"vaccine manufacturers are not required to test the safety of vaccines given simultaneously"

[apples and oranges]

Despite one researcher being busted as a fraud, it looks like this issue hasn't been completely resolved.

"When I vaccinated my son Nick, I did not know vaccine manufacturers are not required to test the safety of vaccines given simultaneously – the outcome remains largely unknown. Many thousands of parents with Autistic children report that, like Nick, their children were progressing normally until they were vaccinated, after which they were never the same again. Following receipt of the DTaP, MMR and Hib at a 15 month doctor's visit, and a loss of skills, Nick was diagnosed with Autism at 21 months. He has since been diagnosed with encephalitis, seizures, inflammation in his gastrointestinal tract, and a mitochondrial disorder."

"In the U.S., we mandate 36 vaccines for 14 diseases by 1st grade. This is the most aggressive vaccine schedule in the world and it is also a grand experiment. Are we trading the elimination of childhood disease for a lifetime of disability? One fifth of all U.S. children take at least one prescription medication today. Children in the U.S. are sicker today than ever before, yet few mainstream doctors dare to ask if there might be a vaccine link. This is hardly surprising, given that over 80% of pediatric revenue is derived from well-baby vaccine visits."

"I have never met a parent willing to sacrifice their child for the good of the herd. The vaccines have become more important than the child. It is time to stop allowing our children to be used as pharmaceutical pincushions. It is time to demand transparency in the tight relationship between pharmaceutical profits and government vaccine mandates."

The Institute of Medicine (IOM) has repeatedly acknowledged that population-based epidemiology studies, which have been relied upon by the government to refute any associations between vaccines and autism, would not be able to detect a sub-set of children who may be genetically vulnerable to vaccine injury. To date, there has been no effort to understand why some children like Nick suffer vaccine injury. According to SafeMinds Director Lyn Redwood RN, "It is as unacceptable for a child to suffer life-long injury from a vaccine as it is for a child to be injured by a vaccine-preventable disease. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are responsible for both vaccine promotion and vaccine safety, which puts them in the awkward position of evaluating their own recommendations." In addition, CDC also holds licensing agreements with vaccine manufacturers under a 1980 law which allows public-private partnerships and creates lucrative financial relationships between government and industry. Vaccine manufacturers are also given immunity from product liability not granted to any other industry, resulting in zero financial incentive for product safety on their part.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/daughter-of-journalist-robert-macneil-states-that-son-regressed-into-autism-after-vaccines-120189489.html

[Lance_Boyle]

1. They do if they manufacture a combination vaccine, but how would you mandate testing

to include other companies' products? To give a non-vaccine pharmaceutical analogy, the FDA can mandate that Pfizer test the safety and efficacy of Viagra before the agency will approve it, but they cannot tell Pfizer that they must also test the safety and efficacy of Viagra when taken with Sudafed, or with Mott's apple sauce. :shrug:

It is not *mandatory* to get all vaccinations at the same doctor visit, although it is often done for convenience. Parents with concerns about multiple simultaneous vax administrations should take those concerns up with their pediatricians.

[uppityperson]

6. Seriously. If you are worried, get them at separate times.

[Recursion]

10. Detecting adverse interactions is a longstanding problem with pharmaceuticals

And nobody's found a good solution for it yet.

[upi402]

2. Drugs not tested in combination should not be allowed to be used in combination

Vaccines included.

Robert MacNeil has a PBS Newshour series on Autism - his grandson is Autistic and daughter says he was fine before vaccination. He's not on board with that, however.
http://video.pbs.org/video/1865831018/

[Lance_Boyle]

3. Seriously?

Do you think this should be only for prescriptions, or for all drugs?

Should every manufacturer of aspirin be required to test their drug in combination with every other drug from every other manufacturer?

[blondeatlast]

4. I had the same thought. Ridiculous, utterly impossible standard. nt

[blondeatlast]

5. So--no more antibiotics, no more insulin, no more chemo drugs.

What a lovely, hopeful world for the sick you have.

[upi402]

7. Here's a drug interaction checker LINK

http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html

This is a grave issue and not new, yet ignored due to big pharma's influence on our former consumer protections.

Relax, I'm not ruling by decree here. In fact, take all the medicine you need, IMHO.

[Lance_Boyle]

8. This is also why we have pharmacists.

Those folks don't spend years in school just to learn how to count pills - they are well-versed in drug interaction dangers. The plain fact of the matter is that separate vaccines given simultaneously has been standard practice for decades now and show to be not harmful aside from additional injection site soreness.

[upi402]

14. Adverse Drug Reaction is the #1 cause of death

I never said vaccines were unsafe, in any form. Just said it was being discussed at the link.

And yes, if pharmacists have the results of studies, and you trust your life in their hands - no worries. But if these demi-gods don't have valid studies as referrence, then even a gambler like me starts to pay attention.

http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/Leading_Cause_of_Death_in_the_US.html
Adverse Drug Reaction is the #1 cause of death in hospitals.

[Recursion]

11. Yeah, and it was assembled by patients reporting problems with interactions

If you want a perfectly safe pharmaceutical, sorry.

[upi402]

15. Big Pharma appeasers on DU?

Why am I not surprised...

:popcorn:

[Recursion]

16. *facepalm*

Great, I get shit from both sides on vaccine threads. I love actually basing my decisions on real data, which seems to piss everyone off...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. that because vaccines do not work like other medications such

as antibiotics or painkillers etc

the anti-science vaccines paranoia is annoying

[SidDithers]

12. OP is a news release from safeminds.org...

A site which is still trying to link mercury to autism.

Woo of the highest order.

Sid

[apples and oranges]

17. Just passing the info along. Nobody can say they weren't warned

about all this should the worst happen to their family.

[Horse with no Name]

19. Figures. I try to stay away from the woo. n/t

[Book Lover]

13. Someday, my fairy godmother will give me three wishes related to autism

The second one will be to go back in time and destroy Wakefield's reputation before his dammed and refuted "study" came out, preventing him from ever putting pen to paper. If these people would put one-tenth the energy they put into the anti-vaccine bullshit into helping a family with an autistic child at school or the home, or helping an autistic adult find a job or live in the community, well, I wouldn't be so frightened for my child's future.

[apples and oranges]

18. So you're discounting the first hand stories of thousands of families

who noticed changes in their children after taking vaccines? That's OK, but I think people should decide for themselves or at least have access to all the information first.

[Book Lover]

20. Having spoken with many, many of my fellow travelers on this path, yes I am

I am sure you have heard this before, but it bears repeating: correlation is not causation. And when you say "have access to all the information first," I hope you mean to include all of the science-based evidence that disproves Wakefield's claims.

By the way, are you a fellow parent raising a child with autism? Despite our differences over this one issue, I know we have the same goal of raising our kids in the best world possible.

[Odin2005]

23. It's called MASS HYSTERIA.

[Gator_Matt]

21. Immunologist here. Don't believe the autism nonsense.

The link to autism is junk science. Autism classically presents itself around 18-24 months. The disgraced instigator of this vaccine-autism theory merely provided them something to blame. It's something we all know: correlation is not causation. Absent a valid mechanism, don't believe it.

Vaccines aren't your typical "drugs." They're not compounds designed by medicinal chemists. Simply put, they safely mimic a pathogen so that your body can develop defenses against the real thing. They're proteins that scream "come get me" to the immune system.

Even if the link to autism were true, which it is not, the benefits of vaccination would still outweigh the miniscule chance of developing autism. People tend to forget what the world was like before vaccination. Smallpox, anyone? Tetanus? Whooping cough? Vaccination is a wonderful thing.

[Odin2005]

22. Woo Alert!