Glenn Greenwald Jokes about President Obama Raping a Nun
After President Obama signed the NDAA, Glenn Greenwald took to Twitter to highlight the ACLU's response statement. Blogger Angry Black Lady took issue with Greenwald and Emptywheel's characterization of the law.
When a Greenwald fan interjected with a horrific statement suggesting that Angry Black Lady would defend the president if he raped a nun on TV, Greenwald joined in and amplified that disgusting and offensive imagery instead of ignoring it or rebuking it.
A wide range of Twitter users were outraged at the offensive tweets about the president raping a nun, but Greenwald dodged accepting any responsibility for participating in such vile conversation, and several of Greenwald's most ardent admirers doubled down and insisted the statements were perfectly acceptable, while attacking Angry Black Lady for not being able to take a joke. Repellent.
http://chirpstory.com/li/3666
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makes a habit of doing crap like this. Just like his calling a DUer "simple-minded" in his recent article. Why is he so focused on Obama supporters?
He did apologize:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/12/05/925827/-Glenn-Greenwald-Apologizes,-and--
No, you're right, let's let an angry, completely irrational left wing blogger who doesn't even represent mainstream liberals, let alone all Democrats or a majority of the American public, define what the President of the United States should do. 
Glenn Greenwald has never praised Ron Paul, he HAS pointed out the disturbing fact that some of Paul's positions on issues such as war and civil liberties are significantly to the left of all the other candidates, including Obama. Any "praise" has been focused on Ron Paul's opposition to certain long standing government policies, and has not been aimed at the man himself or any of his proposed solutions to those issues.
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/05/democratic_party_priorities/singleton/
He never joked about rape. In fact, it was just the opposite. If you look at the screen capture of the actual Twitter conversation, he flatly states that he was using rape to illustrate how extreme some of Obama's most ardent supporters can be.
His opinion about Citizen's United isn't nearly so simplistic as you attempt to make it.
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/22/citizens_united/
As far as the "rape" discussion goes, I think his decision to piggyback on another Twitter user's comment, in what was a crude jibe aimed at a particular Obama supporter, was a mistake. He allowed the discussion to be hijacked and lost control of the argument. It was especially stupid given that he was debating with women at the time, so he should have expected that allowing rape into the conversation in such a fashion would cause a sh*tstorm.
By the time most of us reach adulthood, it is almost certain that we know at least one person who was the victim of a violent sexual crime. This personalizes discussions of rape for most people in a way that abstract discussions about children killed half a world away in unmanned drone strikes can never match. So long as the bloody costs of conflict don't touch the lives of the majority of voters, most will continue to value their economic well being over the blood and treasure expended in pursuit of empire. This is why Obama can joke about using unmanned drones to kill the Jonas bothers and effectively get away with it, but Glenn Greenwald cannot argue that even rape is not a "bridge to far" for a particularly zealous group of Obama supporters. It's not that rape isn't a deeply serious issue, or that the impersonal summary execution of children, even if accidental ...repeatedly "accidental"... is not arguably worse, it is that one falls within the bounds of human experience for many Americans and one does not. Whether it was intended or not, this has been made painfully apparent by the attempts to paint Glenn Greenwald as insensitive to women and "doubling down" on rape jokes. That he was discussing the degree to which the President has accrued vastly expanded, and clearly destructive, powers is completely lost, as was his obvious contention that even something as heinous as rape would be excused by those most in thrall to this President.
So, while it is almost incomprehensible that we live in a country that is virtually unmoved by the unlawful murder of thousands, many of whom are infants and school children, but that is driven into an uncontrollable rage over the mention of rape in a heated Twitter debate, that is where we are.
Welcome to the Internet.
would defend rape is a messed up thing to say? That's not the mindset of supporters.
And you talk about a smear campaign. Really. You just said that Obama supporters would defend rape. 
That's a smear campaign. I say that as a woman, a rape survivor, as well as someone that works with rape survivors.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
@DrDawg: @AngryBlackLady @g_p_g @ggreenwald @emptywheel ABL, Obama could rape a nun live on NBC and you'd say we weren't seeing what we were seeing
@GG: No - she'd say it was justified & noble- that he only did it to teach us about the evils of rape.
That is quite shitty, sorry.
maybe this will get him fired from Salon!
Wouldn't that be fantastic! Victory!
I wonder what he thought about the photos of the WH lawn made over into a watermelon patch? Greenwald suffers the same malady as many of his most strident defenders, they hate Obama supporters more than they hate the man himself. Well, tough titties. I'm one supporter who won't be bullied by the likes of GG, and I hope he feels the pushback, but good.
and the person it was directed to managed to take care of herself.
rocktivity
the way we all rallied around Clinton when he was attacked also. So if that was the goal, it's working. I've never seen him get so many recs on a blog post before. 
Smearing people never works, all it does is disgust people.
one would think Greenwald was running for president or most people on the street even know who Greenwald is judging by the recent posts here.
http://warisacrime.org/node/42630
"...By far the biggest contributor to our national debt and our annual deficit is the cost of Medicare and Medicaid as well as the other entitlement Social Security, defense and interst on the debt ..."
And SS is one of the largest contributors to our national debt and annual deficit.
Even raping a nun?
You're lucky he even performs for you BASTARD PEOPLE!!
"It wasn't a joke of any kind: it was a *deadly serious point* about blind defeders of evil acts - and it's TRUE"
"It is NOT a "rape metaphor": it's a statement they they'd defend ANY evil: assassinations, child-killings: EVEN rape"
"Yes, I think Obama defenders who justify assassinations, drone killing of children, etc. would justify ALL crimes"
"Let me be very clear: the point - which I affirm 100% - is that some people will justify the most HORRIFIC things he does"
Greenwald quotes from your link
http://chirpstory.com/li/3666
http://twitter.com/ggreenwald
Jokes about killing young boys with drones are so much better, unless your child was one of them.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/05/obama-drone-joke-was-it-offens.html
"Everyone agrees that President Obama was funnier than Jay Leno at the White House Correspondents Association dinner on Saturday night. But this joke is inspiring some backlash:
"Jonas Brothers are here, they're out there somewhere. Sasha and Malia are huge fans, but boys, don't get any ideas. Two words for you: predator drones. You will never see it coming. You think I'm joking?"
"You have to wonder why in the world the president's speech writers would think it was a good idea to throw a joke about predator drones into the president's speech during the White House Correspondent's Dinner, given that an estimated one-third of drone casualties, or between 289 and 378, have been civilians," wrote Adam Serwer at the American Prospect...
The joke mighta worked, and certainly would've been less offensive, coming from anyone else. It seems like a no-brainer that the people directly responsible for tragedies should not deliver jokes about those tragedies. That's why Mel Brooks can tell Hitler jokes and Germans can't..."
Greenwald again ...
"Let me be very clear: the point - which I affirm 100% - is that some people will justify the most HORRIFIC things he does"
and his defenders would find a way to make it the kitten's fault.
*Note: I think kitten killing is bad.
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