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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 10:51 PM Original message |
Military legal expert: Obama's comments on Bradley Manning represent "unlawful command influence"! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. Surprise, surprise. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. The President caanot be charged under the UCMJ. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So that doesn't make him commander-in-chief of the US Armed Forces? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Oy vey. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. So why does "Command Influence" not apply to the commander of the U.S. Armed Forces? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. As I said show me in the UCMJ where it has jurisdiction of the President. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. You're missing the entire point here. Obama didn't commit a crime, he tainted the judge/jury pool. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Bullshit. You can't taint people with information they already knew beforehand. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Are you saying, rules are for the little people and not for the leader |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I am stating fact. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Obama doesn't need to be charged |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Don't bother, it's way over his head. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. It well may be over my head |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. You rock! |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Please point out in the article where anyone said anything about prosecuting Obama |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. "Why are people so fucking stupid." - Physician, heal thyself. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. That's not the point of the article! If you read the article you'll understand it! |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. They're not saying that he can be. They're saying that he's |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
15. Inexcusable for a constitutional scholar, serving as President, to make this error. n/t |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Add it to the list. |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
17. K&R |
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Rusticus Too (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
18. As a former Army JAG . . . |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
19. The relevant portion of UCMJ is Article 37: "Unlawfully influencing action of court" |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. BINGO! |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
21. So a comment made during a personal conversation with a civilian is now undue command influence? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. He said it in public at a reception. Oh, and on camera. |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Wrong. He said it at a private fundraiser, and it was captured on a *cell phone*. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. A "private" event attended by the public media and people who are not campaign contributors! |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Yes, a private, $5000 a ticket event |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. So did that person break into that "private" event? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. LOL, yes in public at a reception and on camera. n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Apparently, it was a 1990s mobile phone w/o a camera. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. People who are involved in active cases don't talk about them. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Yes. It was a public statement by the Commander in Chief of the armed forces at his public event. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
22. Right because no judge knew this admininstration believed Manning broke the law, beforehand. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. New plan... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. So, when did you serve as a JAG? |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
23. Perhaps he is trying to give the defense grounds |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Right. He's real big on civil liberties. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
34. maybe Obama did it on purpose.... |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. Don't make Obama mad. He might declare you a terrorist & have the CIA murder you w no due process. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 05:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. ! |
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