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babylonsister

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Fri Feb 23, 2018, 04:37 PM Feb 2018

Guess Who Thinks Arming Teachers Is A Really, Really Bad Idea? Military Combat Veterans.


Guess Who Thinks Arming Teachers Is A Really, Really Bad Idea? Military Combat Veterans.

“How to stand your ground when an aggressor is trying to kill you — that’s not something that comes naturally to people.”
Posted on February 22, 2018, at 7:01 p.m.
Vera Bergengruen


Some of the loudest voices opposing President Donald Trump’s proposal to arm “highly trained” teachers to protect students belong to the group that knows best what it’s like to confront someone with a gun: military combat veterans.

In the week since 17 people were killed by a shooter at a Florida high school, combat veterans already had become increasingly vocal in opposition to the availability of assault weapons to civilians, writing op-eds, viral blog posts, and Twitter threads.

But the proposal to train and arm teachers, which was first floated by conservative commentators on Fox News and pushed on Thursday by the president and officials of the National Rifle Association, put many of them over the edge.

“There is a gulf between being taught how to handle a weapon, and learning to fight. Those are two distinct things,” Brandon Friedman, a former Army captain who was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan and later served in the Obama administration, told BuzzFeed News. “And learning how to fight, how to stand your ground when an aggressor is trying to kill you, that’s not something that comes naturally to people.”


Learning how to fight takes training — military training.

“So in order to teach, now you have to be a soldier? That’s insane,” he said.

Many veterans are chafing at hearing such proposals from people like NRA Vice President Wayne LaPierre who have never served in combat, he said.

“They have this Hollywood view of what a gunfight is like,” Friedman said. “Veterans know first hand (that) until you’ve been shot at, and seen how people react in these situations, you can’t wrap your mind around it.”


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Guess Who Thinks Arming Teachers Is A Really, Really Bad Idea? Military Combat Veterans. (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2018 OP
And look at who thinks it is a good idea. BarbaRosa Feb 2018 #1
Yes, he has repeated his brilliant idea three times now: at the listening session, the CPAC Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #3
I agree with denouncing arming teachers. But not sure x-military personnel are the answer either. Hoyt Feb 2018 #2
You are so right. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #4
Had this conversation with a Part Time School Bus Driver HockeyMom Feb 2018 #5

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
3. Yes, he has repeated his brilliant idea three times now: at the listening session, the CPAC
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 04:53 PM
Feb 2018

festivities, and just now at his press conference.

It’s like, hey, he worked overtime memorizing this drivel, and will not let all that brain-work go anytime soon.

Yah, Rave on indeed

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. I agree with denouncing arming teachers. But not sure x-military personnel are the answer either.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 04:44 PM
Feb 2018

They are mostly trained in laying down a barrage in conjunction with others, and collateral damage is just accepted. That is not really what's needed in a school shooting situation.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. You are so right.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 05:24 PM
Feb 2018

What could go wrong? Notice what is happening to these SWAT teams,friggen wild west shot outs.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
5. Had this conversation with a Part Time School Bus Driver
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 05:41 PM
Feb 2018

at a VFW Post. He is a combat Vet with a Purple Heart, and Retired Philly LEO. Should Teachers be Armed? Hell, No. Would you volunteer at school or carry on your bus? No, way. I am done with all this. My job now is to just drive, not shoot.

As far as Trump, I agree with Vet Tammy Duckworth. "Cadet Bone Spurs".

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