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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:22 PM
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CANADA, HERE I COME!
Dems in Massachusetts vote to strip collective bargaining???

I'm married, but if anyone knows of a good Mormon sect in Canada that's willing to marry us...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:30 PM
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1. I'm the one at the side of the road with my thumb out. Stop for me, won't you?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:31 PM
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2. And drop by and pick me up, I live right next to the US/Canada border.....

..... when I saw the Mass. story today, it became painfully apparent what a deep pile this country is in.



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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:32 PM
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3. Which Dems?
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:54 PM
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6. These ones:
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/04/27/house_votes_to_limit_bargaining_on_health_care/

The 111-to-42 vote followed tougher measures to broadly eliminate collective bargaining rights for public employees in Ohio, Wisconsin, and other states. But unlike those efforts, the push in Massachusetts was led by Democrats who have traditionally stood with labor to oppose any reduction in workers’ rights.

Unions fought hard to stop the bill, launching a radio ad that assailed the plan and warning legislators that if they voted for the measure, they could lose their union backing in the next election. After the vote, labor leaders accused House Speaker Robert A. DeLeo and other Democrats of turning their backs on public employees.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:35 PM
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4. Cardston, Alberta?
I'll bet you a dollar they support Harper. :D
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:39 PM
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5. .
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 05:40 PM by BlueJazz
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TheCanadianLiberal Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:57 PM
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7. There is no more room...
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 06:25 PM by TheCanadianLiberal
Canada is full. We don't have room for anyone new. And if you move here you're required by federal law to be able to build an igloo...and live in it.

The waiting list for a spot in Canada is 26 years. And the immigration test is being put in a tea making competition the queen judges.

I recommend you move to a different state like Maine.
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EmmettKelly Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 06:07 PM
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8. Why Canada? How come people always threaten to move to
Canada, they don't want us. Mexico either, they'd toss you in the pokey for up to 10 years for trying to take a job there.

Now if you're serious I'd suggest the workers paradise of Cuba, they might be more receptive to your plight.
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:02 PM
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11. Canada has...
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 07:20 PM by murphyj87
Canada has 9.27 people per square mile. The United States has 76 people per square mile. Won't be full for a long time.

Why Canada? More religious freedom than the United States has in practice. Universal unlimited health care which the United States is far from having. The RIGHT for the deaf and those who speak neither english or french to have a translator when appearing in court as a witness or a defendant, or when appearing before Parliament or a parliamentary commitee as a witness or for a presentation. This is just to start......

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/charter/

Canada is also highly unionized, and has a minimum wage averaging $9.50 CDN ($9.97 US).You can get Canada Pension at age 60, and any US Social Security premiums paid after 1981 can be transferred into the Canada Pension Plan (Canada-US pension agreement of 1981).
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:25 PM
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13. Countries want people that have skills that their citizens don't have
moving it. What do you have to offer Canada?
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:39 PM
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15. Canadians are...
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 08:33 PM by murphyj87
Canadians are generally equally or often more educated than Americans are and there are probably no skills that exist in the United States that don't exist in Canada. Because Canada has health care for everyone, adults (including middle aged adults) are likely to go back to university or community college to become more skilled while Americans don't generally have that opportunity.

The $15,000 a year than Canadians have in their pockets which Americans pay for massive health costs (which Canadians don't have) mean that Canadians can save to go back to school without having to get a student loan and have the health coverage at school as any Canadian has. Canadian taxes are .1% lower than American taxes but Canadian taxes include their health care, whereas Americans pay $15,000 a year for health costs (insurance, deductibles, copays) after they pay their taxes.
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Someguyinjapan Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:03 PM
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18. Beinga middle-aged Canadian
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 11:04 PM by Someguyinjapan
Does not give one an inherent advantage over middle-aged Americans in getting a post-secondary education.

Yes, Canada does have universal health care and while that many off-set a significant cost, it does not negate others like tuition and the cost of living. Also, it could be argued that Canadian universities have less funding available in terms of grants, bursaries and scholarships than American ones. I graduated from 3universities in Canada and saw very few middle-aged students, comparatively speaking, so I am not sure what you are basing your conclusion on.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 06:10 PM
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9. Weren't workers in America once represented by a political party? What was it called?
I knew the Corporations already have a party. It's called the Republicon.

Why would they want both?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 06:20 PM
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10. Recommend - should be a chilling sign to tell people where dems are. Nt
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:04 PM
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12. Bye!
When ya leaving?
:hi:
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:27 PM
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14. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. And if Canada does not take you,
find a country that will. I prefer to stay and fight for my homeland.
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:41 PM
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16. Lots of Americans can't.. they live in exile.....
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:50 PM
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17. Oh really? And exactly WHAT have YOU done to "fight for my homeland"?
Posting on a message board doesn't count.

I've done phonebanking, canvassed and donated money to candidates and causes. I've been a state delegate and a member on the Executive committee in 2 states.

Don't insinuate that I've been sitting on my fat ass not fighting.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:37 PM
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19. No, were saying you are giving up...
cause you are.

Not that it matters. These are mostly empty threats, and only the privileged can move to a place like Canada generally anyways, so the sympathy for those who can is pretty low.
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