters; Randi Rhodes & Stephanie Miller

don't want the Fairness Doctrine reinstated.
Wow, I sure do. I'll listen to RW drivel (I have to anyway) if it gets the labor or liberal truth aired!!!!

kick

[mimitabby]

14. i share your fear.

really I am scared to death

[MineralMan]

15. Turn your fear to a practical purpose.

Start campaigning for Democrats and against Republicans today. If you're fearful of something, doing something to prevent what you fear is the appropriate response.

Seems pretty simple to me.

[Cyrano]

17. There are many of us here who have spent much time, money, energy

and worked our hearts out to get out the Democratic vote year after year. Yet we are being outspent, outmaneuvered, and we don't control the propaganda that the media feeds Americans 24/7.

And, perhaps most important of all, the Republicans own the voting machines. I forgot who it was that said, "What matters is who counts the votes."

[MineralMan]

18. Yes. Sometimes we succeed and sometimes we do not.

In a divided society like ours, that's what happens. You can either continue the battle or abandon it. That's your choice. I will not abandon the battle until I no longer breathe. See ya around.

[Cyrano]

20. The truth is that the Republican Party, their Tea Bag fringe nuts,

and their corporate and wealthy owners are out to destroy us by any and all means. They're not playing by any "rules."

Yet, we imbeciles insist on playing by the "rules" as though we still lived in some sort of democracy.

What's wrong with this picture?

[MineralMan]

21. What's wrong with this picture is that you are presenting

no alternative plan. Why is that? The Republicans have made their plan clear. They've given us all the ammunition we need to turn this around on them.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. What is your plan? How do you think you're going to stop them?

If you have no plan, then stand aside, please. There's an election to win in 435 congressional districts and 33 Senate seats. If you won't participate, then stand aside, please.

If you have a workable plan, then let's fucking hear it. If you don't, what are you yammering about? It's boring. Say what you think will fix the problem, or quit whining, if you don't mind.

[Cyrano]

26. No MineralMan, I don't have a plan.

Let me know when you find a Democrat who does have one.

Further, like many here, I find the term "whining" to be offensive, juvenille and outright rude.

If you feel the need to get pissed off and throw a fit, throw it at the Republicans, not at me.

[MineralMan]

27. Yes, that's my plan, as I said. Throw the Republicans' overreaching

in their faces and elect a majority of Democrats. I plan to work very hard to make that happen. That's my plan. Since you don't appear to have one, you could join in that project. It's easy. If you need contact information for your own Congressional candidates, just let me know where you are and I'll send it to you in a PM.

They need your help, and will need it clear up until the 2012 election.

[sixmile]

24. A plea to stop calling Chris Christie a bully

He is a phony backwards slob, not a bully.

Bully implies that he has some power of which he does not.

[Cyrano]

28. Whenever I see Chris Christie, Newt Gingrich and Haley Barbour,

I can only picture them with apples in their mouths, spits running through them, and slowly being rotated over an open charcoal fire.

As harsh as it may sound, these men are walking, living pigs whose cruelty knows has no limits.

[sixmile]

29. I'd like to see them get cruel to my face

They'd cry like children.

[Zorra]

25. Seriously, good points. The current crop of rotting veggies makes

Reagan seem like a wise and compassionate genius in comparison. And he was satan's representative on earth.

[Blue Owl]

30. Just the normal, everyday freakshow

The fact that the GOP has ANY credibility or legitimacy baffles me.

I think it's "hologram" of sorts projected by the M$M.

[fascisthunter]

32. There will be a Worse Crash Soon

the banking system is still unfettered by greed and asshole weakling politicians.

[StarburstClock]

36. The U.S. is a criminal country, has been for years.

A person in Egypt recently said she felt she had let her children down by "trading civility for corruption" and that's exactly what we've done too. The only way to get any semblance of the U.S. back is to address corruption at every level of business and government. That can be done legally and peacefully but likely won't be. Anyone who can see about 2 years into the future is scared and should be, we've got a mass of deluded people who are perfectly willing to be run by puppets. A massive societal confrontation is coming whether anyone likes it or not, the only way its violence can be averted is via actual leadership which now seems to have been sold off to the highest bidders.

Another scenario is similar to the old USSR where 70% of the economy was "black market" before it collapsed and people just completely ignored the government and all its functions. That's ugly as hell too and could last for years.

The best scenario is a peaceful "revolution" wherein people in most states vote out all the pathological liars/sellouts via monitored elections and simply start ignoring worthless liars like Palin which doesn't seem to viable at this point as even on this site the freakish sociopath gets lots of attention.

[Brewman_Jax]

37. Be very afraid

most of the populace is poorly educated, poorly informed, and very self-absorbed with even shorter memories. The fact that enough repubs and teabaggers were elected to control the House of Representatives is terrifying enough. :scared:

[Imagevision]

39. Sure! fire up those Diebold's baby, if Bush can do it anyone can...

[AsahinaKimi]

42. I would almost bet, if you found a Republican Celebrity ...

and had them run for President, a lot of Americans would love it, and vote for them, with no clue about whether or not, the actor or celebrity has any experience. Look what happened when Arnold ran for governor of California, or Reagan ran as President.


The uninformed don't care. They just want THEIR GUY..(or Their girl) on the ticket. I will be interested to see who the Republicans decide on. Right now its Donald Trump. He has celebrity status. People would vote for Glenn Beck if he was running...

Our country is filled with people who have very little education... and its getting worse. Mel Gibson (born in NY) could run for President, and people would oooh and awwwwww about him.


There are many people who don't get it.