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The health risk of bacon is largely to do with two food additives: potassium nitrate (also known as saltpetre) and sodium nitrite. It is these that give salamis, bacons and cooked hams their alluring pink colour. Saltpetre sometimes called sal prunella has been used in some recipes for salted meats since ancient times. As Jane Grigson explains in Charcuterie and French Pork Cookery, saltpetre was traditionally used when brining hams to give them an attractive rosy appearance when otherwise it would be a murky greyish brown.
In an ideal world, we would all be eating diets lower in meat, processed or otherwise, for the sake of sustainability and animal welfare as much as health. But in the world we actually live in, processed meats are still a normal, staple protein for millions of people who cant afford to swap a value pack of frying bacon for a few slivers of Prosciutto di Parma. Around half of all meat eaten in developed countries is now processed, according to researcher John Kearney, making it a far more universal habit than smoking.
The real victims in all this are not people like me who enjoy the occasional bacon-on-sourdough in a hipster cafe. The people who will be worst affected are those many on low incomes for whom the cancer risk from bacon is compounded by other risk factors such as eating low-fibre diets with few vegetables or wholegrains. In his book, Coudray points out that in coming years, millions more poor consumers will be affected by preventable colon cancer, as westernised processed meats conquer the developing world.
A long read - basically the author accuses the processed meat industry hiding the dangers of cancer-causing chemicals much akin to the cigarette industry concealing the dangers of smoking.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/01/bacon-cancer-processed-meats-nitrates-nitrites-sausages
Three smells linger in the memory forever - the wonderful talc smell of a baby, the smell of leather seats in a brand-new car, and morning bacon sizzling in a cast-iron pan in the kitchen mingled with freshly brewed coffee.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Prosciutto and pancetta are typically made without nitrates or nitrites. Ground and dried or smoked sausages or lunch meat are a different matter.
They make nitrate free hot dogs, but they are loaded with celery powder which has nitrate
packman
(16,296 posts)Prosciutto and pancetta -
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I make about 50 lbs of it every year
Farmer-Rick
(10,219 posts)To tell you the truth they tasted the same.
I will not reduce the amount of meat I eat. But then I raise my own on carefully manage pastures. The trick is to move them from place to place before they eat the pasture down.
CanonRay
(14,123 posts)womanofthehills
(8,795 posts)Uncured bacon and eggs (from my own chickens) along with fresh organic blueberries or oranges, I believe is a healthy breakfast. Much better than oats and grains - usually sprayed with Roundup three days before harvest.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)There is more nitrate in a bunch of celery than there is in an entire salami.
Also, you NEED nitrate in these foods as they break down into nitrites that inhibit botulism toxin.
Thyla
(791 posts)I'm not scared.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)genxlib
(5,546 posts)Although I would be lying if I said I was surprised.
I am hoping this is one of those volume things where they fed rats the equivalent of 40 pounds of bacon a day. Maybe it is still safe to eat a few slices a week.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)FSogol
(45,562 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)FSogol
(45,562 posts)ananda
(28,888 posts)It's good too.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)nitrates give me migraines.
and that type isn't hard to find.
And it tastes no different than with nitrates.
and here's more information regarding the nitrates in celery power.
https://firsthandfoods.com/2017/12/06/nitrate-free-bacon-myth-or-reality/
maxsolomon
(33,432 posts)no one here gets out alive.
womanofthehills
(8,795 posts)the brown spots are a fungus called pink rot.
Then you have peanut butter loaded with aflatoxins - peanuts I never eat.
tblue37
(65,502 posts)PJMcK
(22,059 posts)As my doctor told me, "If it tastes good, you can't have it."
It's probably Obama's fault. (wink)
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,348 posts)Nailzberg
(4,610 posts)The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Organic everything, 100% vegetarian, never bought food with additives.
Died last September at the age of 65 from ovarian cancer.
Memento mori. Fuck it, life is too short, I'm going to enjoy whatever time I have here. I eat bacon.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)just turned 40, was an avid runner, vegetarian, never overweight,and she is now fighting to live for her husband and baby. Life is way too short. I think everything is ok in moderation.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)I has all the triggers and is amazingly good. It took a long time to not want it even when my husband cooks it.
DFW
(54,453 posts)Probably due to the fact that I never really liked bacon.
Actually, since I was diagnosed with high uric acid 30 years ago, I cut down on most red meat anyway. I'll have the occasional slice of Bündnerfleisch, but that's about it.
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)Awful stuff. The reason I became a vegetarian.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)tblue37
(65,502 posts)brewing, so to me coffee is always a bit of a disappointment to drink.
samnsara
(17,651 posts)... i don't smoke so I get one vice (ok, two)
Wolf Frankula
(3,602 posts)If you breathe oxygen, you get cancer.
Wolf
lunasun
(21,646 posts)of the bunches wrapped were burnt at the top making it crispy. But that was the only meat on the dish of food . Extra thick cut from a local
yum
oh well...
mythology
(9,527 posts)Eating 2 slices of bacon a day increases your odds of colorectal cancer from about 5% to about 6%. Yes it's an increase, but to my mind not a significant one. That said there are plenty of more significant reasons to not eat a lot of bacon like heart disease. But as with most "bad" things, if you eat it moderately, it won't significantly impact your health provided you have a balanced diet, exercise and don't have some other underlying condition.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)damn good tempeh bacon out there now, thank goodness.
janterry
(4,429 posts)I did it many years ago and don't miss it. Lately, I've been toying with veganism. I assume that's a process, too - so I'm taking my time looking at great vegan recipes - so that it is also fun .
ollie10
(2,091 posts)The elephant in the room .... way too many fat grams.
Another problem is sodium content.
I love bacon. However, it is a rare occassion that I eat it.
If you want to eat healthy....and that is a big if....you need lots of fruits and vegetables, whole grains.....cut down on red meats.....don't need to be vegetarian, but don't over-do meat....and as for stuff like bacon, sausage, salami, and other chemical factories masquerading as food......you gotta be kidding!!!
LAS14
(13,789 posts)...us to nitrates and nitrites in the 70's.