Romney says he’ll “hang” Obama at GOP group dinner

[Donnachaidh]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/30/romney-says-hell-hang-obama-at-gop-group-dinner/

In a speech at the pro-GOP Americans for Prosperity dinner, former Massachusetts governor and contender for the GOP presidential nomination Mitt Romney said he would "hang" Obama, then immediately realized his gaffe and tried to smooth over his mistake. His spokeswoman said the blunder was not meant to be malicious.

Referring to Ronald Reagan's "misery index" that he wanted to "hang around Jimmy Carter's neck" in the 1980 presidential election, Romney said of Obama, "Well, we’re going to have to hang the ‘Obama Misery Index’ around his neck.”
Romney continued, “We’re going to hang him — ” before pausing, Politico reported, then continuing and clarifying. “So to speak — metaphorically. You have to be careful.”
The implications of mentioning "hanging" in reference to an African-American are not positive.
Romney's spokeswoman, Andrea Saul, told Politico that the comment was not intended to be malicious.
“It is not what the governor meant and that was very clear in what he actually said,” she said. "It’s a ridiculous exaggeration of his actual comments.”


:wow: :wow: :wow:

[monmouth]

1. I don't think it was meant to be malicios either..He is not an articulate speaker..n/t

[Kurovski]

5. Not buying it. it's not an excuse. Not when the pres gets more death threats

than any other in history.

\\Mitt is a Stochastic Terrorist. He needs to pay closer attention to the fact that we will attack any Republican on these "gaffs".

[GReedDiamond]

29. Sorry, but I, personally, am no longer...

...capable of giving these vile, far-right political hacks the benefit of the doubt.

They (all of them) are racist/fascist to their Rethug/Teabagger collective core.

When they say racist crap like that, it is not an "unfortunate, unintended use of words," or however they try to dismiss their bullshit.

They mean it, and they ain't playin' around.

It is way past time to call them on it, whoever they are, whenever they spew their poisonous vitriol, every time they do it.

[Kurovski]

31. +1

Every time they do it. let their mother's give them the benefit of the doubt, he's not my dear papa with a sip too much sherry that's led him to mispeak.

He's a terrorist. A lazy one at that.

[L0oniX]

81. Never miss an opportunity to put repukes on the defensive.

[Kurovski]

84. +100

[ixion]

2. They always think they're being sly and clever and witty, when really they're being

patently and quite openly racist.

[Kurovski]

3. In General Discussion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x995116

[Atman]

4. Of course it wasn't "meant to be" malicious. It came from his heart.

Racism is deep. When you spout it, you rarely realize you're being racist. Because it's part of you.

[baldguy]

6. Of course he didn't mean THAT....

[The Wielding Truth]

7. It is disgusts me how nasty republicans can be.

[OKNancy]

8. misleading headline

There are several other articles on DU about this. God knows I dislike Romney, but I really believe he slipped up and it wasn't meant as malicious.
IMO, making this a big deal is as bad as what the other side does.

[Kurovski]

32. your false equivalency is almost as sickening as Romney's racist statement.

It feels great to be magnanimous, but sometimes it's a DEAD end.

[Kurovski]

55. Too late to edit that, Nancy, but...

it's your opinion and it's not sickening. Please forgive my over-reaction. I will understand if you don't.

Again, I'm sorry.

[L0oniX]

82. ..and I am sure they hate getting some of their own medicine.

[onehandle]

9. I've been saying for two years that it will be Mittens against Obama.

Having second thoughts.

[Catherine Vincent]

10. Big talk for someone that needs to win the Republican nomination first

n/t

[bluestate10]

11. Romney is an idiot. Once republicans nominate him, that will become obvious

to the nation. His "jobs plan" while a venture capitalist was to fire workers and outsource their jobs to low wage countries. All of that will come back at Romney once republicans nominate Romney. Romney won a gubernatorial race because democrats nominated a weak candidate that did not go after Romney, President Obama and his team won't make the same mistake.

[Brigid]

12. They're not even trying to hide it anymore, are they?

Oh, good Lord. X(

[Raschel]

23. Crazy sn't it?

[OHdem10]

13. I believe he said he was going to hang some issue on Obama.

We should be careful about trying to read things into
people's statements.

The GOP put their foot in their mouth enough times.
We do not have to look very hard.

Romney has been one who stayed away from Birther and
racial politics. The Media has picked up on this.
We hurt ourselves falsely accusing.

[Kurovski]

42. If you say you are going to "hang something around his neck" and are speaking of a Black president..

you are engaging in dog whistle politics. Racism and bigotry is the way the Republicans have done it for decades.

I think you are being somewhat naive. There are no scout patches for that.

[MadMaddie]

14. Even if it was a careless gaff we can no longer accept his

or other Republigans backtracking. Why? For the last 3 years there has been gaff after gaff and tons of "I didn't mean it that way". I don't buy it anymore today then I did then. They are seeing how far they can push the envelope before they have to walk it back. This is a dangerous game they play and we are obligated to put a stop to it by holding them accountable for it. We are responible to make sure they are not rewarded for this behavior.

[blondeatlast]

27. "...how far they can push the envelope." EXACTLY.

It's not just racism and bigotry, it's the entire divide and conquer strategy.

The tell is the shock they feel when they ARE challenged on the hate, it's always, "Who, me?"

Yes, bigoted hateful asshole--YOU.

[Kurovski]

92. This sentence of MadMaddie's:

"We are responsible to make sure they are not rewarded for this behavior"

[AsahinaKimi]

15. He may as well have used the word

"lynched". Didn't someone else use that once? WTF are they all closet racists?

[MadMaddie]

16. They are not closeted anymore

they feel comfortable making their, "gaffs"!

[WatsonT]

37. Really?

Saying "we'll hang X" is an expression that has been around forever.

[Kurovski]

49. Maybe back in the lynching days.

I haven't heard it used since the sixties. maybe "string 'em up" in the 70's. Not to get specific.

I haven't heard heard it much at all on popular shows, cartoons. columns.

"we'll either hang together or separately" is sometimes heard.

Maybe the Fresh Prince of Bel Air made hilarious references to hangings. I don't rightly recall.

EDIT: also "hang them out to dry." I've heard that one. That's laundry related. That might be a good one to use on KKK friendly politicians?

[WatsonT]

68. So you've never heard:

give them just enough rope to hang themselves?

To say you're going to hang someone is the same as saying you're going to end them, or bury them, or whatever. The meaning is clear.

And more white people have been hanged than black.

If he'd said something more specific like "turn a firehose on him" or "set the police dogs on that uppity negro" ok, that'd be one thing.

But people seem obsessed with making this in to a race thing when there is no indication that that is the case.

You could spend your entire life filtering out secret meanings to normal statements. But it would be a wasted life.

[Kurovski]

74. You have made an enormous investment in defending Romney.

That is your prerogative. Oh yes. I've heard about "enough rope."

There's nothing secret about lynching.

Most people who write have the good sense to edit those kind of statements when referring to black americans. A political speech is a prime example of writing that is edited to the last pause.

The republicans really ran with Obama's sympathetic view of the south as being so damaged financially by republican policies that people cling to Guns and religion.

We could learn something about politics from Republican strategists.

[WatsonT]

99. Wow

Just wow.

Do you get paid to make such accusations?

[PuffedMica]

17. Palin was not malicious either

So there is no chance an whacked out right winger won't get any ideas from Romney's comments.

[Kurovski]

34. Palin is a Stochastic terrorist.

Quite a successful one.

[The Magistrate]

18. He has Committed A Federal Crime, Sir: Threatening To Murder The President

He should be charged, arrested, tried, convicted, and imprisoned.

[crazyjoe]

25. BWAHAHAHA!!!!

[Kurovski]

50. I'm getting a team of lawyers that can make it so.

Bought 'em out from the Koch bros. ;) Wink wink


Wink.

[L0oniX]

78. +1

[underpants]

19. "You have to be careful" - not with being wrong or racist mind you just with being caught on air

As Bill Maher said the other night "Republicans are necessarily racist but if you are a racist you are probably a Republican"

[JI7]

20. don't like Romney but i'm pretty sure he didn't mean it in that Way

[Kurovski]

36. Very few people "mean" to be racist and ugly.

But it's just too politically advantageous for garnering what remains of the right wing vote.

[pipi_k]

54. Do you actually know

the meaning of "racist"?

It's the belief that one's own race is superior to another.


What is there in the word "hang" that points to a belief of racial superiority?

Even if the only persons ever hanged throughout our history were black, then it's still just an incredibly stupid thing to say. However, people of all races have been hanged in this country. So racial exclusivity doesn't exist.


Now if you want to say that Obama (or any black person) is unfit to be president because of inherent deficiencies in the black race, then yes...that is racist. It's making another person inferior BECAUSE of his race.

[Kurovski]

57. You are very, very bad at this.

Is this racist? Romney's religious leader:

Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalizati­on" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 270; History of the Church, 5: 218;

Everything I have to say about this was said downtread. Leap-frogging over that info ain't gonna change a thing about dog whistle politics and the fact that Romney needs the votes of people who will "get" this "gaffe".

[pipi_k]

75. What does Romney's religious leader have to do with this?

And why am I "very, very bad at this"?

Based on what Joseph Smith said, yes. I would say it's racist. He's making blacks inferior to whites based on their race.

So what?

Jesus said and believed lots of very Liberal things.

Do all his believers think the same way? ALL of them?


One's choice of religion has nothing to do with a racist or non-racist attitude.


Believe it or not, it is possible for intelligent people to differ with some of the thoughts of the leaders of their churches.


But, well...it IS Romney. And he IS a Republican. So it must be guilt by association.

[Kurovski]

77. You keep asking things that are already answered.

You muddy the waters. You change focus and topic. That's why I think you're bad at this. And i'm not so great either, IMO.

Some will argue that no intelligent person belongs to any church at all. Maybe even Mark Twain would. But why get off topic?

Romney's gaff is a political stunt. you disagree. No need to count dancing angels on the head of a pin.

We disagree.

[pipi_k]

86. Where are these things...

"already answered"?

here in this thread?

By yourself?

Forgive me, but I haven't seen my specific questions answered by anyone, much less yourself.

Yes, we clearly disagree, but that doesn't mean we can't agree on one or two other points in this discussion.

I'm asking specific questions I'd like an answer to, and not getting much besides a lot of dancing around the bushes. Lots of non-answers.


:shrug:

[autorank]

88. You agree with Mr. Watson, I presume

Romney's remark is note worthy because:

a) it's a racist alusion;
b) he didn't know that; and
c) nobody in his crew who vetted the speech knew that.

That presumes that the remark was not made deliberately.

Romney is either an out of touch incompetent with no sensitivity whatsoever or a nasty piece of work.

This is a shameful part of our history, lynchings. What does it take to knock off lynching references when referring to black politicians or any black person?

http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html

[Kurovski]

89. But Romney does say "You have to be careful" so that implies

some self awareness that it is racist. And a threat considering the incident in Arizona.

I go with "Nasty piece of work for 10, Alex." :thumbsup:

He got to say the racist statement, and say "you" have to be careful. Not "I" have to be careful. I think that was his "wink" to the racist base.

He had his cake, and he ate it too.

But your consideration of possibilities does you justice, Sir.

[autorank]

101. Mitt in a Snit!

He's the guy who didn't know the name of his dogs or something equally heinous. This trumps that minor
discretion;) ... I presume

[Kurovski]

102. He's also said racist things before in the past

But I fell and broke my Google.

[pipi_k]

21. It sucks big time for people to have to put others...

in categories before they can speak.

That means you don't just see the person as a human being, you also have to notice that the person might be different in some way.

One example of this was when a coworker of mine, who didn't have a malicious bone in her body told me about a person she worked with who had a physical disability.

After a while some people don't even notice this stuff. That means you're just a human being...not your disability or different-ness.

So the coworker asked my office mate to do something for her and my office mate kiddingly said, "What...are you crippled?" without even thinking. The coworker thought it was funny, and it wasn't until sometime later my office mate discovered (from someone else) what she had said.

I'm not fond of Romney either, but it's just possible that he doesn't run around seeing people first and foremost as black or hispanic or disabled or whatever.

Isn't that what we want? For everyone to be equal?

Seems to me that the people who are (IMO) so oversensitive to what a person is are the ones who are perpetuating this whole issue of different-ness. Not the people who see someone else as a human being first.

[Kurovski]

33. Stephen Colbert doesn't see color either.

It's a great routine, but Romney's blows chunks.

[pipi_k]

45. So Romney uses an expression that could apply

to whites as well as blacks, and all of a sudden it's a "routine"?


And, of course, people NEVER say things they don't really mean...

[Kurovski]

47. Lots of pols have lousy routines.

And you like hopscotch, it would appear.

[pipi_k]

52. You're right....lots of pols do have lousy routines...

but I don't see the use of one word as being a "routine".


I bet this wouldn't even be an issue if, for example, a Black Republican were in office and a white guy said the same thing about him.


Seems like lots of stuff around here is only OK or not OK according to whether it's being said to/about a Republican or a Democrat.

[Kurovski]

59. Romney is hoping to gain political advantage from racists.

Romney is hoping to gain political advantage from racists.

Romney is hoping to gain political advantage from racists.

Romney is hoping to gain political advantage from racists.


See now, I can keep repeating too.

I don't give one turtle turd about any other flucking worthless example, I'm concerned about what Chowderhead Romney has said.

And since you want to play the deflection game, It appears to me you're not happy with a lot of DU, you seem at times to talk more about people at DU than you do the issues and politicians up for discussion, and that is so very fascinating.

[pipi_k]

64. yeah, Romney needs the support of the

more than 51% of the population of this country who are "racists".

I guess that would mean that a whole lot of Independents and Democrats are "racists" too.

And he can afford to offend the non-racists because really, there are enough racists in this country who would vote for him. He would win in a landslide!


OK, whatever...

Just wanted to mention, though...

your statement:


"And since you want to play the deflection game, It appears to me you're not happy with a lot of DU, you seem at times to talk more about people at DU than you do the issues and politicians up for discussion, and that is so very fascinating."


I think I do a good job of sticking to the issues and not dragging personalities into discussions. I don't want to do to someone else what I don't want done to myself.

If you have evidence to the contrary...posts in which I try to deflect attention from the issue at hand and turn it into a discussion on the other person's motives or intelligence, then please do direct me to it. Were that the case, I imagine I would be informed that posts of mine had been deleted for that reason and I would be given a chance to edit. I've never had to do that. You're always welcome to alert on any post of mine you feel is a personal attack on someone.

You are also free, if my posts are so repugnant to you, to place me on "ignore".

Thanks

[Kurovski]

76. You know full well I can't do that.

And is it jump rope we're playing now?

Below I posted that you yourself are defending Romney. You are not alone. The strategists know that. They know that Dems love to appear to be "not like the other guy" But that's a negative, isn't it now? And a great advantage to Republican campaign strategists. Plausible deniability.

It's all been said down below.

Who taught you Hopscotch? At what institute for physical fitness? :D I know someone here you can pull a double-dutch with. ;)

[pipi_k]

85. It's getting rather amusing now...

telling me what I "know". Yes, I just love when people KNOW what I "know".

What is it I "know" you can't do? Point me to where I've attacked other people instead of sticking to the issues?

Hey, I didn't bring it up...you did. You can't just run around accusing people of things and then not be able to give concrete evidence. Guess there isn't any...

In any event, you seem to have lost your way in this discussion. It's gone from the issue to your insistence that I and someone else are playing a "game".

I can assure you, that isn't the case. Not on my end, anyway. Someone cracked a joke and I thought it was funny. I guess that equates to this whole big plot now...

I'm willing to discuss THE ISSUE. Not trade insults back and forth. If that's what you want to do, then go for it. Insult me all you like. Accuse me all you like of whatever you want, but be sure you can prove your accusations. Otherwise, it's all just bullshit meant to divert the discussion from the issue at hand to my personality or motives.

As soon as someone has gone from The Issue to my motives, then I know that s/he has nothing else left.

[Kurovski]

87. You know the rules on DU. If you don't, go bone-up.

it's all so very obvious now.

[Bluebear]

93. By the woman who says 'Some poor slob gets beaten by the police...if he's black, it's RACISM!!!'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=917366#924146

Oh, how I wish DU had been around during the Clinton years. It would have been interesting to see what reasons anyone would have for why the Republicans were trying so hard to bring him down.

He's white, so forget the racism. Damn!

But had he been black....whoopeeee! Racism!!!

Wow.

[Kurovski]

96. Wow is right.

But let's remember that Toni Morrison gave Clinton the honorific of "first black president" :D . So there is that.

Again: wow.

[yardwork]

22. I think what he said immediately after proves his malice. "You have to be careful."

What the hell does he mean, "you have to be careful?" Careful of going around saying that you're going to murder the president? Saying that you're going to hang a black man, and then immediately pausing and making a smart-ass remark that proves that you know how offensive this is?

Never forget that this man tied his dog to the top of a station wagon and took him on the highway during a family vacation. A man who would do such a thing is capable of anything. Anything.

[MasonJar]

24. It was undoubtedly a mistake, but it is past time for politicians to quit

using language of violence. They should pay when they do, Dem or GOPer.

[Terra Alta]

26. Would Romney have made the same comment

about a white President? Kind of makes you wonder. Either way, Mitt won't get the nomination in 2012... the evangelicals will never vote for a Mormon.

[TheCowsCameHome]

28. Yuk, Yuk, Mitt.

Don't give up your day job just yet.

[Cleita]

30. Hmmm, Americans for Prosperity. Isn't that the

Koch Brothers funded group? I think we should make a list who attends and see who gets hung in the next election.

[Kurovski]

38. Yes it is.

[WatsonT]

35. Non-blacks have been hanged as well

it's an expression.

[Kurovski]

39. As an expression, It's a dog-whistle.

[WatsonT]

41. Sure thing chief

what other expressions can't be used?

Like if I were to say that these are dark times economically due to the recession, would that be racist because Obama is black? I don't intend it that way, it's an expression that predates Obama by centuries, but it references a dark hue, which he is. So de facto racism?

[Kurovski]

43. When you run for office, I'll let you know champ.

Wouldn't want you to hide the real you for anyone's advantage. Least of all a Koch brother's advantage.

[WatsonT]

71. "Hide the real me" eh?

Elaborate.

[Kurovski]

80. I want to know what a politician really intends to do. I would rather they go unedited, unscripted

for much of a campaign. Look at what Wisconsin's Walker did as opposed to what he said in his campaign. The same for Michigan's governor. The same for many other pols, those are just two outrageous examples that are beyond the pale.

And don't say using "pale" is racist, and continue the revelations here on this thread. Or maybe do. For both of us, it's too late now anyway. :shrug:

Are you running for office? You can declare now if you like. because that's the premise.

[WatsonT]

97. Wow, so you hate white people

that's the only logical conclusion one can derive from your use of "pale". All preemptive defenses notwithstanding.

Good luck running with that obvious racism on your record.

[pipi_k]

44. And don't ever say...

that he's using Black Humor.


Because, like, there are people who don't know what it is. You'll be accused of being a racist because, in their minds, Black Humor must surely be inferior to "white humor".

Blech.


Sometimes I suspect that many "isms" exist only in the hearts and minds of those who insist on seeing it wherever they look.


There are too many people who don't even know what racism is, IMO.

[Kurovski]

46. You already failed upthread.

But you are correct here: "There are too many people who don't even know what racism is" That would almost be Romney.

I mean, if you really want to be president and you have a reputation as a "lie-beral" with the "soshalist healtcare" and all, you are gonna maybe toss a little joke out their that lets 'em know you can roll with the old-time ways of handlin' certain "problems".

The Southern strategy dies hard because it WORKED, and we still have a tiny slice that any repub pol is going to need.

[pipi_k]

51. And all that is so...

because you say it is.


I dunno. I don't have any powers that enable me to look into someone else's mind. Maybe you do.

I'll tell you what wouldn't make sense...for Romney to forget that by winking at the "old-time way" of things, he would be committing political suicide because he knows he needs more support than just from the people who hold certain outdated thoughts.


So, since lots of people here seem to have some great power the rest of us lack, it sure would be nice to have an inside track on what these guys are thinking from day to day. What's Romney thinking now...this very minute...

Has he ever cheated on his wife? Stolen anything from a store? What are his most sinful thoughts?

Really...I want to know these things. Or is that a power that only works when one wants to accuse someone else of being a "racist" at the slightest provocation?

[Kurovski]

60. It's not political suicide. He has plausible deniability. You're defending him right now.

Plenty of people agree that it's just a gaff, and not worth noting. The Magistrate seems to be one who I disagree with. And I don't want to, because I want him to like me ever so much! :D

Pols pay millions for advisors who know how the crowd functions. Yes, people do study how people will react, and they know how the press will assist them in their campaign. Every word and strategy is designed for the target and the surrounding repercussions.

The Southern Strategy has been perfected for over forty years.

Repubs would be attacking the politician, not each other. (but even that is changing now) Right-Wing advisors know that about dems and liberals, progressives, whatever you want to name it. We're easy pickin's for the divide-and-conquer strategy.

[pipi_k]

65. It's not about "defending" him...

It's about not being willing to sit here on a high horse and pronounce him a "racist" based on one word.


Is that the Liberal/Progressive way of doing things?

Sitting on a mountaintop judging others based on a word they used?

Comparing all Republicans with the KKK or Hitler's minions (I realize not in this thread, but I have seen it).


A guy uses a certain word, and suddenly he's Democrats' Enemy Number One.

And anybody who doesn't think so is "defending" him.


If yer not with us, yer against us... sounds familiar. :puke:

[WatsonT]

69. Sometimes everyone disagreeing with your assesment is proof of a vast conspiracy

to hide the truth.


Although more often it means that you are mistaken.

Most people discrediting your cries of racism doesn't prove we're brainwashed.

It just means that in this case you're incorrect.

[WatsonT]

67. Forget that, I'd use my powers to figure out his PIN

and go on a shopping spree.

[pipi_k]

73. Hahahahah!!! n/t

[WatsonT]

66. If this is the worst racism you can find in the US at the moment

then I think we should all pack it in an go home because racism is no longer an issue.

Racism used to consist of owning blacks as property.

Then it became about denying them rights.

Then it became about denying them opportunities.

Apparently now it's about weak statements that if you squint right might possibly be construed as racism.

Clearly the war is over.

[Kurovski]

83. You two enjoy your game of double-dutch.

Did you know that "Dutch" is Ronald Reagan's nickname? Just occurred to me. It's an inarguable fact!

Aside from the previously posted items below, you can continue to--just in my own opinion--defend Romney's underhanded political tactic. See? I told you I'm not good at this. That was a terrible way to argue right there.

[WatsonT]

100. And so now you hate the dutch as well

they are human beings too, or didn't you realize that?

Apparently they along with the asians have done something to earn your ire.

Weren't jews called underhanded back in the day? So what is it, Mr Kurovski, that the jews have done to earn such hatred from you and obvious anti-semitism?

[WatsonT]

70. Asians have been called dogs before in a derogatory manner

shall I assume that was a slight against asians?

Apologize please.

[Kurovski]

72. Think what you want.

we disagree. you don't believe in an element of Republican electoral strategy. That's what I see here in Romney's hand-crafted gaff. Or maybe you're defending it.

Romney's statement: It is designed to appeal to racists.

Learn what "dog-whistle" means in regards to politics.

[WatsonT]

98. Wow so you believe asians are subhuman

and are essentially dogs. That's what you're saying here.

I never thought I'd see that sort of blatant racism here.

[Kurovski]

103. Fortunately I'm not running for anything.

And you just ran out of credibility.

[WatsonT]

106. You're only "running" from your racist statements

[Sheepshank]

40. Stupid, unthinking, idiots without malice.

Is that so much better that stupid, unthinking idiots with malice?

[ReggieVeggie]

48. remember, Romney is a Mormon

he's racist by default

[Kurovski]

53. A few spiritual teachings:

"Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalizati­on" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 270; History of the Church, 5: 218;

"...An­d then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generation­s shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsom­e people (2 Nephi 30:6).




"And it came to pass that I beheld, after they had dwindled in unbelief they became a dark and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominatio­ns (Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 12:23)."

[Mimosa]

56. I read 'Romney' and usually ignore the topic

I don't even want to hear what he says. But if this sinks him, good.

[A Simple Game]

58. I heard that Obama told Mitt

not to get his underwear all in a bind over a simple little gaffe.

He then wondered out loud if you can get magic underwear in a bind.

[Kurovski]

61. Some people say

magic underwear makes you more prone to skid marks.

[chillspike]

62. Yes, you have to be careful, Mitt.

And you weren't, were you?

[Kurovski]

63. He was framing what he said.

And he created plausible deniability with that statement. Republican politicians/advisors know how to have their cake and eat it too.

But I'm personally glad to see him called on it.

[L0oniX]

79. He's just acting naturally.

[Vinee]

90. Freud: +1------Romney: 0...KUMITE!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

91. Well, that was a short run for Prez. How stupid can you be? Hang and Obama

in the same sentence? Buh Bye, Mitt! You're finished.

[Liberal_in_LA]

94. k&r

[AC_Mem]

95. Romney's "misspeak"

Do I think that he is a racist? Probably not, however up until recent history, the LDS church taught that African Americans were less than Caucasian in terms of their worth in the church. They were not allowed to hold priesthood positions that the white man was given. Their doctrine that came from their "prophet" (who they believe speaks for God) taught this:

I'm not going to quote this because it is just too offensive. Here is a link:
http://www.exmormon.org/blacks1.htm

As far as this being an innocent slip of the tongue, the topic was part of his speech. This was researched and practiced - the whole "hang it around his neck like they did with Carter". If they didn't realize how potentially offensive this would be when they were setting up the talking points, then they are just plain stupid. If they did realize the implications of bringing this topic forward, then it was pre-meditated and Romney just went too far with a topic that was already inappropriate.

Bottom line, the buck stops with Romney on this one. He brought up the subject, he has to own his words on this. Words have consequences.

Annette

[Jefferson23]

104. When does anyone from the Republican party take responsibility for what they say?? n/t

[Kurovski]

105. Never, that's policy. And they take credit for that which they did not do.

As we can see in some quarters today in response to Osama bin Ladin's destruction.

[DainBramaged]

107. Another turd who will never understand what acting Presidential means