billyskank
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:40 PM
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Circumcision ban in San Francisco considered |
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SAN FRANCISCO — A group opposed to male circumcision said on Tuesday they have collected more than enough signatures to qualify a proposal to ban the practice in San Francisco as a ballot measure for November elections.
But legal experts said that even if it were approved by a majority of the city's voters, such a measure would almost certainly face a legal challenge as an unconstitutional infringement on freedom of religion. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42784426/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/?fb_ref=story_text&fb_source=other_multiline
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:42 PM
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1. Are they conciously trying to drive Jewish families out of the city? |
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:50 PM
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All the Jewish families can easily drive to the Peninsula, Marin, or the East Bay for the bris.
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JackRiddler
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Thu Apr-28-11 06:58 PM
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23. Absolutely wrong-headed response -- they're trying to end a practice of mutilation of infants. |
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:43 PM
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2. I agree, its an infringement on peoples freedom of religion |
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If you don't want you kid circumcised, then don't do it. But just like you don't like religious people shoving their views in your face, they don't like you shoving your views in their face
*You refers to people in general.
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:43 PM
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3. Stay out of people's personal decisions |
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This attempt to rule people's lives is as insane as the anti-abortionists. Period.
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Thu Apr-28-11 04:12 PM
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19. Women who exercise their right to choose |
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are making decisions about their OWN bodies. Under this proposal, men can likewise choose to have circumcision done on their OWN bodies.
The measure, which would only apply in San Francisco, would make it a misdemeanor crime to circumcise a boy before he is 18 years of age...
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JackRiddler
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Thu Apr-28-11 07:07 PM
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24. You mean, like the adult's decision whether they want to cut off a part of their own body? |
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I agree. No one should be allowed to make that decision for a human being -- not even their parents.
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Fri Apr-29-11 09:47 AM
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30. Yes, I mean parents' decision on their own infant minors' health and |
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and status.
No one should be circumcised later in life, so it's a decision parents need to make at the start. It's also a religious and cultural decision for some people. This law would directly violate religious freedom, since there is no health risk to circumcision that would bar it on health grounds.
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:46 PM
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4. you are just trying to shift from the birther issue, arent you? nt |
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:46 PM
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5. If this makes it onto the ballot, I'd be surprised if it won |
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That's one of the things about our clip-board democracy- it's fairly easy to get enough signatures for just about anything, it seems.
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:48 PM
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6. Hey, kids! New hotbutton topic over here! |
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:51 PM
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8. Looks like the issue has reached a tipping point |
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:52 PM
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9. Never mind freedom of religion, is everyone just now wiping their asses |
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with the Constitution? WTF? This is an issue for the bill of rights.
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Thu Apr-28-11 04:33 PM
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20. Religion is no excuse for child abuse. |
JackRiddler
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Thu Apr-28-11 07:08 PM
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25. The Constitution gives people the right to chop off the foreskins of the helpless? |
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:53 PM
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10. Burka, circumcision: One is completely reversible; one is not. |
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It's interesting to consider when you put the two issues side by side.
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:54 PM
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11. Three cheers for the nanny state. |
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:56 PM
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12. billyskank! How are you man? |
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Wed Apr-27-11 02:59 PM
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13. Here is a radical idea for these folks, if they don't want their sons circumcised |
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then make sure to inform the doctor when he is born.
This is the same sort of thinking that drives the anti-choice crowd.
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JackRiddler
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Thu Apr-28-11 07:09 PM
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26. What if the son doesn't want to have his penis mutilated? |
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Shouldn't that be a decision for the adult to make?
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Thu Apr-28-11 08:54 PM
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28. Parents make major health decisions on behalf of their minor children. |
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I have no problem with that.
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Thu Apr-28-11 10:21 PM
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29. Foreskin removal is not a health decision, any more than foot-binding would be. |
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People need to wake up from their destructive superstitions. It shouldn't require convincing.
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Wed Apr-27-11 03:01 PM
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14. Wondering how they intend to enforce this? Make everyone whip out his penis for inspection? |
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Thu Apr-28-11 12:49 PM
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15. billyskank! Where you been? |
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Thu Apr-28-11 01:05 PM
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:hi: good to see you here!
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Thu Apr-28-11 04:01 PM
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17. I'll guess that something like this... |
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Will make a lot easier to mention "uncut" as a topic of conversation in SF more frequently.
Not that's a bad thing for some.
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Thu Apr-28-11 04:04 PM
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18. Oh please. Even we incredibly nutty Bay Areans are making fun of this group |
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Everyone, please get your panties unknotted. It's not going to happen here.
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Thu Apr-28-11 07:10 PM
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27. Well then I am happy to side with the sane Bay Areans. |
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Thu Apr-28-11 04:33 PM
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21. Good. It is barbaric. |
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Thu Apr-28-11 06:56 PM
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How you doin'? Good to see you.
:hi:
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Fri Apr-29-11 09:55 AM
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31. More nannystate shit from the Bay |
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I used to love San Francisco - I wouldn't go there now for anything.
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