Denmark scientist accused of stealing autism rsech. money(headed research disprv.vacc/aut. link)

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ATLANTA | Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:35pm EDT

ATLANTA (Reuters) - A scientist in Denmark has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Atlanta for allegedly stealing $1 million in grant money that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had earmarked for autism research.

U.S. prosecutors on Wednesday said they are seeking to extradite Poul Thorsen, 49, accused of wire fraud and money laundering.

He used the stolen money to buy a home in Atlanta, a Harley Davidson motorcycle and two cars, prosecutors said

MORE at link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/13/us-crime-research-funds-idUSTRE73C8JJ20110413

Poul Thorsen is part author of the famous "Danish Study" entitled "Thimerosal and the occurrence of autism: negative ecological evidence from Danish population-based data." (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12949291)

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1. greed

[truedelphi]

2. Andrew Wakefield, after all they put you through, I hope

You can relax now that it is proven that the vaccine industries lap dogs are the real problem.

Thank you Mr Wakefield for your exemplary research.

You never tried to be the gold standard, you just hoped that as far as your modest body of work, the vaccine industry would step in where you stepped off, and make the larger scale studies that were needed.

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4. you forgot this

:sarcasm:

[truedelphi]

7. Excuse me?

The parents who took the time to review his work concluded that his description of what their children had gone through after the MMR was spot on. While industry told the parents that the fault was in the genes they had offered their child at conception, and has until this date offered no full description of what happens to a child immediately after the MMR vaccine exposure causes their child to become ill. (Autism is not genetic - we know that because identical twins will have one twin become autistic and one twin won't.)

Wakefield has remained beloved of many vaccine activists. Just as Caldicott remains beloved for many activists.

When you get a chance to watch all six hours of his C SPan recorded testimony before Senator Burton in the Committe of Oversight back in the mid nineties, let me know. In the video you will see - THAT IS THE REAL MAN. THOSE ARE THE REAL PARENTS. AND THE LIES THAT THE VACCINE INDUSTRY PERPETUATES ARE JUST THAT - LIES from the same class of liars that brought us "Weapons of Mass Destruction."

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8. So the parents in a minimal study group are now experts?

did they stay at a Holiday Inn?

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10. Why are you putting words in my post that are not there?

No the parents are not experts, they are people who trusted one of the most deceitful industries on earth. An industry that still is lying through its teeth about the fact that the most miniscule amount of mercury in a vaccine can hurt a child.

Especially when the very health workers that administer the vaccine material do not even shake up each vial of vaccine material before putting a new needle in the vial! This means some kids end up with a dose of mercury one hundred times the amount the next child will get.

The parents who testified before the two members of the Senate who had Wakefield flown to Washington DC were only expressing their personal observations and their personal opinion. They were not saying "I answer for all parents." Rather they were saying, "This man understands what happened to my child." And as parents they certainly have the right to their opinion.

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12. The people who believe Wakefield's garbage have the right to their opinion, just like the birthers

have the right to their opinion (and those that disbelieve evolution, global warming, the fact that we have been to the moon, etc).

That doesn't mean any of the above opinions is somehow less insane (or should be taken less seriously) than any other.

[mzteris]

9. nope

Wakefield is a total fraud who has endangered the lives of thousands.

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Wow. You may want to rethink that statement about twins and genetics.

Having the genetic makeup that leads to a condition like autism doesn't mean both twins will definitely be autistic.

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13. I am more convinced by the research in the mid nineties regarding autism

And the Amish.

Amish don't get vaccinated, and surprise surprise surprise - Amish don't get autism in anywhere near the numbers that we "English" do.

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14. Guess what? The Amish vaccinate!

". . . “The idea that the Amish do not vaccinate their children is untrue,” says Dr. Kevin Strauss, MD, a pediatrician at the CSC. “We run a weekly vaccination clinic and it’s very busy.” He says Amish vaccinations rates are lower than the general population’s, but younger Amish are more likely to be vaccinated than older generations.



Strauss also sees plenty of Amish children showing symptoms of autism. “Autism isn’t a diagnosis - it’s a description of behavior. We see autistic behaviors along with seizure disorders or mental retardation or a genetic disorder, where the autism is part of a more complicated clinical spectrum.” Fragile X syndrome and Retts is also common among the clinic’s patients.

. . . Strauss adds that the Amish have a high prevalence of genetic risk factors and are protected from others. The low rate of idiopathic autism “might have more to do what genetic structure of population than lifestyle, environment or diet.” http://combatingautismfromwithin.blogspot.com/2008/01/guess-what-amish-vaccinate.html


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The question of autism amongst the Amish has been studied and is being presented at the IMFAR autism conference this week. The paper, Prevalence Rates of Autism Spectrum Disorders Among the Old Order Amish, demonstrates a preliminary prevalence of 1 in 271 as the prevalence of autism amongst Amish children in two Amish communities: Holmes County, Ohio and Elkhart-Lagrange County, Indiana.

. . .From September 2008 to October 2009, 1899 Amish children were screened in the two Amish communities. A total of 25 children screened positive for ASD on either the SCQ or the DSM-IV-TR checklist. A total of 14 screened positive for ASD on both screeners. Of those 25 children, 14 were evaluated and seven children were confirmed as having a diagnosis of ASD using the ADI and/or ADOS, and clinical judgment. Interestingly, four of the seven only met ASD criteria on the ADOS but not the ADI. Three of the four who were not diagnosed by the ADI only missed criteria on the Behavioral Domain, which may be attributable to the reporting style of Amish caregivers.

Conclusions:

Preliminary data have identified the presence of ASD in the Amish community at a rate of approximately 1 in 271 children using standard ASD screening and diagnostic tools although some modifications may be in order. Further studies are underway to address the cultural norms and customs that may be playing a role in the reporting style of caregivers, as observed by the ADI. Accurate determination of the ASD phenotype in the Amish is a first step in the design of genetic studies of ASD in this population.


http://www.opposingviews.com/i/myth-amish-don-t-have-autism


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interesting symptoms for this:

Gene Discovered for Newly Recognized Disease in Amish Children

ScienceDaily (Mar. 15, 2010)

". . . The identification of the new multisystem autoimmune disorder and the recessive gene that causes it have been published early online and are reported in the 12 March 2010 print issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics.

The quest began when Jean P. Molleston, M.D., examined a young Amish boy whose family was looking for answers to why the child was not growing well, was developmentally delayed, had chronic diarrhea, and looked different from other children. In spite of numerous medical tests, which confirmed an enlarged liver and spleen, the cause of his multiple medical problems went undefined.

The search gained impetus for Dr. Molleston, an IU School of Medicine professor of pediatrics and Riley Hospital gastroenterologist, when a younger sibling was born with the same characteristics. Shortly thereafter, it also was recognized that a young cousin had similar problems.

. . . Soon they were aware of a total of ten (7 boys and 3 girls) Amish children, with the oldest in his early twenties, who had the unrecognized multisystem disease. All the children were Indiana Old Order Amish (although some no longer lived in Indiana) and were related. . ." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100308132132.htm

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16. Mercury is the connection - whether vaccine material is the originating

MAterial or some other factor. (Wopod stainds, wood preservatives used to contain mercury and arsenic and a host of other nasties.)

Here's what Dan Olmsted a reporter for UPI said back in 2005:


The Age of Autism: Mercury and the Amish

By Dan Olmsted
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL

Washington, DC, May. 20 (UPI) -- The cases of autism among the Amish that I've identified over the past several weeks appear to have at least one link -- a link made of mercury. That's not something I expected to encounter. I had been looking for an unvaccinated population to test the controversial idea that vaccines, and in particular the mercury-based preservative called thimerosal, could be behind the apparent rise in autism cases over the past decade.

The concept: If the Amish have little or no autism, it might point a finger at something to which they have not been exposed.
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So I turned to the 22,000 Amish in Lancaster County, Pa. I didn't expect to find many, if any, vaccinated Amish: they have a religious
exemption from the otherwise mandatory U.S. vaccination schedule. When German measles broke out among Amish in Pennsylvania in
1991, the CDC reported that just one of 51 pregnant women they studied had ever been vaccinated against it.

To cut to the chase, what I've found to date is very little evidence of autism among the Amish in Lancaster County, far below the 1 in 166
rate of Autism Spectrum Disorders the CDC cites for children born in the United States today. I don't discount the idea that they might be
more difficult to find or diagnose, and I'm still looking.

That mother said a minority of younger Amish have begun getting their children vaccinated, though a local doctor who has treated thousands
of Amish said the rate is still less than 1 percent.

The pattern I was noticing then took an interesting twist. From a doctor's posting on an alternative health Web site, I learned about several cases of autism among Amish children who had not, in fact, been vaccinated.

I called that doctor, Lawrence Leichtman, at his office in Virginia Beach, Va. A pediatrician and geneticist who has been widely published in
medical journals, he told me he was treating six unvaccinated Amish children and adolescents -- three from Pennsylvania, including one from
Lancaster County; two from Ohio, and one from Texas.

That seemed to render any relationship between autism and mercury exposure in the Amish less likely. But, not after what Leichtman said
next.

"By the way," he volunteered, "four of these six kids all have elevated mercury. The only two that don't, one of them is from Texas and one
is from Iowa. But all of the people in Pennsylvania and one of the people in Iowa have elevated mercury." Given what I had already come across in Lancaster County, I wanted to hear more about that. Were the mercury levels significantly higher? I asked. "Oh yes," he responded.

What did he think was going on? "The people in Pennsylvania, I've actually tracked back on them," Leichtman said. "There's definitely a plume from one of the coal-fired power plants that just goes right over them. And the one in Iowa, it's a little less obvious because actually he's in the Amana Colonies, but I have seen reports of the area around Amana having elevated levels of mercury in the environment." As it happens, the Pittsburgh Post reported last week that Pennsylvania has four of the nation's 10 "dirtiest power plants." Mercury is a byproduct of coal combustion.

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. Extradite him from where?

Is he in Denmark or Atlanta now?

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5. Hey, just because it's fraudulent, doesn't mean the PR depts can't make it true.

[MineralMan]

6. Nice. Right in there with the many alternative medicine folks

who milk people's fears to make money by selling them useless stuff. Wonderful! I'm thinking specifically of Mercola.

[lumberjack_jeff]

15. Goddamn charlatans.

This is really depressing. Is there any research taking place which isn't intended for personal enrichment or by the legal department of pharma?