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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAbigail Disney is an heiress with brass ovaries
who will profit from the GOP tax scam bill but isnt into f-cking poor people over. Ms. Disney penned an op-ed for USA Today in which she rips the GOP a new one because she has always been cognizant of income and wealth inequality. In other words, she is not Donald Trump, Paul Ryan or Bob Corker. Or Mitch McConnell. She is Abigail Disney, dammit.
Link to tweet
Stinky The Clown
(67,818 posts)angrychair
(8,733 posts)Disneys impact on copyright laws should be criminal. That the majority of Disneys most popular stories, from Cinderella to Snow White and everything in-between, are a simple retelling of older folk tales and such, many pulled directly from collections of the Grimm Brothers fairytales, that they got royalty free, even having already made millions from merchandise and movies, Disney continues to charge outrageous fees to use them for high school plays as well as requiring the scripts to only be done in certain ways, is criminal (say the word Disney to any HS drama teacher and they are likely to explode into a cussing fit).
The Mouse can kiss my ass.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)This woman is not responsible for what her grandfather and her grand Uncle did.
angrychair
(8,733 posts)No different than the Kochs.
The Kochs fund hospitals and medical research and have huge charitable organizations but I am never going to praise them for it.
Unless she is using her influence to make fundamental changes at her namesake, from how they treat their park employees and actors to opening up royalty-free use of plays based on their movies (that they got though public domain royalty free), than it is no different than the nice things the Kochs do.
My empathy for the super-wealthy died the night of the republicans trillion dollar giveaway.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Unless she is using her influence to make fundamental changes at her namesake..."
Seems a rather relevant thing to research prior to going into an melodramatic rant. But as it's inconvenient to do so and often interferes with our biases, I can certainly understand your lack of doing so.
My empathy for logical fallacies, laziness of research and knee-jerk reasons never died... as it never existed in the first place.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Some rich people are actually good human beings. Somewhere in the Koch family there is likely one or two virulently opposed to their uncles. If one of those Kochs came to work with you for good outcomes, you would turn them away simply because of the family that the person come from. How much more short-sighted can a person be? Honestly, if the child of Satan came to me to honestly work for good and against the actions of his or her father, I would welcome the help.
woodsprite
(11,923 posts)My son's drama league said Beauty and the Beast was just released, so they are doing that as their musical this year.
angrychair
(8,733 posts)But it wasnt cheap
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)the prices would drop. Nobody is forcing the high school to do Beauty and the Beast or Cinderella. If they want more kid friendly stuff, there is Into the Woods, Shrek the Musical or Seussical the Musical and probably more; if they want more mature stuff, there are plenty of options - older classics like West Side Story, 42nd Street, etc to more recent ones like Hairspray, Addams Family or In the Heights.
But, if a local high school puts on Seussical and gets 1,200 seats sold at $10 each for 3 shows in total, they make $12,000 in box office. If Beauty and the Beast sells 1,500 tickets at $10/each, they make $15,000 in box office (an extra 100 seats per show). Does the extra $3,000 justify the increased price?
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Javaman
(62,533 posts)Luz
(772 posts)like us peasants. Poor little rich girl. Screw that.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)🐦
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Duppers
(28,125 posts)More about her...
"Last year, when Meryl Streep publicly accused Walt of being a "bigot," his grandniece took to her Facebook page to voice how she "loved" the actress' remarks. "Anti-Semite? Check." Disney wrote. "Misogynist? OF COURSE!! Racist? C'mon
The fear of being judged for her name is also what kept Disney away from filmmaking for so long. After earning three degrees a bachelor's from Yale University, master's from Stanford University and a doctorate from Columbia she worked largely as a philanthropist, launching nonprofits to fight poverty and encourage global peace building.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-abigail-disney-20151030-story.html
"Ive given away about a third of my net worth, although it has come back to me as quickly as Ive given it away. Ive started making million dollar grants payable over four to five years.
But bolder giving isnt just about grant size; its about being out in the world and working with other people. Im a far richer person because of it."
- Abigale Disney
F your purity test. I appreciate her efforts.
Luz
(772 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)(such as costumes). Big difference.
angrychair
(8,733 posts)Its the difference between a Beauty and the Beast people recognize and one that looks familiar.
Even those productions can be cost prohibitive to purchase the rights to do it. Especially if you are not a very big school. I know that Drana departments are always way overfunded so they always have thousands of extra dollars to spend on a single production.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Belle, Gaston, or Lefou, or anthropomorphic furniture/household items then you are gonna have copyright problems, because Disney owns those characters. They are NOT in the original fairytale.
If you want to do a stage production of Beauty and the Beast and base it on the actual French fairy tale, then you'll have no problems whatsoever.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)several years ago a little tavern in the town of Beloit, Wis. population 36,000 was sued by Disney. They had to change the name from Mickey Mouse to just Mouse. It had been Mickey Mouse for years before that. Everyone was shocked.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 21, 2017, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)
before Disney's Mickey Mouse?
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I wouldve sued them, too.
Its easy to oppose intellectual property rights when you dont own any intellectual property.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Beast", not "Disney's Beauty and the Beast"
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)They can't just use the copyrighted Disney version for free.
Copyright laws protect all writers, not just Disney.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)for free, recycling any of the Grimm's fairy tales because they're hundreds of years old. All works published since 1922 are in the public domain. Do you read German? That will help.
But you can't simply take Disney's work (a highly sanitized and Americanized version of the oral stories) and use that for free -- except for any stories that are past the copyright date.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)This could be run as an ad against the GOP.
Thx for posting QXQQ.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Where are the rest of them (apart from the millionaires who will benefit in the government) to join her?
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)NOT sign this atrocious bill. I won't hold my breath.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)whathehell
(29,090 posts)pnwmom
(108,990 posts)gibraltar72
(7,510 posts)even our allies must somehow pass a purity test!
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Thanks.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)... is as Right-Wing as they come. Walt himself was a noted fascist and Hitler sympathizer.
Blue_Adept
(6,400 posts)woodsprite
(11,923 posts)and he is a far cry from that.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 21, 2017, 09:30 PM - Edit history (1)
Thank gawd it's not genetic.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Der Fuhers Face and Education For Death come to mind.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
https://www.icij.org/investigations/luxembourg-leaks/new-leak-reveals-luxembourg-tax-deals-disney-koch-brothers-empire/
They fired almost of their IT people and replaced them with H1-B visa holders.
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oasis
(49,401 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)So she probably needs to get under the bus with the rest of them.
niyad
(113,532 posts)Nitram
(22,861 posts)I understand what you're trying to do, but it just doesn't sound right to me. Trying to shove a square peg into a round hole. Modify a macho term to pay a woman a compliment? Maybe I'm tone deaf. Any women out there that can tell me of I'm off base in thinking so?