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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 09:49 PM
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Jack Abramoff's Dream
This is friggin brilliant. What Abramoff wanted to say - played by Kevin Spacey with the real john mccain.
I don't think it's on youtube so I couldn't embed.


http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/jack-abramoffs-dream
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 10:04 PM
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1. Glad to see this story still moving.... Better to hear about Siegeleman
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 10:08 PM by midnight
and how a former Governor was falsely imprisoned, moved around and hidden and the Dem's did nothing...





The Siegelman reference is in part because of another response to this clip.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 10:26 PM
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2. Yes I agree so much with that, that is it, that is the suffering many feel.
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 10:34 PM by RandomThoughts
Kevin spacey, always liked his acting, not only by his skills, but his choice of roles also.

Such a great scene. By looking at what is in another eye, we can say, guess I can get my piece of the pie also, everyone is doing it.

If everyone said what was going on, like he so desperately wants to in that clip, it would not only help free him, why they can't say it, but it would also make the world better. At the moment someone did that, they would no longer be held in that system.

Everyone is doing it has two paths, so just don't talk about it and do it also, or try to help less of it to occur.



Why I think people should express themselves and let themselves pay their debt, not by self incrimination, but by making the system seen for what it is. Then we don't have to say all should be condemned, but that all have problems and try to set systems where the better ideals are part of the system.

The secrecy allows for the worse ideals to be the direction and blocks the paying of the debt, and it is much easier to pay the debt when alive in my view of things.



That is my defense for most people, and my own defense of 'all things in moderation' and from the solid ground of that statement, my claims are justified, as are the claims of billions of people that just want to have a modest life with friends and family and the opportunity for some prosperity, such a good clip. Same life I always strove for.

So to arrest all of congress and the business world, then all people, really does not make sense, but for people to find a way for that not be what runs the system, that is the lesson I get from that. And how is that done, transparency, although for some that would be tough. And in some cases arresting those that have done the most damage so they can show what they, and others have been doing, some could even show they did for better reasons, but with less education, so there is also mitigating circumstances, but secrecy is not the correction.

If they can't do that, at least they shouldn't force others to do it to be in private sector or governance.


Some actually think 'trusting in God' is knowing all are evil, and from that do what ever you want since people are evil, and that faith will keep you in luxury and protection. As long as you keep secrets.

I do agree people should not self incriminate, but they should try to set things better, and if that can be done by paying a debt, they probably should not welch on that debt.



Side note.
And I am still due beer and travel money and many experiences, and I am aware of a similar occurrence another reason I choose that phrase, however you miss the point, it is not that person that owes it to me, it is so that many others like that also have it due to them will have due set right. Although much of that was for the camera. Although what that is about is standing. Even though some see it differently. Can you see the transition.

Suzanne Vega - Luka
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1903x_suzanne-vega-luka_music


I know most of you can not understand this, and most of you process it negatively or as a 'joke on me' that is because you only see the blockers, and can not see the messages. See how it works.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 01:28 AM
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