GAB denies Kloppenburg’s request for private investigator to investigate Nickolaus

[eowyn_of_rohan]

Election board refutes challenger’s claims of partiality in vote counts

The Badger Herald
Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:21 p.m.
http://badgerherald.com/news/2011/04/21/gab_denies_kloppenbu.php
Kloppenburg first announced she would request a recount Wednesday. That same day she also said she would be asking the GAB to appoint an independent investigator to take another look into the Waukesha County clerk, who discovered 14,000 votes from her county went uncounted.

“The Government Accountability Board should hire an independent investigator to conduct an investigation because the Government Accountability Board worked closely with clerks on a day to day basis, and that relationship, though appropriate, compromises the board’s ability to conduct an investigation,” Mulliken said.

In a letter sent to the GAB Wednesday concerning the request for an independent investigator, Kloppenburg’s attorney Susan Crawford said there was correspondence between GAB investigators and Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus that amounted to an “alliance.”

The GAB released a statement from director Kevin Kennedy addressing Kloppenburg’s criticisms of their process and refusing to step aside in the investigation. “With respect to the public statements about our impartiality, it is the statutory responsibility of this agency to conduct these operations,” Kennedy said in the statement. “We are authorized to employ outside investigators, but they work under our direction.”

(sorry -posted too many paragraphs) :blush:

Also this article talks about the GAB suit filed in regard to erasing/destroying voting data from the cartridges. This suit offered the judge an option to allow for hand recounts rather than having data erased. The judge ruled that the ballots should be hand counted - What a RELIEF.

[C_U_L8R]

1. How much do memory sticks cost?

Can't they just give them fresh ones instead of rewriting over the old ones (and potentially destroying evidence)?
Just sayin'

[HereSince1628]

3. Do these machines have programmable memory?

The electronic recount should be done with machines that have passed new certification trials.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

9. Yes, we need new voting equipment

They can be programmed alright, and here the GAB is saying these cartridges are no longer being manufactured, and there are not enough available ANYWHERE, apparently, to have enough new ones for a recount (hence they want to re-use the ones that were used on voting day). Does this sound like an intentional shortage (not necessarily on the part of our own GAB), so that this deletion of election data could occur?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

7. GAB says the memory cartridges no longer are manufactured - not enough available

:eyes:
Time for a whole new system, because this is ridiculous

Here is the text regarding this issue from GAB's Authenticated Summons and Complaint, filed yesterday -

13. GAB has been advised that the memory cartridges no longer are manufactured, insufficient memory cartridges are available from the manufacturer or other sources (for instance, one manufacturer has only 246 reserve memory cartridges, but 3 jurisdictions alone need memory cartridges exceeding this amount. - The City of Milwaukee requires 160, Dane County requires 136, and Brown County requires 88), and the counties that will use the Optech Eagle for the recount have insufficient reserve memory cartridges in addition to the ones which were used in the APril 2011 spring election, which contain the record of the votes cast, and which cannot be cleared or erased under Wis Stat. 7.23(2). As a result GAB believes that the counties cannot comply with the requirement of Wis Stat 7.32(2) and 9.01(1)(b) without violating the requirement of Wis Stat. 7.32(2) and vice versa.

http://gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/publication/65/authenticated_summons_and_complaint_pdf_79430.pdf

[C_U_L8R]

8. They should try eBay

:-)

[eowyn_of_rohan]

10. :) There are more than 19 on ebay now

probably not the right kind but they have at least one thing in common!

Dallas Semiconductor
DS1217
32K X 8 Nonvolatile Read/Write Cartridge
Rare and hard to find !

Nice Collection & Conversation Piece of Vintage Computer History.

I was told these were used only once to store data from a pre-production voting machine to store data like voting information.
Project was later canceled due to technology upgrades & security.
I guess it would be real easy to re-program (votes) on these little cartridges. :rofl: (Ya Think?)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dallas-Semiconductor-DS1217-RW-Cartridge-32KX8-Rare-IC-/380162933560?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58837a0338

[gadjitfreek]

2. When is Jimmy Carter

going to start overseeing elections in THIS country to make sure they are fair and aboveboard?

[Scuba]

4. +1

[Mnemosyne]

6. They cannot due to the fact of Carter's affiliation with Democratic Party.

www.CarterCenter.org

As part of its mission, The Carter Center works to promote effective and accountable democratic institutions and processes around the world. The focus of this mission is abroad, where the Center is recognized as a nonpartisan and impartial actor in its work to monitor elections and reinforce democracy. In the United States, however, President Carter's affiliation with the Democratic Party could be perceived as detracting from our ability to be impartial.

For additional information on these and related issues, see the attached “Q & A sheet” on U.S. elections, which also can be found on the Center’s webpage (www.CarterCenter.org - click on Peace Programs, then click on Democracy Program, and on the right side of the screen is a box titled “Read About U.S. Elections.”)


Carter is the only one I would trust with it; and he cannot do it.

[crickets]

12. He's been asked about this.

The US doesn't qualify for oversight. This country does not meet the minimum standards of fairness and uniformity required by the Declaration of Principles of International Election Observation and Code of Conduct adopted at the United Nations in 2005.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6439233 (skip toward the end of the interview)
http://www.cartercenter.org/peace/democracy/index.html

We don't qualify. The U.S. is not democratic (small d) enough. That's a cold splash of water down the back, isn't it?

[Botany]

5. the fix is in

An outside investigation needs to be done on the process. End of story.

Nickolaus lied in her press conference about how she found the votes and what was the problem
that caused those 14,000 votes to go missing.

[liberalla]

13. +1,000 !

"An outside investigation needs to be done on the process. End of story."


:dem:

[eowyn_of_rohan]

15. How do you overrule the GAB? State or US Supreme Court?

I think we have many twists and turns to look forward to in this recount...

[Botany]

16. doesn't sound like accountability is a big part of the ....

.... GAB

FYI

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8486

Old Kathy has a long string of "problems."

[mod mom]

11. Neither party wants the election system exposed.

[KittyWampus]

14. Who are the members of GAB? They seem to be incompetent.