This DoD-CIA leadership swap makes me really nervous

[Stinky The Clown]

Are these two the only possible choices? Were any other choices considered?

What about a guy like Wes Clark?

[montanacowboy]

1. Petraus being groomed for Emperor

he will probably run on the repuke ticket -
now all the coziness of DOD and CIA , whoopie

[Better Believe It]

5. Petraus would be acceptable to many Democratic politicians and their funders.

Hell, he's acceptable to Obama!

[EFerrari]

2. Wes Clark is probably not dirty enough to run CIA. n/t

[leftstreet]

3. Why worry about corruption? Just put the criminals directly in charge!

:banghead:

[Freddie Stubbs]

6. What crimes are Leon Panetta guilty of?

[leftstreet]

7. He gives great cover for criminals involved in torture

He advises that everyone consider "the reality" of 9/11 and "looking forward, not back" and away from investigations.

please

[EFerrari]

9. Is CIA or DIA running drones in Pakistan?

I really don't know. Also, there was Jeremy Scahill's story about our bombing in Yemen. Same question. Since Obama took office, CIA has been more active in Latin America, specifically in Honduras and Ecuador. It will likely be a while before the specifics get out.

Panetta has also continued to hide the CIA torture program. The black site at Bagram is still open.

[defendandprotect]

14. Crimes? How many cover ups has he been involved in?

Presumably CIA, as well --

[NightWatcher]

4. just proves what I've known all along. The DoD is the enforcement arm of the CIA

Gone are the days of tiny Central American coups funded, staffed, and supported by little CIA OPS. Now we'll send in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines

[EFerrari]

10. Well, it's more like a cycling back to sending in the Marines. nt

[Hutzpa]

8. I think Gen. Petraeus

Has proven himself and is a better participant for this position, besides I think the intelligence community has too many Rogue
Agents roaming about the place that needs reeling in, that is my opinion anyway and the agency needs some type of military
discipline.



That is my 2 cents.

[defendandprotect]

13. "Up" is "Down," eh? This is more militarization of the CIA --

CIA should be a civilian position -- not military --

One question we might ask is ...

"How many CIA presidents have we had so far?"

[EmmettKelly]

11. Just doing the job that Rummy wanted done, consolidate

the intelligence apparatus in the Pentagon. Streamline it and bury it out of (over)sight.

[defendandprotect]

12. It's ridiculous .... but look at the rest of the Obama team -- !!! Same fingerprints ... !!!

One question we might ask is ..

How many CIA presidents have we had so far?

[DainBramaged]

15. Keep Petraeus out of the Presidential race, simple.

[Fire Walk With Me]

16. There are likely at least a couple of HWBush-friendly CIA persons who are unhappy about this.

I've been waiting to see how Obama approaches the topic of the CIA, and now it begins to show.

[Stinky The Clown]

19. Not sure to what you're alluding.

GHWB connections vis a vis Obama? I'm not following.

[Fire Walk With Me]

20. HWBush was director of the CIA and helped Reagan do the Iran deal

then later the Iran/Contra stuff, etc. etc. etc.

I believe that the Bush family still have faithful people in the CIA, and through them, their fingers on any number of things. That, and through their ties with the extremely rich world-wide. Some sort of New World Order...

Let's see...Neil Bush helped destroy Silverado Savings and Loan and the taxpayers covered it. George Bush created any number of failed businesses and profited from them. George Bush tried for six months to get us to allow Wall Street to control the Social Security money (thankfully, we said NO to that). Bush later gives Wall Street and banks tons of money and we nearly get the second Great Depression. Obama headed that one off.

All I see of the Bush family and their close money buddies is profit from destruction and political power grabs through nefarious means. Disaster Capitalism turned upon the USA itself. I've digressed too far to present examples of the -results- of Bush family actions but all of this together stinks to high heaven, and there has to be a common thread somewhere. I'm hoping that if there are a couple of persons in the CIA still loyal to Bush at those levels, that they are soon rooted out and exposed for everyone to see.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. All of that is common knowledge

Much of that is seen by many to be pure tin foil hat stuff.

All of that being what it is, what does any of it have to do with Obama's DoD/CIA leadership shift?

[Fire Walk With Me]

22. It is all true, that the Bush family has been profiting from tragedy, as has Cheney, etc.

Bush Sr. involved directly as head of the CIA with major, perhaps treasonous processes for political gain...with the recognition of the process of Disaster Capitalism and the oil grab in Iraq (and the funneling of major taxpayer funds into the hands of Bush and Cheney favorite companies and friend's companies) and with Enron a significant Bush campaign advisor and contributor...it is no difficult leap to seeing that this is all on purpose and by design. Even daddy Bush declared a New World Order, likely one of the very rich gaining more power and riches. And that is exactly what has been going on.

That daddy Bush might still have significant support from old friends in the CIA isn't a long shot. We'll have to see. And to your question, Obama might be able to find out through these new director assignments.

Edit: Have you seen "Fahrenheit 9/11" and "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room"? Required viewing, even if you go no further in regard to considering conspiracies, etc. It is by far bad enough as it is.

[Rex]

17. Meh, they are both failures as institutions and should be replaced.

That line of thinking will earn you a bullet and a quick burial.

[midnight]

18. K&R

[kentuck]

23. It's all politics..

Panetta has a knack for making cuts and Petraeus will not be a political threat as VP or President on the Republican ticket if he is busy at CIA...