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CNBCs Jim Cramer just now: Nunes/Trump efforts to fire Mueller helped cause this sell-off (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Feb 2018 OP
more direct cause is the result of the republican tax cut lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #1
+1 dalton99a Feb 2018 #3
More likely, THIS. Wwcd Feb 2018 #8
Yes, who does a tax cut in an economys late cycle NewsCenter28 Feb 2018 #9
I can't recall where I read this exact theory & warning. Wwcd Feb 2018 #11
he is the last person I would listen to, he encouraged people to buy Motley13 Feb 2018 #2
You said it! BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #16
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #19
I'm cynical as hell when it comes to the market. nocalflea Feb 2018 #4
If the markets have concluded Trump is insane NewsCenter28 Feb 2018 #7
Trump has been acting "insane" for over a year. nocalflea Feb 2018 #14
Cramer is a buffoon Quemado Feb 2018 #5
I heard Cramer allude to that earlier & the next segment had a Wwcd Feb 2018 #6
Well, tRump's election itself certainly caused me to lower the amount of equity I felt marybourg Feb 2018 #10
Its the unpredictability of his extreme statements. Wwcd Feb 2018 #13
markets hate uncertainty stewrat Feb 2018 #12
To be clear... they are spooked by Trump C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #15
Trump dump, as investors dump their stocks. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #17
Excellent Meme Horizens Feb 2018 #18

lapfog_1

(29,227 posts)
1. more direct cause is the result of the republican tax cut
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 07:30 PM
Feb 2018

and the announcement by the treasury of needing to borrow $1T this year

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
9. Yes, who does a tax cut in an economys late cycle
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 07:41 PM
Feb 2018

We now have an exploding debt and no methods available other than QE to save us once the Trump recession truly starts. But my point stands, the tax cuts are included in this, that Trumps actions may be about to start a stock market crash.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
11. I can't recall where I read this exact theory & warning.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 07:48 PM
Feb 2018

"Trumps actions may be about to start a stock market crash."

Some responders thought it was ridiculous panic hype.
Wonder how they feel today?. .

We need to watch tomorrow. It will be the 3rd day of this.
Something triggered the mass selloff today, between noon & 3 pm.


nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
4. I'm cynical as hell when it comes to the market.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 07:34 PM
Feb 2018

Us instability or Pump and Dump programming on Friday ? In come the lemmings on Monday ?

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
7. If the markets have concluded Trump is insane
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 07:36 PM
Feb 2018

That would cause them to fear political instability and him, which would lead them to want to reduce their exposure.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
14. Trump has been acting "insane" for over a year.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:02 PM
Feb 2018

Money launderers love pump and dumps.

Coincide another Trump outrage with a small run (Friday) who would be the wiser ?

Blame it on Trump and/or the ballooning defict etc.

But even the cynic in me recognizes it's probably an "adjustment" and jitters.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
6. I heard Cramer allude to that earlier & the next segment had a
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 07:35 PM
Feb 2018

Guy actually saying Cramer was basically wrong!

No One tells Jim Cramer he is wrong on a day like this one.

It appeared the guy was attempting to calm a panic.
Probably that guy from the NYSE


marybourg

(12,639 posts)
10. Well, tRump's election itself certainly caused me to lower the amount of equity I felt
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 07:43 PM
Feb 2018

I could sleep at night with, and to sell the remainder and all profits above that amount this past 15 months. I didn't have to sell anything today, because I'd been doing it since he won the election. So I can certainly believe that his behavior is making other shareholders nervous.

stewrat

(50 posts)
12. markets hate uncertainty
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 07:49 PM
Feb 2018

What the market hates most is uncertainty and what is causing this uncertainty is the threat of Trump using that the Nunes memo to fire Rosenstein & Mueller and set off a constitutional crisis. That kind of political turmoil will freak out the market. Of course, there's the real threat of inflation and interest rates rising too.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
15. To be clear... they are spooked by Trump
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:10 PM
Feb 2018

There are unsteady hands at the helm. Anyone with eyes can see Trump has no idea what he's doing.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
18. Excellent Meme
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 09:09 PM
Feb 2018

The nunes/trump efforts re Mueller are a minor factor in the self off. Other factors already noted are the major cause. HOWEVER, Attributing the sell off to nunes/trump is an excellent meme. With enough exposure, it could reduce the likelihood of trump firing Rosenstein or anyone else.

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