Would you like to see an end to Fox News?

[NCcoast]

Clearly for Murdock/Ailes spying is standard operating procedure

I don't think this is getting enough attention. This may be the perfect opportunity for ridding ourselves of these parasites.

This is a video from TYT that got posted yesterday. Ailes has bought some papers to run in his retirement. His employees have figured out that he's spying on them. It was known that management spied on employees at Fox News.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HojuwwjSVI

There is a huge spying scandal in the UK with a Murdock publication, News of the World. They spied on celebrities, politicians and the royal family. Murdock has pulled his son out of the UK, it seems likely it goes all the way to the top. They've settled 4 suits for $1,000,000 each with a dozen pending. They've set up a fund of 20 million to pay off more suits. They bribed cops to keep it quiet. This could be the end of Murdock in the UK.

Spying is standard operating procedure for Murdock/Ailes. If they were doing it there, they're doing it here. Where there's smoke there's fire.

The GOP is toast without it's propaganda wing. There's something to this. Alert the sharks damnit!! There's blood in the water!

[phasma ex machina]

1. "Better the devil you know," you know? nt

[Xenotime]

18. Ah no.

[MineralMan]

2. I'd like to see it bought by a consortium of progressive organizations.

There may be an opportunity to do that down the road. Billions of dollars, of course. But, hey...

[Avant Guardian]

3. I'd rather a law that says lying and calling it news is illegal

[NeedleCast]

4. Enforcement Would Be A Problem

[OnyxCollie]

10. The Allies figured out that problem

when they created the Basic Law for the Republic of Germany after WWII.

Of course, we knew what was best for Germany, but we can't do that here.

[Avant Guardian]

11. Works in Canada

Lie, lose your broadcasting license.

[unblock]

6. much as a loathe foxnews, i don't care for this solution.

i'd much rather prefer that competing media make foxnews a laughingstock instead of taking it seriously.

that would be far more effective and wouldn't have any first amendment problems.

on the other hand, my solution requires actual media competition, which is in truth nowhere to be found.

[NCcoast]

20. Even playing field?

Sure, I'm all for playing by the rules and letting the best arguments prevail in the great debate. But American conservatives don't play by the rules. They're gaming every system they can. Fox wouldn't be Fox without repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. They tired to overturn the equivalent law in Canada, when they couldn't, they stayed out of the market. If they can't lie they're out of business. And they should be out of business here.

Laws have been broken. In the UK there were illegal wire taps and bribes to the police. They're paying off civil suits left and right.

They're an effort to civil society. To hell with them. Any way they go down is fine by me.

[lpbk2713]

5. "Fox News" is a misnomer.

They have nothing in common with other news outlets.
Fox is the propaganda arm of the rethuglican party.

[provis99]

7. Yes, I want to see an end to Fox News.

Since Fox News is doing it to itself, I'm alright with that.

[whathehell]

8. That would certainly get my vote. n/t

[damntexdem]

9. I don't want to see any part of Faux News, not even its end.

I just want it to end, sight unseen. ;-)

[lapislzi]

12. Nah. I want them out in the open, where I can see them.

Driving the crazy underground will only make it worse.

[KurtNYC]

13. FNC is not the only propaganda on the air. It is much worse than that

The networks refuse any ad they don't like. NBC refuses the Dixie Chicks:
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/people/2006/10/27/19076/NBC-refuses-ads-for-Dixie-Chicks-movie

NBC refuses PETA ad:
http://blog.timesunion.com/sportsmedia/nbc-refuses-to-air-peta-thanksgiving-commercial/3148/

CBS refuses NFL union ad:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-refuses-run-nfl-player-95077

CBS refuses gay dating service ad:
http://videogum.com/111991/cbs_refuses_to_run_an_ad_for_a/free-advertising/

Fox and CBS refuse condom ads (but air Bob Dole talking about"E.D."):
http://www.alternet.org/media/56550

ABC refuses ad for plus size clothing:
http://www.bfdblog.com/2010/04/22/abc-refuses-to-air-plus-sized-lingerie-ad/

If they don't approve of what you have to say or sell then you are shut out. Even if you try to pay for it.

[KharmaTrain]

14. It's Own Greed Will Kill It...

It already is. It's propaganda value long ago peaked...it's audience continues to shrink (funeral parlors mostly) and Rupert gets older with a bunch of greedy kids salivating over the estate.

The fact an employer spies on an employee is nothing new and in many cases very legal. If you're using a company-owned puter or phone, the boss reserves the right to pry into its use. A personal phone or machine...that's another story...and the UK scandal is very juicy indeed for that fact. If there's one thing people value its their privacy and this could hasten an exit for many at that slimy corporation and scare others away.

The House of Murdoch is only as good as the old man who built it...when he's gone, the empire will disolve...

[SoCalDem]

15. Not necessary

We just need to have a continuous disclaimer shown on everything "live"..all their talking head shows/"news" shows etc, that informs the public that this is a venue that 100% supports conservative/republican issues/politicians, and is 100% AGAINST liberal/democratic policy/news.

The whole "fair and balanced"/neutral news venue thing is what's perpetually annoying and unfair.

The best case scenario would be a vibrant counter-channel with as aggressive a stance AGAINST them, so that people could really choose . There is ample "space" available, but of course since we have commercial television, and corporations do the advertising, that will never happen, since they know which party "favors" the legislation they all love..

There will be no "breakthrough" until we have parity, and I do not see that happening anytime soon:(

[Throd]

16. No. Something else would fill that void anyway.

There is a lot of money to be made in reinforcing people's existing opinions and demonizing the opposition.

[NCcoast]

19. Not much fight left in you is there...

I have to take issue with this in several ways. It takes a lot of money and effort to impose those 'existing opinions' on people. It took Fox a long time to get into that position. Do you think we should just close our checking accounts, send the Koch bros. the balance and walk off a cliff? Why bother trying?

[Vinnie From Indy]

17. GOP candidates should be made to pay for the campaign contributions

given to them by FOX News when they use "news" to thinly disguise campaign advertising. The network is, in fact, a 24/7 Republican political operation.

[ThomWV]

21. Yes, they distort the public dialog with purposeful distortions, omissions, and outright lies

And that is simply unacceptable. I think they should be removed from the public airways and any cable that operates as a sanctioned monopoly, or broadcast in whole or in part by any satellite launched at the expense of US taxpayers, in whole or in part.

[snot]

22. Unless we restore the Fairness Doctrine and restrictions on media ownership,

destroying Fox will just force them to create or buy another outlet; and it won't take them long.

[dreamnightwind]

23. Yes they are in a bit of trouble

Getting rid of Fox News is one of the best things we could do. It's easy for progressives to underestimate their influence on the minds of Americans. They've created, successfully, an entire alternate reality with maybe 100 million believers.

We also need to address the underlying flaws in our laws and regulations that allow an entity such as Fox to spread its lies, or we'll keep having to deal with this problem.

But seriously, getting rid pf Fox News would be a great start to dealing with ALL of our problems. Once the disinformation pipeline is top-killed, we can have more reasoned discussion of our problems with the possibility of finding actual solutions.

Something I've been wondering lately: what news channel are the TV's tuned to in the Obama White House? Anyone know? I would guess they watch a lot of Fox, would like to actually find out though.