Doesn't add up: Prosser 'won' while Wis. GOP can't gather signatures to recall even ONE Dem target?

[blm]

And at the very same time that Dems have gathered MORE than enough signatures to recall FIVE, soon to be SIX, Republicans?

http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/54e65c9f8ce0496182722f91bcbde3bc/WI--Wisconsin-Recalls-Taylor-Risser

It defies logic.

[valerief]

1. Not Diebold (ahem, Premier) logic. nt

[elocs]

2. No, they did get enough signatures to recall 3 Democrats:

From your link:

"Election officials are currently reviewing petitions already turned in against five GOP senators and three Democratic senators."

[blm]

5. Last week it was reported many of those signatures were bogus and obtained fraudulently.

Has that changed?

[PeaceNikki]

6. The verification process is ongoing.

So the answer to this is: we'll see.

[elocs]

8. Until it's officially decided those reports don't mean anything. n/t

[blm]

17. I get the official point, but, the fraud's consistent with past actions by these GOP sig gathering

groups. I don't think Wis Dem's will roll over and not challenge the fraud.

[elocs]

22. The point is that they have the signatures for 3 Dems until it's decided otherwise. n/t

[PeaceNikki]

3. They claim to have signatures for 3 Democrats.

Sens. Dave Hansen of Green Bay, Robert Wirch of Pleasant Prairie and Jim Holperin of Conover.

But have only filed Hansens.

We'll see.

[blm]

11. Yes, it is only a CLAIM by the GOP groups, and the one filed has complaints of widespread fraud.

That state needs a state wide recount by hand.

[PeaceNikki]

13. See below.

[PeaceNikki]

4. It's also notable that the recall efforts of Dems are NOT being headed up by WI GOP.

They are all out of state organizations. The recall efforts of the GOP is being organized/supported heavily by Democratic Party of Wisconsin.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

7. We will be filing papers for a 6th recall on Thursday. Thugs are up to 3, and that may be it.

Yes, that does defy logic which is why we really wanted a FULL Hand Recount, StatewideWe have a partial to full recount in 31 of 72 counties, instead. I hope with all my heart that we find the fraud that we believe has taken place.

Also - the rethugs couldn't even get enough volunteers to collect sigs (so have had to hire outside hacks & criminals), while the Dems volunteerism has been phenomenal.

[PeaceNikki]

9. Over 78% of votes are scanned on election night and most use the machines

that the GAB has stated have no additional memory cards. All of those votes will be counted by hand, as recommended by GAB and confirmed by the court. And in the few cases where they will be re-scanned, observers will examine each ballot and manual counting will happen while scan is happening.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

10. Will you be working as a recount observer? -nt

[PeaceNikki]

12. Yes I will.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

15. :)

Me too & I'm excited

[PeaceNikki]

16. Then you should/would have been on conference call last night.

Which should offer you comfort in the way that the recount is happening, the fact that the bulk WILL be hand-counted and that all ballots will be inspected by observers for campaign.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

21. I am Cautiously Optimistic. Still not confident over automated machine recounts.

It is my understanding that where technology allows for a backup of original data, an automated machine recount will occur. In all other locations – areas in 31 counties – a hand recount will occur. If we will be able to view each original ballot in the areas that are being machine counted, I am happy. The conference call lasted over 3 hours and covered many subjects. If I misunderstood anything, sorry.

[pnwmom]

31. I'm glad for this news. Thanks for sharing! n/t

[eowyn_of_rohan]

34. Does the method by which Winnebago Co is counted bring you comfort?

Winnebago, like Waukesha, had notable anomalies according to the Kloppenburg campaign.

Winnebago is not among the 31 counties that will be required to count the ballots by hand under an agreement reached between the Prosser and Kloppenburg campaigns. Instead, the county’s recount involves feeding each of the ballots through a vote tabulating machine, with the exception of those that observers identify as needing to be counted by hand, typically because they were marked in some way other than filling in the circle next to the candidate’s name.

[PeaceNikki]

35. Again, all ballots will be examined by observers. So, yes.

We are instructed to view each ballot, ask that any with anomolies be hand-counted and use a click counter to count ballots being scanned.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

36. well maybe I am just paranoid!

I don't have a click counter and hope I can keep up.

[buddysmellgood]

19. Thanks! You rock.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

25. I am grateful to have the opportunity!

:)

[sybylla]

20. And even if there is no hand recount

the observers for the Kloppenburg campaign will ask to view each ballot before it's scanned.

[PeaceNikki]

23. Indeed. And if we are denied, they are breaking rules and GAB will be notified.

[blm]

27. Thank you for the insight....and thank you for using the Gadsden Flag for its ACTUAL meaning.

The Teaparty is clueless to its actual meaning of anti-imperialism. They are now acting as the useful idiots and pawns for the very privileged elite targeted by the flag's warning. The Bushes and their financial elite cronies were/are royalists at heart with a fascist endgame.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

29. Agreed- the t-baggers hijacked that flag.

At the anti-Palin protest a number of Union workers carried that flag as did many of the baggers. I was involved in a rather intense conversation over which group was more worthy to carry it.

[blm]

32. well, anyone who didn't fly it when Bush invaded Iraq is full of shit if they're hoisting it now...

The flag promotes ANTI-IMPERIALISM. That we would be a nation that would NEVER strike another country first, but, would strike BACK, swiftly and with precision, if attacked. It was a big FUCK YOU, King George - we aren't part of your imperial plan.

[blm]

14. They CLAIM 3, and only filed 1 that is showing widespread fraud. That 1 petition won't hold.

Prosser did NOT win.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

18. It is true that they filed 3 petitions against Hansen, Holperin, & Wirch

I didn't know widespread fraud had been proven on any of them. Do you have more info on that? Great news if true!

[blm]

24. Read last week that Tate told reporters he's certain many of GOP sigs gathered are fraudulent.

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[eowyn_of_rohan]

28. I would not be surprised - waiting for proof!

There was a call last week from the Dems for volunteers to enter all the data from the Thug-filed petitions. The response was so huge there was a line going down the block. People had to be turned away! All data entry was completed by last Saturday night.

[blm]

30. Saw this statement from Tate

"Mike Tate, the chairman of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, said the party would challenge the signatures on the conservatives' petitions.

"Until we get a chance to look at the sheets, which are being turned in today, we don't know," Tate said. "But I guarantee to the reporters on this call, there will be fraudulent signatures turned in."

[spooky3]

26. According to the article you posted Reps FILED 3.

[blm]

33. We'll see...hearing conflicting reports on whether they're actually filed and certainty that many

of the sigs will prove to be bogus as per Wis. Dem party.

[spooky3]

37. Those darn ACORN fraudsters must have gotten new jobs with the thugs, eh?

Funny how the Republicans have no problem with fraud - for their team.

[blm]

38. heheh....you know the basic truth... Repubs are almost always doing the exact crime they accuse Dems

Did I say almost? Most CERTAINLY doing would be more accurate.