Corporations who out source, yet still receive US tax subsidies & benefits.

[Dr Fate]

Does anyone have a good website or link that provides a list of such corporations?

Thanks,

Doc

[jtrockville]

1. Do you mean off-shore?

I think tons of corporations, probably literally all of them, outsource things such as payroll, cleaning crews, landscaping, etc. No reason for that to be used as a basis for denying a subsidy, is it?

[Dr Fate]

3. If a US business could have got the subsidy instead, then yes, our $ should be denied to outsourcers

They have no excuse to take one penny of my pay check if they would rather give jobs to foreigners than US wokers who need the jobs.

Let small, loyal, pro-USA, US incorporated businesses have the bulk of the subsidies instead.

Yes- I mean Off-shoring, out sourcing, giving jobs to foreigners instead of Americans, giving tax breaks & cuts to billionares, making the middle class fund billionare's foreign interests- whatever centrists & conservatives are calling ripping off the USA and it's citizens these days.

Do you have a link or website that migh have some FACS, lists, etc?

[jtrockville]

8. Outsoucing can be done to a US company.

A US company can outsource its payroll (or its food service, or its landscaping) to a US company.

[Dr Fate]

11. Good for them. Who the hell was even talking about that? Got any links, websites that are on topic??

If so, thanks in advance.

Providing jobs to people who live in the US is not really the controversy here, but I think you knew that.

[jtrockville]

16. If you're searching for links, it helps to get the terms right.

Then again, if you're just demanding that others do so, I guess I can see why specificity of terms wouldn't really be that important (to you).

[Dr Fate]

17. Now that you have corrected my semantics, Got any links, info, etc? Thanks in advance.

Since you are such an expert on "off shoring" and the "good" out-sourcing- I'm sure you would be willing to provide us all with lots of helpful facts. Again, thanks in advance.

[Dr Fate]

19. Still waiting for some of your research on "off-shoring."

You seemed to know so much about it before when you were busy with the important task of correcting my semantics- now that I'm ready for some facts, you bow out.

[whathehell]

6. Are you kidding?

I can't think of a reason taxpayers should

"subsidize" any big company,

let alone one who that takes their jobs away.

[Dr Fate]

7. Kidding? Seems like classic "centrisim." It's the "new normal."

I wanted a handy link b/c I was arguing with a FB friend against Trump (R),but now I guess I better be honest and admit that many DEMS agree with and enable Trump.

It's okay though- I'm not arguing on FB in a partisan Democrat persona, but as a Pro-USA Liberal.

[whathehell]

18. It's not "normal", new or otherwise where I live. n/t

[jtrockville]

9. Outsourcing doesn't necessarily take away jobs.

I agree on corporate subsidies - if the free market can't provide, no reason to throw money at 'em to help.

But the term "outsource" doesn't imply jobs were sent overseas. That's off-shoring. Outsourcing simply means a company hires another company to do something like payroll, or cleaning, or food service, rather than hiring individual employees.

[Dr Fate]

12. It should be obvious by now that this thread is about the kind that does take away jobs.

Off shoring, out-sourcing to other countries, tax breaks, cuts & subsidies for multi-national interests- all semantics when you boil it down. Whatever "centrists" and consertatives are calling the screwing of America this week.

Since I need to clear things up for some-do you have a link about the corporations that "off shore" jobs but are still rewarded with economic benefits by our govt? That was the orig. intent of the OP.

[Poboy]

2. Kicking for Dr.Fate.

[JustAmused]

4. When campaigning

Obama mentioned on several occasions that he would end subsidies and tax breaks for companies that outsourced. I have not anything about this issue since the election.

[Dr Fate]

5. I'm not even discussing Obama's successes (?) and failures on this issue- I just want the facts.

It might be easier to list the out-sourcing corporations who DO NOT recieve such benefits, but I was just hoping someone had already compiled a good list of facts on this.

Is that why some DUers might be reluctant to help me find such a list- they are afraid it implicates Obama too much? If so, how sad.

If I were asking this question during the Bush years, I'll bet several of the everday DU regulars would already have provided detailed, essays, links, charts, graphs, etc.

If it will help- I PROMISE that the info is being used in an anti-Trump argument. LOL!

[Bennyboy]

10. The Verbage is incorrect..."outsourced"

does not mean off shored. It means sent off to another company to do, not necessarily out of the US (pand most likely not in fact)

The verb you are looking for is "offshored"a s in moved off shore such as labor and bank accounts.

[Dr Fate]

13. Fair enough. Semantics aside- got any links?

I think most people concede that you can technically "outsource" a job to another shore as well-at least several DUers seemed to get the jist of what I meant.

[wysingm]

14. Looking at Big Blue for example...

World's leading location for call centers? It's not India

Source: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2011/0419/World-s-leading-location-for-call-centers-It-s-not-India?cmpid=addthis_twitter&sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4daef34898a0a4fb,0

Lured by tax breaks, cheap labor, and an abundance of college-educated English speakers, global outsourcing firms have flocked to the Philippines.

Big names such as IBM, Shell, HSBC, Proctor & Gamble, and the Hershey Company all have Filipinos taking and making calls on their behalf.

So gilded is the industry that the southeast Asian nation last year stole India's perch as the world's leading location for call centers. Around 600,000 Filipinos are employed in outsourcing and the government forecasts the sector to generate $12 billion to $13 billion in 2012, rising to $100 billion by 2020.

IBM Corporation

August 2010

Source: http://www.minyanville.com/special-features/articles/ibm-tax-credit-tax-break-government/8/5/2010/id/29427

IBM makes $100 billion in annual revenues, but it's not above accepting millions in taxpayer-funded incentives when cities bid to win Big Blue business.

But what happens if IBM lays off the workers whose jobs it was paid to create? Last year, the company cut roughly 10,400 jobs from its North American workforce and this year Big Blue has let thousands more go. Fortunately for IBM, it’s off the hook in terms of paying back those subsidies.

[Dr Fate]

15. Thanks for some facts.

Finding corporations who enage in off shoring, outsourcing outside the US, whateves, is not difficult to find at all.

What I was hoping to find is the specific subsides and economic breaks enjoyed by each off-shoring corporation, or the ones who arguably abuse the system the most. I've been googling around and there is nothing very concise- hard to beleive someone has not layed it all out...