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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe have a spy in the White House.
It just sounds so incredible that we cannot wrap our minds around it. But all the facts are right there in front of us. He is working for Russia, not the United States.
There was a reason he was so secretive. There was a reason he lied with every breath. There was a reason he refused to criticize Vladimir Putin. It was because he was one of them.
Slowly, Americans will come to this realization. Most Republicans will never accept the reality that they voted for a Russian tool. For them, it is all "fake news", created by the "liberal media".
But, we have seen all we need to see. He is not on our side. He is a spy, working to enrich himself, like all of Putin's oligarchs.
It is incomprehensible that this could happen to America.
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Wounded Bear
(63,795 posts)I only hope we can get over this.
King_Klonopin
(1,359 posts)
olegramps
(8,200 posts)
Pachamama
(17,540 posts)Completely Agree - a traitor and lowest form of subhuman...
Quemado
(1,262 posts)nt
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Putin has no nasty nickname from Donald
Bucky
(55,334 posts)best comeback ever 
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)The failed businessman and multiply bankrupt clown depends on money being laundered into his businesses by Russians. Mueller knows it, or suspects it.
Recommended.
cilla4progress
(26,487 posts)CRIMINAL!!
dewsgirl
(14,964 posts)bluestarone
(21,090 posts)
What about Kushner? I'd bet a good amount of money that he is as well.
Chakaconcarne
(2,770 posts)Needs to pay off that debt before he starts losing limbs to the Russian mob.
onecent
(6,096 posts)global1
(26,361 posts)There needs to be a better job done in vetting candidates want to run for the presidency. I believe that the Repugs shirked their duty and just let everyone and his brother get involved in the primaries. They didn't put down any stipulations as to what should qualify a person to run in the primaries. They didn't require that all share their taxes and tax situation. They didn't require that all that would like to run as the Party's candidate in the primaries subject themselves to a medical evaluation - both physical and mental.
As a result - this pathological liar found his way to the top of the Party - without any scrutiny.
Just as people that work in the White House now need to undergo security clearances - so to should anyone that wishes to become president (either side) before they are allowed to run in the primary for president.
So - that is why I blame the Repugs for putting this Russian spy into office.
Either they knew in advance that he was a mole and were complicit or they are just careless and stupid.
At any rate - we are now stuck in this situation and look to Mueller to help dig us out.
kentuck
(115,068 posts)They did not care if he paid no taxes or if he refused to show his tax returns. They did not care if he had business interests all around the world, with countries that were not friendly to the United States. That was his business so they had no problems with any of it.
karynnj
(60,765 posts)blindsided in the primaries as the country as a whole was in the general election. It was VERY clear that the party establishment was for almost anybody else -- even Cruz. There was NEVER an election that I can remember that former Presidents would not say that they would vote for their party's nominee. Can you imagine Jimmy Carter saying that he could not in good conscience vote for Bill Clinton - even though Carter was not invited to the convention? Can you imagine after a contentious primary in 2008, Bill Clinton saying he could not support Obama? Both are unthinkable. It happened in 2016.
What I would blame is that they enabled the right wing echo chamber to not just exist, but to thrive and grow. It was that dark, angry side that has grown over time - as talk radio stations with right wing hosts multiplied - all going after the same thing at the same time. That was easy as the dumbed down talking points were fed to them from the think tanks. Then they heard the same thing on Fox. That was where they were in the 1990s and 2000s. By 2016, that echo chamber used both the Russian trolls we now know about AND the base the right wing echo chamber already had to further communicate these talking points to each other (more reinforcement) and to less partisan people via their social networks.
We can - and should blame the Russians, but we should also note that when they tried the same in France -- they completely failed. One reason given was that France had no existing RW echo chamber. In France, they had a huge leak that they wanted to use against Macron for LePen. Without that solid echo chamber, social media - including many American right wingers were unable to accomplish anything -- other than possibly increase the size of Macron's victory.
The Republican party used the right wing to help them in elections and to radicalize their own elected people by making any that were remotely moderate fear primary challenges. They created a monster that is now working hard to destroy anything we thought our country stands for. They may have thought they could control their hate fueled (often racist) right wing, but it may be the first thing they destroyed is the republican party. There were so many elected Republicans from the 1960s - 1980s who would be stunned and horrified with the current Republican party.
global1
(26,361 posts)that Trump would have never been included in that clown car. He would have been disqualified. The fact that they just let anyone join the clown car - they have to be held accountable for what we have in the White House today. If Trump was never allowed in the primaries - Trump would not be in the WH today.
karynnj
(60,765 posts)very minimal requirements of being American citizens over the age of 35. For instance, George Wallace ran for the Democratic nomination for President against LBJ in 1964. It was the VOTERS who rejected him. (In later years he ran as an Independent.)
global1
(26,361 posts)maybe Parties (Dem & Repug) should put some rules down as to who might be allowed in the primaries going forward. Think about it - Trump - if the Repugs are truly blameless and were blindsided by Trump and his Russian ties - are tarnished by Trump. Do you think either Party wants to be tarnished by a candidate that is fraught with problems that they didn't try to prevent?
What's the old saying - Fool me once .....
I'm just saying - we need to put more teeth in the process to prevent future Trump's from rising to prominence with the help of some foreign power.
If we don't do something to prevent a Trump in the future then we deserve a Trump.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)And he was the perfect choice, "a monkey who can use a pen", the perfect decoy for everything they are doing behind the scenes.
Anyone who thinks the GOP is ashamed to have the man-child in the presidency is not paying attention. The GOP was and continues to be complicit, they see him as their big chance to dismantle all social services and move that money in their direction, he is their boy, and don't doubt it for a second.
tclambert
(11,187 posts)If you have lots of money or can get it from rich donors, then let's do some campaigning!
global1
(26,361 posts)consequences of losing their power in Nov and perhaps never recovering as a formidable Party going forward.
renate
(13,776 posts)The Russians wouldn't have been able to influence the election if it weren't for the decades of talk radio and Fox News that softened their listeners' brains and rendered millions of people gullible and credulous. Right-wing media propped up the GOP and nobody in the GOP ever called them on their lies and exaggerations, for obvious reasons, and now here we are, with a huge chunk of the population utterly convinced that everything they don't want to hear is fake news.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It's been plain to see for months now. Trump refusing to impose sanctions against them after the congress mandated it and he has never spoken a harsh word against Putin etc.
Vladimir Putin is calling the shots in the USA at this time. He is the defacto ruler of America IMO until his puppet is impeached.
The entire republican party, the religious right and the right wing propaganda machine are willing participants in the Russian take down of the USA as well.
How we ever move forward as a country with theses millions of traitors in our midst I do not know.
Blue_Adept
(6,498 posts)I hate to devalue the actual work and worth of legitimate spies.
King_Klonopin
(1,359 posts)I don't think he possesses enough ignoble gravitas to be a spy in the classic sense of the word.
I think he is a shameless WHORE who will do anything for attention, power and money -- including
selling out the entire nation -- regardless of from where or from whom the money is coming.
njhoneybadger
(3,911 posts)It's strange that Fox News and Putin have the same objective to divide Americans
UCmeNdc
(9,654 posts)As the mole, Trump followed his spymaster's instruction and put a spy network into place. Look at the weak security background of so many Trump administration personnel. This observation includes Trump's pick for the Secretary of State.
dlk
(13,100 posts)She was right.
triron
(22,240 posts)
gvstn
(2,805 posts)But we go ahead and pretend we have to work out the details. You are right history will not be kind to this whole en devour. It should have been dealt with in the first 2 months not what is looking like 2 years.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)US, and those sycophants cozying up to Trump, could well find themselves kicked to the side as/if this continues. Plus, he's a sociopath. And, I seriously wonder how many in Trump's circle are also Russian agents. I think this country is in far more trouble than the general public realizes or takes the time to pay attention to. Millions in America are just trying to survive day to day, so watching/following Trump's antics might not be a top priority for them.
magicarpet
(18,456 posts).... keep the population living pay check to pay check - and hand to mouth - just happy being able to just scrape by - hook or by crook - so elated to make ends meet for one more month.
Minimal wages, minimal raises, minimal health insurance if so lucky, minimal pensions or no retirement, rising housing costs, food costs, general living expenses -
people caught on these thread mills to barely survive don't partake in a lot of government protests.
That is just where they want us - by design, social engineering, a preconceived notion/plan by TPTB.
Resistance.... what resistance.... people are so preoccupied just getting by - they have no time - no energy - no inclination to even try to resist. Besides if they could - they can't afford to risk it all by being tagged as someone who rocks the boat - a non team player.
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So right...
You said at the post just above:
"Millions in America are just trying to survive day to day, so watching/following Trump's antics might not be a top priority for them."
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)propaganda. I used to know a guy that claimed he got all the real information and facts from Fox News. You know, sometimes it just isn't worth talking to some individuals. And there are millions like that. I don't know what the future holds, but I have trouble being overly optimistic. If the midterms show continued ignorance, then I fear we're headed for a bad place in the future, and a dystopian society for many.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,575 posts)That is TREASON by every definition of the word in Trump's actions and words.
Robert Mueller is listening.
debsy
(749 posts)Much of the evidence has been there for many years. Unfortunately it was ignored until it was too late to do anything about it. Now we have Putin's bitch and all his greedy, kleptocratic scumbags occupying the White House. Who knows what they will do to maintain their position of power.
FreepFryer
(7,086 posts)Demsrule86
(71,467 posts)The GOP needs to cease to exist as they are complicit in this horror.
Enoki33
(1,605 posts)of them and ther enablers that CI has to roll up and jail.
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Not to me. The goops, I believe, have been working towards something like this for at least 30 years
FuzzyRabbit
(2,199 posts)
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)
FakeNoose
(40,060 posts)...as we saw in the 2016 election. "Donald Trump is good for business."
The news media put all sense of fairness and integrity aside and went for the almighty advertising dollars. I include Facebook and all the social media platforms that accepted the fake news ads placed and paid for by Russians and other outsiders. The cost of advertising in the US has corrupted everyone involved with the process. Political parties, candidates (even the independent candidates), lobbies, corporations, and the media are all in the process of buying (and selling) votes.
They've been corrupted by the Citizens United ruling by the SCOTUS in 2010. Nothing can be fixed in our country until Citizens United gets struck down.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I agree.
The media giants need to be broken up and facebook/Twitter need regulation.
If they refuse they should be shut down.
UCmeNdc
(9,654 posts)Trump acts like he is a Russian mole controlled by his spymaster Putin.
catbyte
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liberalla
(10,788 posts)I want to use it... may I?
TIA 
catbyte
(38,605 posts) Chakaconcarne
(2,770 posts)Kushner.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/374356-kushner-requests-more-intel-info-than-almost-all-white-house-staff
Why? What the hell does he need it for?
extvbroadcaster
(343 posts)I don't think Trump is a spy in the traditional sense. Putin has something on him, probably Russian banks and money laundering. Something he knows he could go to jail for, or lose his money and company. Trump really does not care about America, or anything beyond himself. He would sell out the country without a second thought. So Putin is pulling the strings, Trump goes along and meanwhile plays golf and screws off like he always has. The Presidential run was a branding con, but now that Putin put him in the White House he has to play ball. What a mess.
UCmeNdc
(9,654 posts)controls and manipulates his network's human assets. Donald Trump is a manipulated asset of Putin.
kentuck
(115,068 posts)One of the first rules of the Russians is: Lie about everything and never admit anything.
flamingdem
(40,783 posts)He's able to lie rather well so I don't understand why he doesn't placate people with pretending to be mad at Russia. Surely Vlad would understand?
Ligyron
(8,004 posts)There's video.
SunSeeker
(57,468 posts)ffr
(23,322 posts)Greed. Lust. Envy. Wrath.
jrthin
(5,215 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)treat it otherwise. They refuse to call him out.
malthaussen
(18,376 posts)
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)
MFM008
(20,042 posts)An episode of the Outer limits.
A presidential candidate is killed by an Asian (China) country and replaced buy an operative whose face can be changed with an injection to look just like the president of the United States . Substitute Russia for China.
Mountain Mule
(1,174 posts)The Traitor in Chief obviously has financial ties with Putin and the Russian oligarchs that he is terrified will be discovered. Seems that the repugs in Congress may have similar problems. Money and power over Country.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)tclambert
(11,187 posts)Putin may regret buying Trump. He's increasing anti-Russian feelings day by day. Well, Republican politicians have mostly kept quiet on the subject. Democrats and the American people have grown more hostile to Putin, though.
Putin can't trust information from Trump. He gets most everything wrong, or outright lies about it. And Trump will be impeached and sent to prison. Before that happens, Trump may turn against Putin and try to blame everything on him, not realizing that he just confessed.
UCmeNdc
(9,654 posts)No sanctions
The Velveteen Ocelot
(128,905 posts)Spies are undercover, careful and smart. Trump is none of those things. But he is a Russian asset, probably because, on account of his dodgy financial arrangements with the oligarchs, Putin has him by the short 'n' curlies.
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kentuck
(115,068 posts)Do you think those indictments of 13 Russians fraudulently attacking our election process is nothing? Do you think the guilty pleas from Manafort, Gates, Papadopoulos, and Flynn are nothing? And he's just getting started?
If you are assuming that Trump is not involved, why would you or anyone assume such an idea after what has been uncovered and is already known??
tblue37
(68,118 posts)cooperating, though.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)the next morning, there is already so much proven information about collusion, conspiracy and treason that were it to be about a Democrat they would have been impeached months ago.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)Mueller.
kentuck
(115,068 posts) Bucky
(55,334 posts)Trump is actually what in spywork is known as an asset.
Rhymes with asshat.
kentuck
(115,068 posts)"Asset" or "tool" may be a more accurate description. Either way, they have sold out our country.
Fla Dem
(27,407 posts)and corporate big wigs to use as blackmail when he needed it. I don't think Trump is the only one. Putin's been collecting op research for a long time. He's essentially been in office for 18 years.
onecent
(6,096 posts)It's Dotard????
Botany
(76,295 posts)Russia is way deep into the Republican party.
Before Trump formally announced Pence as his vice presidential candidate, it was Manafort who made sure it happened, The New York Times reported last year.
Trump had hesitated to settle on Pence, who was governor of Indiana. Trump was fielding last-ditch appeals from New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and publicly said he had not made a “final, final decision” until advisers like Manafort reminded him of the importance of uniting the GOP around conservative Christian values.
CBS News reported that Pence was Manafort's "first choice" and that Manafort even lied about mechanical problems on Trump's plane to make the soon-to-be GOP nominee stay an extra day in Indiana to get to know Pence. In a phone call, Manafort assured Trump that Pence was the right choice and made a case that won over the real estate tycoon.
Manafort would later downplay his behind-the-scenes choice, telling the Times that Trump never seriously doubted Pence.
3catwoman3
(28,522 posts)Cadet Bone Spurs is the pRezident.
Shortly after the stolen election, I started using that term, but it didn't catch on. I think it is time to try again.
pRezident
jimlup
(8,009 posts)He's a Russian agent but he isn't secret. He's totally in Putin's pocket and he is the fucking PROTUS.
Cha
(316,504 posts)"Instead of mobilizing forces to our nation’s aid, the president, like Benedict Arnold at West Point, has allowed our defenses to crumble."
snip//
” We cannot trust the president, not because of what he may or may not have done in secret in the past, but because of what he is clearly doing or, rather, not doing, right now: defending our country against foreign enemies."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=201803
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)
harun
(11,380 posts)Rich right wingers prefer oligarchical rule. It isn't a bug to them it is a feature. Democracy proved too much of a burden to them.
Skittles
(169,319 posts)there is no other reason why Trump trashes everyone but publicly kisses the ass of PUTIN, who is SHORT AND BALD
Progressive dog
(7,568 posts)AKA Putin's puppet
Vinca
(53,274 posts)Ilsa
(63,791 posts)joe_stampingbull
(165 posts)nt
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)
yuiyoshida
(44,934 posts)Shot themselves in the foot, not once but many times.
Toorich
(391 posts)has done us a great service. The Democrats are energized, those Kansas high school students are running for state office, and those articulate Florida kids are mobilizing like we haven't seen since the 60's.
We can thank the tangerine
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)My only consolation is that CIA is probably keeping tabs on this.
IAMSPARTICUS
(17 posts)When he was "elected" I predicted that it would lead to the end of democracy...the end of the United States. The day is coming when he is declared a traitor. When that happens all of his gun owning fringe lunatic followers will make themselves heard by trying to keep him in power. The question will then be, what will the military do? I also would not be surprised if he dropped a nuclear weapon on someone to try to galvanize power. Think I'm crazy? As Pete Seeger once sang, who side are you on boy whose side are you on?
This is no joke. Agent Trump will keep no secret from Russia, as we have already witnessed. How did we allow this to happen?
tblue37
(68,118 posts)classified information request more classified information than anyone else? He even reads the PDBs, which the actual president doesn't bother to read.
Being deeply in debt is one of the major red flags that will block a security clearance, because that makes a person susceptible to being persuaded to sell secrets.
Drum
(10,562 posts)
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)
Motley13
(3,867 posts)Just substitute Russia for the United States for the maggot
The Oath of Office:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution requires that before presidents can assume their duties they must take the oath of office. The completion of this thirty-five-word oath ends one president's term and begins the next.