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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:18 PM Jan 2018

Since when does suspending, docking pay and requiring counseling constitute "shielding"?

This is about Hillary's treatment of a staffer who engaged in sexual misconduct.

It seems to me this is a great example of not treating everything in a black and white fashion. One of the reasons I so like Hillary.

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Since when does suspending, docking pay and requiring counseling constitute "shielding"? (Original Post) LAS14 Jan 2018 OP
Pretty much because right now the general consensus is that any misconduct Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #1
Since it gives some people... quickesst Jan 2018 #2
Since... Salviati Jan 2018 #3
That would depend on the context mythology Jan 2018 #4
It doesn't. I'm not at all surprised at the identity of those who do feel that way... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #5
Since Repugs heard about it. IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 2018 #6
No public humiliation. Igel Jan 2018 #7

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
1. Pretty much because right now the general consensus is that any misconduct
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jan 2018

no matter how great or small, real or imagined, must be met with all force. There's no nuance or shades of grey here to work with.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
2. Since it gives some people...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:26 PM
Jan 2018

.... an opportunity for winning the Bestest Liberal in the World title. An opportunity to be offended by something. An opportunity to display their equal opportunity outrage. Mainly, an opportunity to take another cheap shot at Hillary Clinton. They will then start demanding her resignation from........ something.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
4. That would depend on the context
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:03 PM
Jan 2018

I don't know the specific allegations against the Clinton campaign staffer. But to take another case in the news, that would be a joke to do to Nassar.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. It doesn't. I'm not at all surprised at the identity of those who do feel that way...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:06 PM
Jan 2018

... it's the result of long simmering resentments. Anything short of castration would not have been enough for some people.

It seems to me this is a great example of not treating everything in a black and white fashion. One of the reasons I so like Hillary.
Black and white. Exactly. This is what happened to Franken.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
6. Since Repugs heard about it.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:15 PM
Jan 2018

Obviously if more than a dozen victims go public about a high-ranking serial abuser there is no problem.

Obviously if that same abuser's campaign manager physically assaults a female reporter there is no problem.

So if a female politician does not discipline an employee severely enough, tge Repugs in the House will no doubt laucg a new committee for at least a year-long "investigation" so they can selectively dribble out fake leaks.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
7. No public humiliation.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:50 PM
Jan 2018

No cause to be supported.

No mandatory jail time. That's a problem in a lot of narratives about "so-and-so did __________ and wasn't prosecuted." Often it's because the person involved chose not to press charges. Even in cases of forcible rape, if the woman refuses to testify conviction is difficult. And then the entire "so-and-so wasn't prosecuted" becomes an implicit "the woman didn't do her civic duty and press charges and testify." We don't finish the chain of assumptions there because it gets offensive.

Etc.

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