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Boom! Mueller not letting up: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Mar 2018 OP
I think we all know the answer to that question NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #1
The answer is... lame54 Mar 2018 #9
Who are these people? gibraltar72 Mar 2018 #26
But Omarosas my love child daughter. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2018 #39
He has business ties, and he's an adviser to the President. forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #20
If America survives Team Trump NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #22
Also nepotism, I hope n/t radical noodle Mar 2018 #25
To think they hounded Jimmy Carter over his family peanut farm! Hounded him likes criminal! bettyellen Mar 2018 #29
and, remember Billy Beer NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #30
Loose cannon black sheep. Yep. bettyellen Mar 2018 #33
In the Trump White House NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #34
And his sister, the faith healer radical noodle Mar 2018 #38
At least Billy wasn't part of the WH staff! NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #35
No, they won't. Rich people are not going to sell their stuff. They won't run, if they have to. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #41
Finally, maybe between Mueller and New York AG these grifters will get what they deserve. redstatebluegirl Mar 2018 #2
It may take some more time, but you are totally correct..they will get "what they deserve" Stuart G Mar 2018 #8
You can fool 30% of the people all the time... dchill Mar 2018 #13
Trump type of people, Corgigal Mar 2018 #28
Mueller's book would be an instant best-seller Skittles Mar 2018 #31
'signs point to yes' -eom poboy2 Mar 2018 #3
We need a sticky post that says marylandblue Mar 2018 #4
Boom indeed! herding cats Mar 2018 #5
uh, derp! pnwest Mar 2018 #6
So should we start a pool as to when we think he's going to get someone else to Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #7
SPOILER: Maven Mar 2018 #10
For the lawyers out there, armchair and otherwise Mr. Ected Mar 2018 #11
Influence peddling and bribery plus Kushner's repeated failures to disclose conflicts of interests wishstar Mar 2018 #18
The mere fact he foolishly attempted to hide foreign contact marylandblue Mar 2018 #21
+1, and since he did it on his F86 that would be illegal. People have gone to jail for less IINM uponit7771 Mar 2018 #27
Mueller would be rather remiss in his duties if he didn't bitterross Mar 2018 #12
I don't think Mueller will ever pin anything on Trump... dchill Mar 2018 #14
Do the words "unindicted co-conspirator" ring a bell? They should... Hekate Mar 2018 #23
Actually, I DO expect Trump to be indicted. dchill Mar 2018 #37
Ah. I had no idea what JK was, but now I do Hekate Mar 2018 #40
No wonder Rosenstein informed WH that Kushner wouldn't get security clearance anytime soon wishstar Mar 2018 #15
Is this being leaked for Trump and/or the GOP to do the right thing for the country? Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #16
Remember. Trump was not elected by the people, that is by the popular vote. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #32
..and neither is New York Chakaconcarne Mar 2018 #17
He cannot escape the NY AG. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #19
Remember: Mueller already knows the answer Blue Owl Mar 2018 #24
kick for visibility triron Mar 2018 #36
K&R onecent Mar 2018 #42

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
1. I think we all know the answer to that question
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:12 PM
Mar 2018

is "yes" - Mueller is probably just looking for confirmation of evidence.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
20. He has business ties, and he's an adviser to the President.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:07 PM
Mar 2018

So it's kind of a "duh" thing. This is why politicians need to divest from their companies which can benefit from their legislation. If you don't do that, you're a lobbyist.

They'd better not try to pull "Oh, he doesn't get paid so he's not actually on staff..."

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. If America survives Team Trump
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:15 PM
Mar 2018

I suspect we'll get actual laws that require divestment of any investments and holdings instead of things that were expected of presidents, as well as requirements about tax return release and emoluments.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
29. To think they hounded Jimmy Carter over his family peanut farm! Hounded him likes criminal!
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:22 PM
Mar 2018

And it happened becasue the media elevated their voices.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
34. In the Trump White House
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 06:30 PM
Mar 2018

somebody like Billy Beer would be a senior adviser to Trump and he'd be one of the more qualified ones.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
35. At least Billy wasn't part of the WH staff!
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 06:38 PM
Mar 2018

Yeah, he had a drinking problem and he did that stupid Billy Beer thing. Still, he wasn't on the public payroll.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
41. No, they won't. Rich people are not going to sell their stuff. They won't run, if they have to.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:13 AM
Mar 2018

Congress worships "stuff."

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
8. It may take some more time, but you are totally correct..they will get "what they deserve"
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:21 PM
Mar 2018

I am willing to wait awhile. When Mueller gets the case "iron clad positive" he will indict. That is.. with the proof that he has, he will be sure of a guilty verdict. But this fellow will get them all...Why do I say that?

Mueller is better at ..getting them all than the grafter sare at grifting. You see, in my opinion, none of that crowd really know what they are up against. Two former leaders of the FBI (yes, I think Comey is trying to help in an informal way) and some of the best prosecutors in the country.

Yes, in the long run, the grifters haven't got a chance. Not a snowball's chance in the Sahara Desert.. When they go down, it will be hard. And they don't even know it is coming. Arrogance has its limitations as we all know.!!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
28. Trump type of people,
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:19 PM
Mar 2018

can't imagine working for service. They are so greed based, that they believe anyone working in government can't be that good, because if they were they would be making millions like the smartest, best people do. Trump thinking, of course.

They are in for a wake up call, they don't even know these people exist but in a movie.

I guess Trump had to run for President, because after he won this was all predictable.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. We need a sticky post that says
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:15 PM
Mar 2018

"Mueller investigating everything, planning to indict everyone." Save us lots of extra typing.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
11. For the lawyers out there, armchair and otherwise
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:34 PM
Mar 2018

Which laws would be broken if these allegations were to be proven?

The MAGAts will be asking that question soon, I can assure you.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
18. Influence peddling and bribery plus Kushner's repeated failures to disclose conflicts of interests
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:01 PM
Mar 2018

If Kushner was attempting to use his position for financial gain and failed to disclose his contacts or lied about his contacts, Mueller could charge him with engaging in conspiracy to defraud US.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
12. Mueller would be rather remiss in his duties if he didn't
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:35 PM
Mar 2018

It would be complete incompetence to not look into this. Mueller is not the incompetent one in this game.

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
23. Do the words "unindicted co-conspirator" ring a bell? They should...
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:18 PM
Mar 2018

For whatever is left of the dignity of the office, the Mad King might get off with resignation, while all those around him go to jail.

We'll see.

dchill

(38,489 posts)
37. Actually, I DO expect Trump to be indicted.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 08:06 PM
Mar 2018

On multiple counts. That's why the main body of my post is "JK."

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
40. Ah. I had no idea what JK was, but now I do
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 10:31 PM
Mar 2018

I devoutly hope both he and Pence get indicted for real.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
15. No wonder Rosenstein informed WH that Kushner wouldn't get security clearance anytime soon
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:42 PM
Mar 2018

But now we find out Kushner got half a billion in US bank loans after meetings in WH but that apparently was not enough to bail him out as he has been seeking deals from China, Turkey, OAE etc.

We already knew he had failed to disclose hundreds of millions from Deutsche Bank before being in WH with excuse that he didn't have a specified requirement to pay that money back to Deutsche Bank, so he had left it off his govt paperwork that asked about loans.

Freethinker65

(10,021 posts)
16. Is this being leaked for Trump and/or the GOP to do the right thing for the country?
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:50 PM
Mar 2018

The answers to the questions posted in the OP above have been known for a while. The question is how much damage has been done, and how to lessen any more damage from what might come in the future. The country's credibility has already been severely damaged. This effects us both in the world, but also at home.

Can people ever trust elections, our legislative process, or our supposed superior system of checks and balances again? Do the donors controlling the purse strings really give a damn about anyone but themselves? And what about the influence of foreign governments? It was way too easy to go from a president like Obama to one like Trump. What the hell happened to this country???

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
32. Remember. Trump was not elected by the people, that is by the popular vote.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:52 PM
Mar 2018

He was elected by the electoral college in which people from rural America are quite frankly over-represented.

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