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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:31 PM
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McDonald's employee fired after taping video of fight

Franchise owner calls beating 'reprehensible,' might take action against other workers


By Jill Rosen and Justin Fenton, The Baltimore Sun


A Baltimore County McDonald's owner announced on Saturday afternoon that an employee who taped the violent beating of a customer — a video that went viral Friday — had been fired.

"My first and foremost concern is with the victim," franchise owner Mitchell McPherson said in a statement, adding that action might be taken against other restaurant workers as well. "I'm as shocked and disturbed by this assault as anyone would be. The behavior displayed in the video is unfathomable and reprehensible."

The video of a beating the Rosedale restaurant went viral Friday, garnering hundreds of thousands of views on websites and prompting the fast-food giant to issue a statement condemning the incident.


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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-mcdonalds-video-20110423,0,1302714.story
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:33 PM
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1. Too late bozo. Repsondeat Superior says you're going to
pay, and pay big, for this one. And firing the asshole isn't going to get you off the hook.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:40 PM
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2. This should add another reason to skip Mickey D's
Besides the shitty, fatty, sugary trash they call food, they have shitty people working and buying it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:46 PM
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:53 PM
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5. I see mothers with young children. Probably tired from working all day.
I wouldn't call them shitty people. Lots of seniors eat there, too.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 07:02 PM
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7. Well, I wouldn't purposely call seniors "shitty"...
... but I sure would avoid their shitty food if I had another choice.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:27 PM
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14. All sorts of poor people eat there.
I had a lot of McDonald's lunches when I was unemployed in LA a few years ago - a filling meal for two or three bucks.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 12:53 PM
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34. Indeed--and McD's responded appropriately after the incident.. This is a franchise
issue anyway.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:29 PM
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15. Never eat Mickey D's junk food.
I am a vegetarian. But in the past during my meat-eating days, I never ate that crap.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 02:48 AM
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25. I used to work fast-food.
:shrug:
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 06:48 AM
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26. My, how progressively liberally non judgmental regarding people who
work/buy a product.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:00 AM
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27. Really?
I thought it was an insightful observation regarding how easy it is to market bad eating habits to people who are least served by them!
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 12:44 PM
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33. Defend any way that makes it easier to accept 'judgmental', because after all,
as the Swayze character in the movie '"Road House'" said - "Opinions vary."
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:32 AM
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51. -1
Dayem! Broad brush much?
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:50 PM
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4. I don't understand this reaction
What do you feel the owner of the franchise did wrong exactly?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:18 PM
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10. I don't understand that either
the owner probably wasn't there and didn't even hear about it till afterward. Seems like you're damn if you do and damned if you don't. Do the the right thing but it's still not enough. :-(
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 12:54 PM
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35. It's SOP in GD; I've never gotten the mentality but it's
all over this borad. :shrug:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:54 PM
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6. He did the woman a favor. That tape will be used as evidence
against the 3 little shitbags who beat the crap out of her.

Two people tried to help, a man who intervened (and who likely called the cops) and an old lady who just waded right in. Only the news that the cops were on the way caused the little gangettes to flee.

The tape was disturbing, to say the least. I hope those three are off the street soon and that the tape puts them away for a very, very long time.
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:50 PM
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19. I think the thugettes will definitely be put away for a while. After all,
the fact that they left the restaurant, then returned to continue the beating proves that there was premeditation. No way can they claim self-defense or some other justification.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 12:10 AM
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24. They're being tracked down
The youngest one was FOURTEEN. I don't think their target will balk at pressing charges, she seems pretty traumatized.

This was also a hate crime. The victim is a transgendered woman.
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:42 AM
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31. I think the victim's race or sexual status is irrelevant. Regardless of what started
the fight, the fact is that once she was down, there was no need for it to continue. She was outnumbered, and her attackers kept returning to beat her some more. Whatever their age, they deserve jail. On another note, I think it likely that the victim will wind up owning that restaurant.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 12:55 PM
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36. She's been officially charged; I'm not up to date on the other. nt
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 09:03 PM
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22. yes he did the girl a favor alright
I am sure the seizure she suffered will make up for the conviction of the 2 ladies especially since the 3 employees could have easily stopped the assault. If I had been there during the fight, the news would read "The beat down of two women at a Baltimore McDonalds"
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 12:09 AM
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23. Had they waded in to stop it (and one guy did, was he an employee?)
they'd have been fired, too. McDonald's has a strict policy of not getting involved in this stuff, just hand the money over and call the cops--or just call the cops. Employees who have done some pretty heroic things have been fired for them.

The only thing he should have done is call the cops first, then tape it, and hand a copy to the cops as well as posting it on You Tube.

Still that tape can be instrumental in getting those little shitbags put away. I want them off the street and if that tape will do it, good for him.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 01:51 PM
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37. Probably not--he has to be acting within the "scope of his duties."
If cell phone use is forbidden for on-duty employees, and I'm quite certain it would be, McDonald's will be sued, of course, but will likey be found not liable for that reason alone.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:43 PM
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46. Given that he was on-site "management"
that is going to be quite broad - this guy wasn't a hamburger flipper.

Just the attorney's fees to defend this are going to be huge. If the owner and his liability insurer are smart they will settle quick and settle big.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 05:59 PM
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48. It will no doubt be used--whether it sticks is up to the judge and jury. nt
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 06:02 PM by blondeatlast
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 02:27 PM
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43. The owner had to conduct a proper investigation before the firing.
Whether you realize it or not, an owner can't just up and fire a person these days without due process in some states. The firing's timing is not necessarily an attempt to avoid law suits.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:44 PM
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47. Oh, trust me, I realize that, and a lot more.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:10 PM
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8. Isn't the normal corporate response not to be involved in any sort of violence.
If one of the employees had been hurt, they could sue and have huge legal/ medical fees... In fact, other fast foodie employees have been fired for involving themselves in action against robberies etc in the past.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:24 AM
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29. Yes, but he did more than just not being involved, considering
he taped it and then posted the tape on the internet. I am sure McDonalds doesn't want tapes posted on the internet, does it?
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:13 PM
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9. the employee deserved to be fired
instead of filming the incident, he should have been dialing 911. I feel no sympathy towards him.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:21 PM
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12. I wholeheartedly agree n/t
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:21 PM
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11. He's only 18 but he should be fired.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:21 PM
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13. good to see one disgusted by the acceptance of this trash. nt
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:32 PM
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16. If he was the person I heard telling the gangsta'rettes to leave because the cops were coming I hope
the fucker gets prosecuted as an accessory.
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:25 AM
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30. I think he could argue
that he said that in hopes of making them break off the attack.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:46 PM
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17. A high school girl was beaten to death in a Burger King parking lot in Omaha a few years ago
Edited on Sat Apr-23-11 08:47 PM by Omaha Steve

I don't remember the legal outcome. S 24th St. after school in broad daylight.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:48 PM
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18. Employees are often fired for getting involved.
If you get involved you get fired and if you don't you get fired. Did anyone hit the panic button? That should have happened right away.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 06:07 PM
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49. +1
I remember last year a Best Buy employee got fired for following a shoplifter out into the parking lot and trying to stop him.

The consensus on DU then was that employees have no responsibility to intervene apart from calling the cops.

If the three girls doing the beating had had a knife and the employee had intervened and been injured, McDonalds would have been liable for a conduct code that required him to intervene.

It's hypocritical of them to secretly expect employees to intervene while telling them not to and then firing them whether they do or don't.
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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:50 PM
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20. Don't blame Mcdonalds, blame the employees and the people in the restaurant
I hate it when people vilify the "big bad evil corporation" just because they are an easy scapegoat. Mcdonalds the corporation can't control everything that goes on in each individual franchise just like they can't be blamed for this incident.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:52 PM
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21. Employees get fired for getting involved, fired for not getting involved,
oh well. Fuck it.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:20 AM
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28. More than "not getting involved"
he filmed it giggling then posted it on youtube.

Had he simply done nothing he likely wouldn't be fired, like the other employees.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:56 AM
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32. Yes..
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 10:56 AM by sendero
.... but without that video the chances the perps would have ever been caught would be about .... zero.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 01:54 PM
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38. If he filmed it and handed it over to the police, I doubt he would have been fired
His giggling and posting it on YouTube is what did him in.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 01:58 PM
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40. Do you honestly believe they would face justice if the video was turn over to the police?
I find that highly unlikely. If you have reason to believe otherwise, than I'd like to hear it.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 03:42 PM
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44. Then the appropriate act
would have been to call the police and hand it over to them.

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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 01:56 PM
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39. Fire him.... They should be praising him
His video is going to be the evidence that ensures they are prosecuted.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 02:15 PM
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41. In what universe would it be in McDonalds best interest to have
a video like this on the internet?
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 02:22 PM
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42. A universe where McDonald's is run by human beings that want justice for the attackers
This shows that the safety of their customers is second to their reputation.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:04 PM
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45. How does posting this video on you tube fits into all of this?
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:22 AM
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50. For what exactly?
He didn't film it because he thought it would be useful at the trial later.

He filmed it because he thought it was funny.

Hence why his first thought was to put it on youtube, not turn it in to the police.

Had he gone to the cops with it and not posted it on youtube this would be a very different story.
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