The high school had an armed police officer on campus.........

[USALiberal]

If the students felt safe, it was because they were prepared. There was an armed police officer on campus. The students had practiced to deal with an active shooter.

But then, on Wednesday, police said, trouble arrived. The gunman walked purposefully, and nothing stopped him.

“They knew what to do. We knew what to do,” said Melissa Falkowski, a teacher at the school, talking about students and faculty on CNN. “And, even still — even with that — we have 17 casualties.” She started to cry.

Fuck this "Good guy with a gun" BS.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/code-red-despite-preparations-no-one-was-ready-for-what-happened-at-douglas-high/2018/02/15/50862852-1294-11e8-9065-e55346f6de81_story.html

[Hoyt]

1. Armed guards and armed teachers won't stop a thing. Most of these shooters are ready to die,

and armed guards, armed teachers, or a darn seasoned military veteran aren't likely to be fast -- or accurate -- enough to help.

[Blue_true]

2. Plus.

Assault weapon versus a 9 mm, assault weapon wins unless the 9 mm holder get the drop on the assault weapon holder.

[Igel]

9. Why?

The claim is that this isn't a particularly accurate weapon.

Neither are handguns.

But both are semiautomatic. The only advantage would the number of rounds held by the AR's magazine, and I haven't seen any news on the mag capacity for what Cruz carried.

Better answer: Given the number of students, moving quickly through the crowd would be difficult. Shooting at the killer would be problematic because, again, there would be students behind him in all likelihood. Until he walked away, by which time the security folk would be coordinating with police to secure the building.

[Blue_true]

18. Wow.

Police officers do not carry sidearms that match the round count of a long rifle assault weapon. I am stunned to see a person make a claim of such a nature. Maybe a police officer has a long rifle weapon in his or her car, but getting to that weapon costs time.

[kwassa]

3. There is one officer in a school that is huge and has 3,000+ students.

The officer never encountered the shooter, and it is not surprising.

[oneshooter]

16. School area contains 45 acres of land. n/t

[Crabby Appleton]

17. Here is a photo of the school

the white 3 story building in the center left is where the shooting occurred, the brown roofed buildings behind are the main part of the school.

[pnwmom]

4. The student did all his killing in about 3 minutes. Wherever the armed cop was,

it was more than 3 minutes away.

[uponit7771]

5. JUST WOW !! That .. wow !!! 31 people shot in 3 minutes !?!?! Ban them, this is

... the evidence to ban them

No way I'm going to believe this guy was trained to shoot and hit 10 people per minute

[Pachamama]

6. +1000

I completely agree

[pnwmom]

7. Yup. Three minutes. More than a hundred bullets.

http://6abc.com/police-fla-school-gunman-had-extra-ammo-fired-for-3-minutes/3084114/

As the gunman moved through the school, he fired into five classrooms - four on the first floor and one on the second floor, Sheriff Scott Israel said.

The shooting lasted for three minutes. The assailant then went to the third floor and dropped his AR-15 rifle and the backpack and ran out of the building, attempting to blend in with fleeing students, Israel said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nikolas-cruz-florida-school-shooting-suspect-20180215-story.html

[forgotmylogin]

8. Tax bullets at $25 per round.

When massacres cost upwards of $2500 or more, you will see fewer of them.

[uponit7771]

10. THIS IS MADDENING !!! I"m thinking 30 - 45 mins to cause this much distruction ...

... I've never heard a timeline but hearing this ... this is maddening.

This guy never went to a shoot em up range he just grabbed a gun an got busy on a bunch of unarmed people.

Freakin ban them all

[EffieBlack]

11. But if the teachers and students were armed, they could have protected themselves

Right?

[BBG]

13. Um yeah, they could shoot the bullets headed their way, right?

Is that how it fucking works?

[sharedvalues]

14. Gun logic: you have a big gun that makes you FEEL strong

(to compensate for your insecurities and likely small p*n*s)

... and that's the extent of their logic. They don't actually think guns stop shootings, it's just compensation for their insecurities.

[EffieBlack]

15. I think so.

Half the fun would be trying to figure out which are the good guys with guns trying to protect their school and which ones are the homicidal maniacs trying to kill as many people as possible.

And when the cops get there, imagine all the laughs they'll all have trying to sort everyone out.

Good times.

[USALiberal]

19. +1000

[blueinredohio]

12. I live in a small community and we have had policemen in the high schools since the seventies

They also keep doors locked you have to be buzzed in and you are on camera