The birthers are gonna switch to "Natural Born" BS -- hahaha!!

[K8-EEE]

The Republican Party is going to have to finally deal with this or just be the OFFICIAL PARTY OF NUTBALLS!

http://www.birthers.org/

After making a huge federal case over the BC, birthers now realize it doesn't matter b/c he's not "natural born" and no child that has one parent who's an immigrant/non citizen can ever be President.

Oh man Texas will be a blue state by the time these assholes get done with their little agenda. BRING IT ON!

[my2sense]

1. SMH at the crazy n/t

[K8-EEE]

3. Ridin' the crazy train my friend! nt

[Warren DeMontague]

2. They honestly think that most Americans simply haven't figured out that he's not white.

If! They! Just! Knew!!!! He's! Not! One! Of! US!!!!


:eyes:

[K8-EEE]

5. He's not a "real American" if you know what I mean

God they are so transparent.

[K8-EEE]

4. "This part is over, forgery or not..."LOL

OH BROTHER!! God they are like children.

[fishwax]

6. yeah, total nutjobs

:rofl:

And totally unsurprising, as well. :eyes:

[aquart]

7. Are they saying he was Caesarean?

What does "natural born" mean? Of course, "natural" meant "idiot" in Shakespeare's time.

[mrcheerful]

8. Well for crispy critters don't tell them that someday one of those illegal anchor babies could get

himself elected I don't think the sound of popping heads will end for days. After all an illegal can have its child born on US soil and that child is an American citizen by birth regardless of where either parent is from. Hence the term natural born citizen.

[badgerpup]

18. Huh...

By that...er...for lack of a better word "logic" and by their very own criteria, an illegal anchor baby has AZACKLY the qualifications they're demanding to become POTUS.

:wtf:

Yes indeed...from their manifesto:

"A natural born citizen is a person born with unalienable and undivided allegiance to the United States of America."
(emphasis mine)

Kid born here as an anchor has quite the vested interest in having allegiance to the US of A, wouldn't ya think?


And here's another thing...and this sort of thing REALLY bothers me (my major was psychology, my minor was biology, what can I say...:shrug: )

NOBODY and I mean nobody...is 'born' with allegiance to ANYTHING.
It is not hard-wired into the system; neither instinct or genetic inheritance/progamming.

Allying or making common cause with a group is a learned social behavior, done to benefit the individual...and in more evolved groups, to benefit the group/society as a whole.
But you LEARN it; you ain't born with it.

Some people never do get the hang of it...that's where we get our sociopathic and psychopathic personalities.

Geez, what DO they teach them in schools these days....:eyes:
Oh yeah.... :blush:

Nevermind.

[mrcheerful]

27. Remember birthers are just dumb R's trying very hard to not sound racist

because since 1964 they learned that anything they say racial will hang them and gain them no support. They hide racism behind the birth issue but their racism fools few, look at how many of them also think Obama isn't smart enough to be president yet at the same time they cheer people like Rush, Bachman, Beck and Palin for their superior intelligence, that goes right into their belief that blacks are not as intelligent as whites.

Then there is the issue of Obama SR, who is not only black but he is a black African and everyone knows, according to racists, that they are just naked savages with very low intelligence because they haven't advanced past the stone age unless they had help from whites like in south Africa. Which brings us to Obamas mother, they try to say by mom not being 21 that she can't transfer citizenship to Obama, but notice natural citizenship never mentions age as a requirement for citizenship, the reason is up until the late 70's no one saw a problem with girls as young as 12 in some states to be legally married, in most states age of consent was 17 for females, 21 for males with a clause for 16 year olds to be allowed to marry with parents consent.

So because Obamas mother was 17 when she married Obamas father it was illegal marriage which null and voids automatic citizenship, again a belief with nothing to prove that belief except the law changes to age of consent after the 70's and isn't in the natural born citizenship requirement. I've also heard many birthers claim that because interracial marriages were illegal in some states before 1964 Obamas parents weren't married legally so therefore citizenship can't be given to their off spring, again not a requirement for natural citizenship and only certain states had laws on the books that wouldn't acknowledge interracial marriages.

Then theirs the birthers who look at Obamas mothers age along with the interracial laws makes Obamas father a child molester and rapist so that null and voids Obamas natural born citizenship, yet again not a requirement for natural born citizenship. So in the end the only logical conclusion is birthers are just plain old everyday racists who don't want a black president but know that if they used that for their argument they lose. BTW, I grew up around racists from the Jim crow law era and those are the worst of the worst racists you ever want to meet, but your right it is a learned behavior that is not hard wired into people, they learn it from others and when their beliefs are challenged they go into flight or fight mode which makes them unstable and dangerous.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. No, they are NOT dumb, they're racist

it is that simple

[mrcheerful]

35. Anyone who votes against their own interests is dumb in my book

[mrcheerful]

36. Anyone who votes against their own interests is dumb

in my book
sorry it double posted on me

[NoGOPZone]

37. The two often go together nt

[Keith Bee]

10. Beat me to it

I'll never be Prez! :cry:

[Maraya1969]

13. Oh wow. Neither will I. How terribly terribly......um what?

[eShirl]

11. lol MacBeth

Be bloody, bold, and resolute; laugh to scorn
The power of man, for none of woman born
Shall harm Macbeth.

[provis99]

9. so birthers think Donald Trump can't be president?

Trump's mother was Scottish. Geez, birthers are stupid. Now their argument can be used to shoot down the lead birther himself.

[K8-EEE]

28. OMG that is hilarious I didn't know that! bwa hahaha!

The Donald is not a "natural born citizen!"

[DeschutesRiver]

30. Not only is his mother Scottish by birth, Trump has only shown

the paper that his birth hospital produced (which lists his mother's birth place as Scotland, which was a hoot to see).

Trump has never shown any official birth certificate from the state of New York (who is the only one that can issue such a thing), neither in short form or long form.

Wonder what is in his official b.c. that he doesn't want anyone to see - must be something, otherwise he would have shown it. I've ordered my b.c. from my state before, to get a passport. It isn't hard at all, so there is a reason that a guy who is questioning another guy's short form vs. long form b.c. wouldn't have his ready to show the world, instead of some hospital statement.

[w8liftinglady]

12. lol...um,yeah-especially since like 75% of Texans are kids of "feriners"

Germans and Czechs settled towns all over Central Texas.So THEIR kids can't be president?

[Maraya1969]

14. They are only talking about the first generation right? Or does your family have

to have been here when the Declaration of Independence was written?

[WolverineDG]

25. Don't forget those of us born south of the Nueces River

aka "Occupied Mexico" har har har

:eyes:

We're not "real" Americans either, I've been told time & again.

dg

[unblock]

15. it's all about schoolyard taunts. schoolyard taunts don't need to be fact-based.

facts can sometimes make for BETTER schoolyard taunts, but it's hardly a requirement.

they just wanna say something rotten about the president, so they're gonna find something rotten to say.

[B Calm]

16. You are forgetting one thing, REPUBLICANS are followers. They obey

and do whatever their rulers say.

[spinbaby]

17. Neither of my parents was a citizen when I was born in NJ

Apparently that makes me an illegal alien.

[leftynyc]

19. There are only two

types of citizenship for Americans (AS SPELLED OUT QUITE CLEARLY IN THE 14TH AMENDMENT) - those born here and those who are naturalized. Just hand them a copy of the constitution and ask them to find where they are getting their info from.

[Jim Lane]

38. No, there's a third category.

The Fourteenth Amendment didn't change the principle that citizenship could be conferred at birth through one's ancestry, regardless of the place of birth. So, for example, John McCain wasn't born in the U.S. and was never naturalized, but he's a citizen, and a natural-born citizen at that, because both of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth.

[bluethruandthru]

20. Anyone I know who continues to "express their doubt"

about Obama's birth certificate, "natural born" status, etc....I will tell them that it's time to just own up to what they are...racists! Rather than working so hard to prove how stupid they are...they should just admit that they don't like the fact that we have a black President. Their choices are to proudly wear their badge of stupidity...or their racism.

[JoePhilly]

21. The should now be called "After-Birthers"

[quinnox]

22. LOL

Jesus, this needs to be played up by the Democrats big time. Every time they are debating on tv or news shows, ask the republican representative how they feel about this wacky theory.

[Generic Other]

23. They are fucking batshit racist crazy xenophobic looneys

They are stirring an ugly mess of pottage by bringing this shit up!

[sinkingfeeling]

24. Except for the 5 or 6 we've already had?

[Moostache]

26. Call them out for what they are....RACISTS and BIGOTS

My nutcase brother-in-law is a rabid WND reader and he is insufferable to be around. I hardly ever see my sister or my niece and nephew because of it. He is a total conspiracy theory right wing nut bag and it literally takes him SECONDS to start rattling off all the reasons why Obama is this/that/the other and how someone is only "days away from breaking this whole thing open now"...

The linchpin for me though was after the campaign's St. Louis event (the one under the Gateway Arch that drew about 100,000 people to downtown St. Louis about a month before the election in 2008). He and one of his asshole trust-fund baby friends were yucking it up about how Obama had "bussed them (which is how these Emmy-award winners discuss ALL black people, with the dismissive and indefinite description of 'them') in from Chicago to make the event look like anyone cared" and then later how "there hadn't been that many of them down on the river since 'the trading days' (in reference to the slave trade and bringing slaves up the Mississippi for auction)". It was pretty much that day that sealed the deal for me and cut my contact with them from occasional to "only when unavoidable or on a specific holiday".

The sad thing is that their warped views are not considered unacceptable by ANY of their right wing asshole friends and when I asked him about why he thought that was OK to teach his chlidren he got pissed off. Pains me to not see my sister and her kids as much as I should, but I can't in good conscience subject my kids to that kind of thinking and acting.

[Puzzler]

31. Is this a real site or a spoof??? ... I can't tell...

... seriously this is f**ked up.

[LynneSin]

32. Jackson, Wilson, Hoover, Buchanon, Arthur and Jefferson

Look up their parents.

In fact look up both of Jackson's parents. (Neither was a US citizen)

Then again these people had parents from nice 'white' places like Canada or Europe.

I really hate stupid people who think up this shit without googling first.

[DefenseLawyer]

33. Sorry Thomas Jefferson, you lose.

I can't believe his bitter rival John Adams never caught that.

[flamingdem]

34. thanks for the giggle nt