Just think about this: The future President of the United States

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

fucked a porn star just after his third wife, a former nude model, had given birth to his fifth child. AND he paid for the porn star's silence just before the election by having his lawyer set up a shell corporation to transfer $130,000 to her under a false name to ensure the transaction wouldn't be discovered. Think about that for a minute. Look at the multiple levels of duplicity and corruption. What would have happened if such a story had come out about Obama? Bill Clinton gets his knob polished and there's a massive investigation and an impeachment. But Trump? Crickets.

His supporters are not swayed. They will have one of these three reactions:

1. It never happened; it's Fake News. Stormy Daniels is really a whore feminazi friend of Hillary Clinton and she was paid to say those things by George Soros and the Clinton Foundation to discredit our great president and keep him from building the Wall to save us from ISIS and Mexican rapists.

2. It happened a long time ago before he accepted Jesus Christ as his personal savior, but now he's good with God and he's saved, so what he did back then doesn't matter. The fact that he was elected to save babies from the liberal abortionists is proof that God has forgiven him.

3. It's awesome that he got it on with a porn star. She was really hot; I'd sure like to get me a piece of that. He's the Alpha Male. So what if he paid her to keep quiet? He has the bucks and he can do what he wants, and anyhow there are too many snowflakes who'd bitch about it. #MAGA!

How fucked up is this?

[MFM008]

1. They are all maggots

.....

[mahatmakanejeeves]

2. This is an outrage. George Soros isn't paying me anywhere near that much. NT

[mahatmakanejeeves]

3. Incidents of blackmail are like cockroaches. When you see one, that means

there are many, many more hiding in the dark.

We now know for certain of one instance in which Trump was blackmailed. How many more incidents are out there waiting to be discovered? How many of these are incidents that happened not in the past, but are happening right now?

[Upthevibe]

4. Yep....Exactly....n/t

[unblock]

5. we don't know that he paid for her silence. we only know they had sex and he paid her.

there are other possible conclusions.

[erronis]

16. Way past coitus? Around the point that he was "playing" with the idea of being the Apprentice Prez?

[unblock]

20. it can be spun a number of ways

all of them bad for donnie

[Cheviteau]

33. Nope

When you pay a prostitute you leave the money on the nightstand. So I've been told. Anyway, the movies always show it being done that way. When you pay blackmail you pay through a shell company you've just set up out of state. See the difference?

[unblock]

34. to paraphrase a scene from office space:

did you have sex?
yes

did you pay her?
yes

so how is this not prostitution?


ok, fine, i'm sure it's usually a cash up front kind of business, but i don't know if the rules are different for billionaires.
we also don't know if this was the only payment.

in any event, as far as we know, we're just speculating about the motives behind the payment. the only fact we have is that stormy daniels claims they had "textbook generic" sex (aside from the magazine spanking and the daughter fantasizing) and eventually wound up with money that used to be his.

it would be irresponsible to speculate further. if donnie wants to come forward and clarify that he was buying her silence rather than renting her body, that's his move.

until then, i'll just go with prostitution with a delayed payment.

[barbtries]

53. good point.

probably he just hadn't paid her. lol

[Pachamama]

6. This is just the groundwork being laid out for what else Trump has done that the Russians have

Him fucking a porn star for a year after his wife just had a baby is just the beginning...

Trump did far worse....I am sure of it...this is nothing....

Its the things that the Russians have on him that they don't want out and if the public and his supporters are okay with the porn star, then the news of the other won't have quite the bad impact as it would have otherwise....

I personally think that Comrade Shithole is a really really dark person and that people like him are into some really dark things....far beyond "kinky"....and the Russians know it all....

Golden showers - that is nothing.... what if the American People find out Trump is in to S&M? Bondage? Asphyxiation during orgasm? Sex with corpses? Women with a strap on having anal sex with Trump?

Sadly....I think the only thing that might outrage his supporters? If he was in to anal sex on him from a man....

Or molesting minors? Including his daughters?

[pangaia]

10. Think about what you just wrote.. " Golden showers - that is nothing..."

Could we imagine a year and more ago when golden showers was a big shock and now it is just,, almost nothing.

Amazing isn't it..

[Pachamama]

11. Its crazy....

Never ever did I think that I would be saying that ever in my life....

[Locrian]

29. you know it HAS to be underage hookers - I'd bet money on it - n/t

[not fooled]

38. Yep. Underage.

that's the one thing that would damage him in the eyes of some of his supporters. Not all, as judge moore showed.

And seriously hurt what's left of his image with the public.

I think that woman who accused him of raping her when she was 13 was telling the truth. And she's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Pachamama]

39. Fucking a Porn Star is not a crime....maybe not even a hooker....

But having sex with a minor?

That is a crime....

And I agree....I think he raped that 13 year old and I bet there are more....

[MagickMuffin]

51. Underage Hookers???

I can understand (sort of) that you would refer to underaged children (girls/boys?) as hookers. However, they were probably kidnapped and FORCED into prostitution.


you know it HAS to be the underaged sex slaves - I'd bet money on it!

I changed the wording for you!

[Locrian]

54. yes - totally correct - sorry - n/t

[Pepsidog]

48. We need to accept that none of this matters to Trumpanzees. The usually rules regarding decorum and

morality do not apply to the Dotard. The “what if Obama had done this” argument falls on deaf ears. We need to ignore, isolate and abandon any and all news coverage of Trump supporters. They represent a 1/3 of republican voters but a small number of the total population of Americans. I will not be watching these focus groups of Trump supporters because it is a cult of personality. Let Fox cover them but I don’t want to read about them or watch them on tv unless it’s a story about them crying because they lost their healthcare or some other tragedy of Trump’s making befalls them. Let them reap what they sow. When the market tanks like 2008 and these people start losing their jobs and retirement let’s see how much they like Dear Leader then. I wish them all the ill-will and bad luck that Trump’s policies of deregulation and incompetence will bring to their lives. Then put them back on tv to see how happy they are with their president.

[mac56]

7. Mind if I share?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. No problem!

[jalan48]

9. It's not so much the Trump supporters that bother me, it's the 90+ million voters who didn't vote.

Will they take part in 2018 and 2020?

[BobTheSubgenius]

12. I'm taking your final line as being rhetorical.

[geardaddy]

14. It's very fucked up.

[gilligan]

15. Pretty Fucked up!

[moondust]

17. Moral pygmies, one and all.

Hypocrisy on steroids.

[kimbutgar]

18. And just imagine their outrage if Obama did that.

[Ohiogal]

37. Exactly.

[Different Drummer]

49. Fox would have yelped about it on a daily basis. n/t

[marble falls]

19. None of that stuff really matters. What matters is the source of that $130,000....

His campaign contributions, his so-called charities - where? He paid her $130,000 whether they boffed or not. He paid her $130,000 whether it was after he 17th child and whether G*d and Millania forgave him for cheating or not. He paid her $130,000 whether his supporters had a ring side seat and cheered him on or not.

G*d and Trump's supporters and his wife and Barron may have forgiven him for his moral lapses or not. But if the source of that money didn't come from his pocket or someone else's with the provable lack of quid pro quo, that $130,000 dollars is tainted and it is criminal. He gets as much slack for that crime as a murderer gets for his after buying silence and with the the specific collective forgiveness of the victim, his wife and supporters.

[kairos12]

21. ...and he's not Obama.

[rtracey]

22. Well

Well he won't be fucking Stormy Daniels in federal prison, but I think he will get fucked by Daniel Stormy.....at least his kids and Kushner will.....

[Initech]

23. This is a million times worse than what they accused Clinton of.

And not only that, it 100% confirms his past abuses of women. And the fucking assholes will be ok with it, because, Jesus.

[matt819]

24. One of the many reasons

I have stopped even browsing at stories or reports of how we in the reality-based universe have to understand the plight of the white working male.

First of all, I just don't care.

Second, given the fact - truth, reality - that their candidate lost by more than 3 million votes, I think it's time for this demographic to work hard to understand life in what we here call the reality-based universe. This is a place where the majority of Americans care about and believe in:
~~ human, civil, voting, and equal rights for all, including, if we must, Norwegians
~~ health care for children
~~ LGBTQ rights
~~ America's standing in the world
~~ climate change
~~ free speech and freedom of religion
~~ a sane drug policy, including decriminalizing marijuana and addressing the opioid epidemic
~~ gun control
~~ truth, reality
~~ and so much more

Third, what about the plight of the white working women, single mothers, non-white working folks.

[spanone]

25. the media alone would have hounded Obama out of office....

trust me.

[FSogol]

26. It is very fucked up. n/t

[LiberalLovinLug]

27. Yup, that's his trifecta of voters

And what's more is that they have an amazing ability to jump from one to the other without batting an eye lash.

1 if presented with overwhelming evidence can leap to either 2 or 3 depending on if they come from evangelical indoctrination, or are just rasict sexist morans.

[genxlib]

28. You left out the kicker

where he spent the day moralizing to us about the evils of abortion.

[yuiyoshida]

30. Its outrageous but what can we do, the Republicans are

complacent. They need Trump to do stupid shit so they can pass the legislation they want.

[getagrip_already]

31. This post is USELESS without ....

Pictures. We know she has some. They have to slip out, even if it takes some money dropped into the slot.

Not that I want to see them. I'd be sick for a month. But it sure would agitate his minions........

[MontanaMama]

32. This is it in a nutshell!

I've got my fingers crossed for pictures or video that make him look ridiculous. Bring on the pee pee tape please!!!

[L. Coyote]

35. Melania was deported this morning, Stormy is moving into the White House.

Trump supporters yawned ....

[Different Drummer]

50. You're right...that would be their reaction. n/t

[Ohiogal]

36. You are spot on. Exactly correct.

His apologists are beneath contempt.

[Botany]

40. Please, it is not like he told a hooker/porn star that she reminded him of his daughter.

n/t

[Nonhlanhla]

41. The worst for me was when

some people defended this kind of behavior from Trump by saying, but look at Hillary, her husband did the same thing. FFS, it's not like SHE did the same thing -but her husband doing similar things to her rival was actually held against her, as if she is an extension of her husband.

Argh...

[smirkymonkey]

52. Even what Bill did was nowhere as bad as what Trump has done.

I don't ever want to hear another republican bring up Clinton and Lewinsky EVER AGAIN! They don't have a leg to stand on.

[Lucky Luciano]

42. mostly #3 i suspect. nt

[Sparkly]

43. Or #4

4. Okay, so it's not ideal that he screws pornstars. I'd prefer it if he didn't pay hush money to pornstars. It's maybe not the best for him to keep saying weird things about his daughter.

But the economy is still good, so I'm okay with it.

[moose65]

44. Sad, but true!

You can't make this shit up.

Yeah, they'd believe #1 even though it happened 11 years ago and there was an article written about it before Trump ever became a candidate. That has to be the fault of time-traveling Obama again, just like when he went back in time and posted that birth announcement in the Honolulu paper.

Sadly, #2 seems to be their generic "get out of jail free" card for EVERYTHING, even though a Democrat can never be forgiven for anything, ever, even if it happened 50 years ago.

#3 is a sad commentary on Trump's macho white male followers. They would see his affair with a porn star as a PLUS!

It's like living in a reality show and a professional wrestling match combined.

[brewens]

45. The Trump's are making the Clinton's look like the Cleaver's! n/t

[Pepsidog]

46. #4. The economy is great so who cares what he did 10 years ago

[GreenEyedLefty]

47. This happened yesterday... it was my first real life glimpse at Trump derangement.

I avoid talking politics with anyone who is not like minded. Avoid it like the plague. I work in a very conservative industry with a group of people who are similarly conservative. No one knows how I vote or what I believe.

I was in a meeting yesterday with the president, CFO and our company's 401k manager. The meeting started off with a discussion of the stock market and how the 401k funds are performing.

Suddenly the pres of the company started going off on Obama and FISA warrants. I sat in silence but with a slightly furrowed brow as if to say "WTF is he talking about." It was clear the discussion wasn't going anywhere, so we moved on. But still.