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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:14 PM
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Is Massachusetts the next Wisconsin?
Earlier this week, the Democratic-controlled House in Massachusetts passed a bill limiting collective bargaining rights on health care for municipal employees. Unions are outraged; conservatives are cheering, but they agree: like Wisconsin, this blue state has launched an assault on unionized public employees. Democrats in the state say they’re both wrong.

The bill means that cities and towns could make alterations or cuts to municipal workers’ health care plans unilaterally. Unions would still get 30 days to discuss changes to their health plans with local officials, a last minute concession, but the local government has the final say. If union members object to the plan, they would get 20 percent of the savings for one year. Their new plans could not include higher co-pays or deductibles than the lower-cost Group Insurance Commission to which state workers and legislators belong without collective bargaining.

It doesn’t go nearly as far as Wisconsin’s law, which eliminated all collective bargaining for most public workers. Massachusetts unions don’t see ‘not as bad’ as a good deal; they fought hard against the legislation. Massachusetts AFL-CIO president Robert Haynes called the decision “stunning.” The bill passed 111 to 42, with 81 Democrats voting in favor. Unions supported many of those legislators, and they feel betrayed.

Democrats in state leadership are pushing back. “This is not Wisconsin,” said Gov. Deval Patrick in an interview on Wednesday. “I’m not going to sign a Wisconsin-type bill in the end. We’re going to have a meaningful role for labor, and we’re going to deliver on the savings for municipalities.” Patrick himself introduced a similar plan in January.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/is-massachusetts-the-next-wisconsin/2011/04/28/AFaBR76E_blog.html
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:18 PM
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1. Thank goodness Massachusetts has a good governor
else they'd be screwed and by the home team at that
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:31 PM
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5. 111-42 seems to take the governor out of the picture
What does the Senate make-up look like?
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:46 PM
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6. A good governor? He hasn't accomplished anything important
except make himself quite a bit of money with a book that he is traveling around promoting.

He also raised the cap on charter schools. Isn't that terrific.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:28 PM
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11. sounds a lot like his buddy-O
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:03 PM
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7. Uhhhmmm....


Patrick defends House health bill

Governor Deval Patrick chided labor leaders yesterday for comparing the House plan to curb collective bargaining rights to a tougher law passed recently in Wisconsin.

“It’s very important that we dial down the rhetoric,’’ he said. “This is not Wisconsin. That’s not what the House did. I’m not going to sign a Wisconsin-type bill in the end.’’

The governor was speaking hours after House lawmakers approved a bill that would limit the ability of municipal employees to bargain over their health care plans, in an effort to save cities and towns $100 million.



http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/04/28/patrick_defends_bill_curbing_union_rights/

It's not as bad as the WI bill, but it's not like Patrick has the unions back either.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:24 PM
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2. I wonder if this could be a way to push back against many right-wing conservative mayors.
Giving them the rope they need to turn the unions against them.


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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:25 PM
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3. What is going on up there in the BLUE state of Mass? First a GOPer
is elected Senator and now this. If this kind of illegitimate democracy can take place there, we're all screwed.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:28 PM
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4. delete
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 02:40 PM by politicasista
comment too divisive
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:10 PM
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8. The problem is that the Democrats are so entrenched.
People vote against them (i.e. vote Republican) to "send a message". The corruption is associated with the Democrats, because they are in charge.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:16 PM
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9. rec'd for the guvs statements - he sure beats the riff raff that we had before
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:21 PM
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10. idiot frauds... well, say good bye to union voters you morons!
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:12 PM
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12. Sounds like Mass is being abandoned
By DINOs.
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