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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:55 PM Original message |
NIH: the vast increase in autism cases is real, the cause is unknown, |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Who gives aspartame to children? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Dolts. n/t |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I suspect many nursing mothers use it. nt |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. it is lowfat yogurt |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Same ones who give them Splenda. nt |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Most likely...EVERYONE... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. I can't imagine why an active child would need fake food. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. Oh come on... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. If it's sugar-free, it isn't maple syrup. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
32. JMO better to go for the real sugar, watch the intake |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Aspartame causes me to have massive headaches, I don't care about the retarded double blind... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. I had a different neurological symptom. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
91. I never use Aspartame. I hate the taste. I use saccharin as a sugar substitute. nt |
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Sienna86 (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:45 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Aspartame gives me a headache too |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. SAME! And it's immediate! |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
93. And me! I get intense headaches, immediately. For a long time I had no idea what was causing it |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
73. Casually using ther term "retarded" in a thread about the increased incidence of a disorder that |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
79. The headache's are probably from your body thinking there is incoming sugar. |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
66. It's in many products -- |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. Donald Rumsfeld does. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. 1 in 70 boys? That is really appalling. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The numbers are just as high in Britain, I know. I understand |
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DonCoquixote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. do they mean full blown autism |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. "On the spectrum" means they're including Asbergers. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Asperger's. Spell it right, please. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. I usually do. This time I slipped and copied the post before mine. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. No problem. It's a common typo that annoys the crap out of me. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
63. LOL, Odin, you remind me so much of my aspie |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Thanks! |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:33 AM Original message |
Oops, double post. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
64. TRIPLE post, sheesh! |
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DonCoquixote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. my speel check failed I guess |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. My guess, it's linked to some sort of inflammation causing neurological problems |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:10 PM Original message |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Good guesses. My additional guesses are more older people having kids |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. So Viagra causes autism? nt |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. lol |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. So it is an injection that's causing the problem.... |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
56. Also a good guess, but that's not it either |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. If there is an "epidemic" then why is the incidence of autism the same in adults? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Other researchers say there is a vast increase. I'm going with the NIH Director's opinion. n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Other reasearchers NEVER STUDIED THE MATURE ADULT POPULATION. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The NIH is well aware of and even funds studies of the adult population. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Prior to modern medicine cancer rates were zero |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
72. Good point. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
85. You said a mouthful, Odin! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. It's got to be something environmental |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Agree that's a likely suspect. There was a big increase in CA which is notorious for being polluted |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. A lot of researchers these days think more than one |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
41. A very interesting theory correlates early TV watching with ASDs. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:19 PM Original message |
Interesting, perhaps. Full of horseshit, highly likely |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
89. Actually it was a careful study. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. Why? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. It's not newly diagnosed at all |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Autism wasn't defined as a seperate disorder until the 60s |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
76. Dupe. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
77. It was barely known by most psychiatrists before the 80s. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. My hypothesis is pre-natal |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. If exposure is universal, but symptoms are not... |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Exposure isn't necessarily universal though. Some land/food/air could be contaminated and some not. |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
59. Ultrasound was the exposure referred to |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. My point exactly. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. One possible answer is that it's caused by |
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allthatjazz (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
61. I agree SheilaT |
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hugo_from_TN (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
65. I think it's the DH in baseball |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
84. LOL; I know, I shouldn't have... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
25. In this topic, there's far too much belief, and not enough data. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
26. I don't supose it could that almost anything will be labeled autism now... |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
58. This is probably it more than anything else |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
31. If you are a person over 55, you may have grown up in a close-knit neighborhood |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:37 AM Original message |
This is the painful secret of so many families. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. delete |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. You bring up a good point. Is there any public support for people this severe? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
74. I suspect that there may indeed be lower rates of autism in countries where there is less medical |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
39. My uneducated guess is evolution. Autistic people are extraordinary. nt |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Only a small percentage are savants. I think I saw a stat showing a large number to be retarded. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Uneducated indeed. nt |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Evolution doesn't work that way |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
40. Maybe it's been there all along, there's just better diagnosis now. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. Increased testing following characterization of the disorder |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
51. My personal opinion is that TV is at fault |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It is So Refreshing |
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devils chaplain (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. A piece on this theory... |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Ineresting, thanks |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
60. There is one wild theory out there that seeks to explain |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
62. The cause is simple. A much better understanding |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. this is how we feel about my oldest. and what we (including him) say about it |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
71. There is some evidence against a massive increase, at any rate in the UK |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
78. The cause: MONSANTO foods nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. LOL. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
81. Well, we do know it ain't vaccines. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
83. Part of this - a large part - is better diagnostic techniques |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Welcome to DU, fellow Aspie! |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I've been here on and off for six years |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
86. Has anyone investigated a cell phone link? |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. ^ Good point ^ |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
92. what aboutvmercury in high fructosevcorn syrup? |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
94. A friend of mine has a 36 yr old autistic daughter. |
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