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struggle4progress

(118,345 posts)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 08:33 PM Feb 2018

It's very very strange in Trumpland

Swift-boat birther Jerome Corsi calls Carter Page an Obama plant. That poor man is a few decks short of a full card

Breitbart and Tucker Carlson, meanwhile, are crowing in unison that most Americans believe Obama improperly spied on the Trump campaign (based on a poll from IBD/TIPP)

After about two minutes of these adventures through the looking glass, I opted for a reality check:

Most Republicans believe FBI, Justice Dept. trying to 'delegitimize' Trump: Reuters/Ipsos poll
FEBRUARY 5, 2018 / 5:41 PM / 5 DAYS AGO
Chris Kahn
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly three out of four Republicans believe the FBI and Justice Department are trying to undermine U.S. President Donald Trump ... But among Americans overall, the latest poll showed that people did not appear to have changed their minds about the Russia investigation. Fifty-two percent of all adults said they believed Trump or someone from his campaign worked with Russia to influence the election and that it was likely "authorities will find evidence of an illegal relationship between the Trump administration and Russia" ...

February 6, 2018 - Trump Trying To Derail Russia Probe, U.S. Voters Tell Quinnipiac University National Poll

Poll: Majority say Mueller’s Russia probe is fair
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 02/09/18 12:00 PM EST
... a Marist College poll ... released Friday, finds that just more than half of those surveyed, 53 percent, say that the special counsel probe is a "fair" investigation into Trump's campaign, while 28 percent say it is "unfair." This marks an increase from 48 percent who said the investigation was "fair" in the same poll last month ... In addition, respondents said they are more likely to trust Mueller than Trump. Given an option between the two, 55 percent said they would believe Mueller over Trump, compared to 30 percent that said the reverse ...

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It's very very strange in Trumpland (Original Post) struggle4progress Feb 2018 OP
Nice leanforward Feb 2018 #1
t-rumpland is pretty much fucked up Iliyah Feb 2018 #2
Disinformation technique: Whataboutism sharedvalues Feb 2018 #3
Our Founding Fathers had confidence in us to be a freedom loving people world wide wally Feb 2018 #4
The emboldened alt-right spewing their garbage. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #5

leanforward

(1,077 posts)
1. Nice
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 08:40 PM
Feb 2018

I was beginning to think I was off the rails. No critical thinkers out there. I hope these polls are a cross section of these United States.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. t-rumpland is pretty much fucked up
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 08:52 PM
Feb 2018

which unfortunately is spilling over to the USA by way of economically slow downward turn. Most USA's citizens are fed up with this on going bullshit, insanity, embarrassment, and a laughing stock in the world, although a dangerous one.

Most Americans think their security is no longer important to this fucked up admininstration and party that controls it. That rich is more important than the middle and poor class.

These people are liars who do not care about us. They will destroy this country to keep their lives above the law.

Now I see why the Republican party is dying. Majority are Dems and Indies, thats why they have to cheat, steal, lie and gerrymand. Working with Russia is ok with them.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
3. Disinformation technique: Whataboutism
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:09 PM
Feb 2018
http://www.infowar.cepa.org/index/?id=d84ca991b2dbcb8e6d8e48e00f80dfd1




"INFORMATION WARFARE INITIATIVE
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CEPA's StratCom Program is an innovative, on-the-ground effort to monitor, collate, analyze, rebut and expose Russian disinformation in the countries of Central and Eastern Europe (CEE). Led by CEPA Senior Vice President Edward Lucas and CEPA Senior Adjunct Fellow Donald N. Jensen, the program aims to assist policymakers in advancing transatlantic efforts to develop a comprehensive and effective strategy to counter Russian disinformation in the CEE region.
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